Or is it from the confidence you can gain from being complemented on your looks? Does it all come down to how you present yourself to others?
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Probably the confidence. Not necessarily from compliments though. Big smiles and a clear, expressive voice definitely go a long way to making you seem self assured (in a good way).
Complimented by your looks meaning how physically attractive you are? Or meaning how you are dressed or groomed? Or both? I would say it depends on those factors often and there are a variety of things that could influence any given success...hard to say. What do you define as sucess? Dont sacrifice yourself for sucess, be yourself and follow your passions. Real people will see through the other garbage.
Take Pablo Escobar for example, he ugly as hell but his ruthlessness and determination to become kingpin of the drug world made him the most successful druglord ever. His net worth was well over 30 billion before he died and he was so powerful that he controlled the entire columbia region. No one had the balls to stand up to him.
that depend om the kind of success you mean
but simply it do not help
I am unable to write them
can't transulate them good to english
but just some exambles
Ineistien was a bad looker
Napilion also was
bill gets hax a decent look , but it's not that good
to explain myself , goodlooking people are usualy emotional and blinds with the environment around them
that don't usaully make good results
Actually, thinking about it now... The prettiest girl at my previous workplace was hated by the other girls. I don't know if it was simply jealousy or the fact that she'd always relied on her looks and her low-cut tops to get her through, without developing any charm for other women. She wasn't particularly good at her job, but she landed a cushy local government position regardless.
If there's any moral to the story, I suppose it's that looks and charm can be a viable alternative to job competence in some fields, at least to a point.
It can be argued that looks are just as viable as a resource to getting ahead just as much as intelligence or job competence and skills. Now if you're a triple threat and have all that skills then the only way you're not getting that job or promotion is through your own mess up. One must use the assets provided to get ahead in life. If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job.Actually, thinking about it now... The prettiest girl at my previous workplace was hated by the other girls. I don't know if it was simply jealousy or the fact that she'd always relied on her looks and her low-cut tops to get her through, without developing any charm for other women. She wasn't particularly good at her job, but she landed a cushy local government position regardless.
If there's any moral to the story, I suppose it's that looks and charm can be a viable alternative to job competence in some fields, at least to a point.
jimmyjammer69
I think it takes a certain kind of person to hire and promote 'good looking' people only. I don't necessarily think it's right and I would never give someone's career a boost based on their looks alone. When I left my old job, they had numerous people interview to replace me. I got to see every applicant that came in, as I was the receptionist and manned the front door. My boss definitely hired the prettiest woman they interviewed. Young, very pretty face, thin, lots of makeup, and plenty of cleavage. I'm sure my boss (male) hired her strictly for her professional qualifications. :roll: Sorry if that sounds sexist but A. I think he was genuinely pleased to be able to hire someone so attractive- the other girls in the office and I didn't look like that, and B. some men respond to attractive women in certain ways and that's just how it is. Unfortunately.
P.S. The new girl lasted 3 months at the job.
Looks is a start, and a company wants to represent itself by employees that look cool, not always but most times. Like i said its a start, then you have to go beyond your looks and proveyourself to be smart, confident, funny, outgoing, and a great teamplayer. Never lazy. If you have these things on top of looks, then your going places !
Self confidence is important and I guess looking good helps. Although Donald Trump looks ugly, but he's successful.AcronymnsFTW
I think guys have an easier time in this department than women, personally. Guys are allowed to be unattractive and still do as well as they wish to; it's harder for women, and I think unattractive women are at an even greater disadvantage. :(
[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]It can be argued that looks are just as viable as a resource to getting ahead just as much as intelligence or job competence and skills. Now if you're a triple threat and have all that skills then the only way you're not getting that job or promotion is through your own mess up. One must use the assets provided to get ahead in life. If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job. /thread. If only everyone had the common sense to think this way. Looks are as valid as anything else, its part of our instinct... and shouldnt be treated as "shallow" or "vain"Actually, thinking about it now... The prettiest girl at my previous workplace was hated by the other girls. I don't know if it was simply jealousy or the fact that she'd always relied on her looks and her low-cut tops to get her through, without developing any charm for other women. She wasn't particularly good at her job, but she landed a cushy local government position regardless.
If there's any moral to the story, I suppose it's that looks and charm can be a viable alternative to job competence in some fields, at least to a point.
Sajedene
If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job.Sajedene
I just want to make sure I understand this bit of what you're saying. It's okay to use your looks to open doors for yourself, but if someone actually responds to you using your looks and hires/promotes you, they are to be "blamed" for doing so? I believe it is different than the person using their intelligence to get a job because unless you're working in a specific field where your body/appearance ARE the job, neither of those have any merit on your ability to perform the job. Their intelligence and educational background do. If that makes sense.
[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]It can be argued that looks are just as viable as a resource to getting ahead just as much as intelligence or job competence and skills. Now if you're a triple threat and have all that skills then the only way you're not getting that job or promotion is through your own mess up. One must use the assets provided to get ahead in life. If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job. looks are not productive, intelligence is. That's the difference.Actually, thinking about it now... The prettiest girl at my previous workplace was hated by the other girls. I don't know if it was simply jealousy or the fact that she'd always relied on her looks and her low-cut tops to get her through, without developing any charm for other women. She wasn't particularly good at her job, but she landed a cushy local government position regardless.
If there's any moral to the story, I suppose it's that looks and charm can be a viable alternative to job competence in some fields, at least to a point.
Sajedene
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]It can be argued that looks are just as viable as a resource to getting ahead just as much as intelligence or job competence and skills. Now if you're a triple threat and have all that skills then the only way you're not getting that job or promotion is through your own mess up. One must use the assets provided to get ahead in life. If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job. looks are not productive, intelligence is. That's the difference. Depends on the intelligence required... it may not be required for the job...Actually, thinking about it now... The prettiest girl at my previous workplace was hated by the other girls. I don't know if it was simply jealousy or the fact that she'd always relied on her looks and her low-cut tops to get her through, without developing any charm for other women. She wasn't particularly good at her job, but she landed a cushy local government position regardless.
If there's any moral to the story, I suppose it's that looks and charm can be a viable alternative to job competence in some fields, at least to a point.
nintendo-4life
[QUOTE="Sajedene"]If you're not the smartest tool in the shed, but know you got the body to open doors for you... why should one fault you for using it? It's probably the smartest thing you can do for yourself. Blame it on the superiors if they use that as the determining factor. It is no different as the person next to you who is vying for the same job but is using their intelligence or educational background to get that position. Now once there, you're on your own to do a good job to keep that job.binpink
I just want to make sure I understand this bit of what you're saying. It's okay to use your looks to open doors for yourself, but if someone actually responds to you using your looks and hires/promotes you, they are to be "blamed" for doing so? I believe it is different than the person using their intelligence to get a job because unless you're working in a specific field where your body/appearance ARE the job, neither of those have any merit on your ability to perform the job. Their intelligence and educational background do. If that makes sense.
You use what you got. But if the person hiring you sees your resume and sees nothing of merit on paper but likes the way you look and hires you anyway... props to you for being able to use that asset to get that job. If anyone complains that you were hired for your looks... it isnt your fault but the fault of the person who hired you. No one puts a gun to anyones head when someone hires for looks over personality. I've seen plenty of people in the corporate setting who with all of their intelligence and intellectual background fail. Those are not the be all end all. When you get the job, it is up to you to learn and utilize the skills acquired for said job to get further. Social skills are just as important as the other skills when it comes to a career... but how does one hire for that? Social skills can be lacking in someone regardless of their superior IQ and various degrees. A person with good looks and impeccable people skills who doesn't have the educational strength of a Harvard graduate can still get far in life. A person who just has ONE strength to their merit, be it looks, intelligence, social adeptness will not go far.[QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]Self confidence is important and I guess looking good helps. Although Donald Trump looks ugly, but he's successful.binpink
I think guys have an easier time in this department than women, personally. Guys are allowed to be unattractive and still do as well as they wish to; it's harder for women, and I think unattractive women are at an even greater disadvantage. :(
I have to disagree here, there are no attractive or unattractive people on this planet, while it is true most people are conditioned to act in a certain way based on their ego, religion and cultural influence. How do you get out of it? is the key....being proud and still behave like a human being with a heart is a very difficult art to master....it affects both men and women, that's the point of life- it's a learning process. I think most women feel sorry for themselves, this self-criticism won't do them any good, guys take advantage of their weakness in most cases....anyway they should learn to stop it.
I think that applies more to women than it does to men, particularly when it comes to the entertainment industry.
Off of the top of your head, how many actresses or female musicians can you name that you would consider to be noticeably overweight? (That's more of a rhetorical question, though if someone really wants to answer it, then go for it. :P )
On the other hand, for what it's worth, most of the women I've known in managerial positions probably would be considered by most people to be less attractive than a significant portion of the women working under them. (Older people being more likely to be in a higher position in a company is probably a factor there.)
[QUOTE="binpink"]
[QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]Self confidence is important and I guess looking good helps. Although Donald Trump looks ugly, but he's successful.Blubadox
I think guys have an easier time in this department than women, personally. Guys are allowed to be unattractive and still do as well as they wish to; it's harder for women, and I think unattractive women are at an even greater disadvantage. :(
I have to disagree here, there are no attractive or unattractive people on this planet, while it is true most people are conditioned to act in a certain way based on their ego, religion and cultural influence. How do you get out of it? is the key....being proud and still behave like a human being with a heart is a very difficult art to master....it affects both men and women, that's the point of life- it's a learning process. I think most women feel sorry for themselves, this self-criticism won't do them any good, guys take advantage of their weakness in most cases....anyway they should learn to stop it.
Oookaaay..... it's nice you're so open minded about people and their possibilities, but I see plenty of women who get judged more harshly than men in various settings. I absolutely think it's unfair and should stop, but my point is that it exists. You might not see anyone as unattractive or attractive or whatever, but I do. And there are some other people who do as well. I don't think women's appearances being judged more harshly is due to women feeling sorry for themselves.
[QUOTE="Blubadox"]
[QUOTE="binpink"]
I think guys have an easier time in this department than women, personally. Guys are allowed to be unattractive and still do as well as they wish to; it's harder for women, and I think unattractive women are at an even greater disadvantage. :(
binpink
I have to disagree here, there are no attractive or unattractive people on this planet, while it is true most people are conditioned to act in a certain way based on their ego, religion and cultural influence. How do you get out of it? is the key....being proud and still behave like a human being with a heart is a very difficult art to master....it affects both men and women, that's the point of life- it's a learning process. I think most women feel sorry for themselves, this self-criticism won't do them any good, guys take advantage of their weakness in most cases....anyway they should learn to stop it.
Oookaaay..... it's nice you're so open minded about people and their possibilities, but I see plenty of women who get judged more harshly than men in various settings. I absolutely think it's unfair and should stop, but my point is that it exists. You might not see anyone as unattractive or attractive or whatever, but I do. And there are some other people who do as well. I don't think women's appearances being judged more harshly is due to women feeling sorry for themselves.
Yeah, you might be right....my opinions aren't conclusive, I'll get back to you when I learn more ;)
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