Debate: Is violence ever the answer?

Been wanting to make this thread for awhile so here goes:

Many times I have heard in this life "Violence is never the answer", So today I ask you OT what do you think about the quote. Do you really believethat this is true or on most occasions you can see violence being used to end the problem sooner?

Non-violence solutions can be seen in histroy. The most recent is the peaceful protest in Egypt which have proved to work. But in Libya it is completely opposite, we see people fighting and a war against their own people. Loyalists vs Seperatists, The military vs The people.

My opinion? I believe can be answered in my favorite quote "Violence is never the answer, but it is a solution"

So OT, I ask you: Is violence ever the answer?

YES! Examples include stoping the brutal regime in Libya

and WWII to stop the destruction of the Nazis and the Japanese.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. There are people who think that it is the appropriate answer when it isn't and vice-versa.

There's a quote in the office of one my college professors he put on the American flag:

"Other than Communism, Dictatorship, Monarchy, and Nazism...war has solved absolutely nothing!"

Sometimes, like stopping the Nazis in WW2, sometimes its the only way. It is a neccesary evil.

Not if there's an alternative, but sometimes, yes. Some people just don't react to anything other than having their head kicked in - not that I've ever been one to get through to people like that anyway...

I don't know. I guess it depends as much on the other guy as it does you.

Sure it is. Pacifism is an idealistic laughing stock. Even Gandhi admitted that at a certain point picking up arms and fighting is preferable to just laying down and getting slaughtered.

*punch*

What was that?

Sometimes. More oftne it is responding to other violence, but sometimes it is the only way to get things done on this sad little planet of ours...

I'm involved in a sort of debate. I will do no harm to them but I promise something will be cut up with a chainsaw.

Sometimes it can be and it is so very sweet.

Since the question is "Is violence EVER the answer?" having both "yes" and "sometimes" as options seems redundant. But yes, violence is sometimes the answer whether it's a good thing or not.

I don't believe I've ever run into a total pacifist on this forum. Violence seems to be a part of the natural world. Everything is predatory in some form or another.

Force and the threat of force create orderly society. People complain about the police acting improperly, but I think most of us like the idea of having someone to call if a crazy person breaks into our home (and some of us like the idea of being able to stop that crazy person ourselves). People like to complain about the military too, but I've only met one person here who said he doesn't care if the military were entirely disbanded.

Since the question is "Is violence EVER the answer?" having both "yes" and "sometimes" as options seems redundant.

Radiatedrich91

Heh, I thought the same thing, so I said "Yes."

Could I have options 4 AND 5? It could get rather awkward otherwise. Head_of_games

Violence is the answer when one or both parties cannot successfully communicate.brandontwb

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Violence is the answer when one or both parties cannot successfully communicate.quiglythegreat

Most people would be shocked to realize how many problems have been solved, very effectivley I might add, through violence...

Not every situation calls for it, but sometimes violence is the only answer... its in our nature, and as anaturally violent spieces, we respond to it...

If There's a downside to violence,I haven't found it.

In an utopian world... The answer is never... In this world... It is the answer almost every time...

Sometimes, yeah. Unfortunately.

YES! Examples include stoping the brutal regime in Libya

and WWII to stop the destruction of the Nazis and the Japanese.

Banjo_Kongfooie

exactly. sometimes it takes violence to stop people. if someone is breaking into my house, i'm not going to "ask them nicely" to stop.....

If it isn't it sure seems effective at times anyway.

I think that the mere existence of our fine country the United States is PROOF that sometimes violence is in fact the answer.

My opinion? I believe can be answered in my favorite quote "Violence is never the answer, but it is a solution"

So OT, I ask you: Is violence ever the answer?

MgamerBD

I could be wrong, but I think that my opinion is sort of just a variation of what you just said. I'd personally say, "Violence might not always be the best answer, but it's an answer."

Anyway, unless I misinterpreted what you were saying, I think that those are just two different ways of saying the same thing.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]

My opinion? I believe can be answered in my favorite quote "Violence is never the answer, but it is a solution"

So OT, I ask you: Is violence ever the answer?

I could be wrong, but I think that my opinion is sort of just a variation of what you just said. I'd personally say, "Violence might not always be the best answer, but it's an answer."

Anyway, unless I misinterpreted what you were saying, I think that those are just two different ways of saying the same thing.

Violence is normally the most efficient, quick and effective way to deal with a problem (where applicable). Though, sometimes its really not worth it.

Violence is normally the most efficient, quick and effective way to deal with a problem (where applicable). Though, sometimes its really not worth it.

Espada12

..What kind of problems are you referring to here? Violence usually just ends up causing more problems, in my opinion.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Violence is normally the most efficient, quick and effective way to deal with a problem (where applicable). Though, sometimes its really not worth it.

Joshywaa

..What kind of problems are you referring to here? Violence usually just ends up causing more problems, in my opinion.

Stop getting bullied? Plus the regular stuff like removing dictators and such.

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Violence is normally the most efficient, quick and effective way to deal with a problem (where applicable). Though, sometimes its really not worth it.

Espada12

..What kind of problems are you referring to here? Violence usually just ends up causing more problems, in my opinion.

Stop getting bullied? Plus the regular stuff like removing dictators and such.

That's the regular stuff, eh?:P

Well, if a bully is harassing/attacking someone, fighting back could potentially end the problem...but what if the bullydecides to hide outside their house with his big dumb bully friends and pummels the kid with a sack of valencia oranges because he decided to fight back? That's not solving anything.

...Not that that would ever happen, though.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

..What kind of problems are you referring to here? Violence usually just ends up causing more problems, in my opinion.

Stop getting bullied? Plus the regular stuff like removing dictators and such.

That's the regular stuff, eh?:P

Well, if a bully is harassing/attacking someone, fighting back could potentially end the problem...but what if the bullydecides to hide outside their house with his big dumb bully friends and pummels the kid with a sack of valencia oranges because he decided to fight back? That's not solving anything.

...Not that that would ever happen, though.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Stop getting bullied? Plus the regular stuff like removing dictators and such.

That's the regular stuff, eh?:P

Well, if a bully is harassing/attacking someone, fighting back could potentially end the problem...but what if the bullydecides to hide outside their house with his big dumb bully friends and pummels the kid with a sack of valencia oranges because he decided to fight back? That's not solving anything.

...Not that that would ever happen, though.