Death penalty for the 4 Indian rapists

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#1 Renevent42
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/13/world/asia/india-gang-rape-sentence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Sure most of you remember this story breaking...anyways the 4 men received the death penalty.  Personally I wouldn't normally agree with the death penalty for rape, but, in this case I think it's almost necessary.  India has a huge problem and maybe this will move to really bring some change.

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Such a shame.
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#3 deeliman
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I thought only terrorists got the death penalty there?

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#5 muffin200
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They got the deth penanlty for the rape and murder not just for rape.

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#6 Jag85
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I thought only terrorists got the death penalty there?

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Murderers also get the death penalty there. This is the first time rapists are getting the death penalty there, but only because the brutality of the attack directly led to the victim's death.

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According to reports the most violent one was the juvenile since he did things during the rape I won't repeat here that most likely lead to the victim's death. However, India law pretty much stated that he couldn't get more than three years behind bars because he was 17 at the time. What a difference a few months could make.
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#8 Dogswithguns
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Good.. hope this stops the raping going around in India for good, and around the world as well.
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#9 deeliman
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Good.. hope this stops the raping going around in India for good, and around the world as well.Dogswithguns
It probably won't.
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#10 TehFuneral
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Don't kill them.. castrate them!

More brutal and sends a better message.

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#11 sukraj
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They deserve everything they get.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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Won't deter anyone in the future.
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cut their balls off!

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#14 leviathan91
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Kill the rapists!

*opposes the death penalty in America*

Welcome to OT folks.

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Good.
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#16 comp_atkins
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it wasn't for rape. didn't the woman die?
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it wasn't for rape. didn't the woman die? comp_atkins

She was brutally raped and murdered.

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#18 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]it wasn't for rape. didn't the woman die? leviathan91

She was brutally raped and murdered.

To be clear she died two weeks later from complications...though that's still pretty much murder.
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They deserve it, poor girl :(

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#20 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]it wasn't for rape. didn't the woman die? Renevent42

She was brutally raped and murdered.

To be clear she died two weeks later from complications...though that's still pretty much murder.

yup.
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Good.. hope this stops the raping going around in India for good, and around the world as well.Dogswithguns
The only raping it'll stop is the potential raping these guys would be doing if they went free. The idea it'll somehow stop rape anywhere else is a pipe dream.

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#22 lamprey263
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I don't think it's the rape that got them the death penalty but the murder of the victim that went along with it.
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#23 Barbariser
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While I'm normally against the death penalty as well as the practice of wishing all sorts of horrible and cruel fates upon violent criminals, this conviction (especially that of the juvie) is a lesser punishment than what they deserve.

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#24 lamprey263
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India gets a lot of attention for rape, though on a per capita basis it's actually lower than other developed Western nations, it just seems bigger because of the large population, for instance in the United States, with 1/4 the population, we manage over 4 times the number of rapes per year. The UK with just 1/20th the population has like 3/4 the number of rapes that India has. South Africa on the other hand, with less than 1/20th the population, is like 16 times greater the number of rapes than India has each year. Yet it seems that India gets the stigma of rape, my guess is because of the foreign tourists that brought the issue to Western media attention. That's not to say it's not a problem, but with attention to the issue of rape around the world India gets a pretty bad rap. If you really want your hair blown back, read up on rape in South Africa,
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#25 Renevent42
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India gets a lot of attention for rape, though on a per capita basis it's actually lower than other developed Western nations, it just seems bigger because of the large population, for instance in the United States, with 1/4 the population, we manage over 4 times the number of rapes per year. The UK with just 1/20th the population has like 3/4 the number of rapes that India has. South Africa on the other hand, with less than 1/20th the population, is like 16 times greater the number of rapes than India has each year. Yet it seems that India gets the stigma of rape, my guess is because of the foreign tourists that brought the issue to Western media attention. That's not to say it's not a problem, but with attention to the issue of rape around the world India gets a pretty bad rap. If you really want your hair blown back, read up on rape in South Africa, lamprey263
I've read that it's more likely the rate is much higher, just under reported: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324324404579043623106927570.html
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I dont know if you should give the death penalty to make a statement. 

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#27 Renevent42
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I dont know if you should give the death penalty to make a statement. 

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Well the girl did die two weeks later from the trauma she underwent...so technically it's murder.
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#28 Bucked20
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Why are u telling us they're Indian
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]India gets a lot of attention for rape, though on a per capita basis it's actually lower than other developed Western nations, it just seems bigger because of the large population, for instance in the United States, with 1/4 the population, we manage over 4 times the number of rapes per year. The UK with just 1/20th the population has like 3/4 the number of rapes that India has. South Africa on the other hand, with less than 1/20th the population, is like 16 times greater the number of rapes than India has each year. Yet it seems that India gets the stigma of rape, my guess is because of the foreign tourists that brought the issue to Western media attention. That's not to say it's not a problem, but with attention to the issue of rape around the world India gets a pretty bad rap. If you really want your hair blown back, read up on rape in South Africa, Renevent42
I've read that it's more likely the rate is much higher, just under reported: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324324404579043623106927570.html

under reporting is a factor in every body I imagine, and of course local laws are also an issue, like India doesn't count spousal rape still, I suggest taking a look at South Africa's rape statistics, hard to imagine even India comes close to the problem they have there
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Why are u telling us they're IndianBucked20
Because they're in India? Makes sense to specify which country it's in if it's not in the US (where most of the board is from).
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#31 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]India gets a lot of attention for rape, though on a per capita basis it's actually lower than other developed Western nations, it just seems bigger because of the large population, for instance in the United States, with 1/4 the population, we manage over 4 times the number of rapes per year. The UK with just 1/20th the population has like 3/4 the number of rapes that India has. South Africa on the other hand, with less than 1/20th the population, is like 16 times greater the number of rapes than India has each year. Yet it seems that India gets the stigma of rape, my guess is because of the foreign tourists that brought the issue to Western media attention. That's not to say it's not a problem, but with attention to the issue of rape around the world India gets a pretty bad rap. If you really want your hair blown back, read up on rape in South Africa, lamprey263
I've read that it's more likely the rate is much higher, just under reported: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324324404579043623106927570.html

under reporting is a factor in every body I imagine, and of course local laws are also an issue, like India doesn't count spousal rape still, I suggest taking a look at South Africa's rape statistics, hard to imagine even India comes close to the problem they have there

I'm not really trying to say anything other than comparing statistics country vs country can be tricky...especially when factoring in (like you mention) differences in local laws. Anyways with regards to India I think a big part of why it's so publicized lately is India has a very male dominated society, and even without the actual rapes women are harassed on the streets. So with social media and all the coverage people want to change the perceptions of people in India, not just reduce rapes. It's kinda like this dirty secret about Indian society that didn't previously get a lot of attention finally coming to light.
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#32 Bucked20
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Why are u telling us they're IndianPannicAtack
Because they're in India? Makes sense to specify which country it's in if it's not in the US (where most of the board is from).

Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough
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#33 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]Why are u telling us they're IndianBucked20
Because they're in India? Makes sense to specify which country it's in if it's not in the US (where most of the board is from).

Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.
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#34 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Because they're in India? Makes sense to specify which country it's in if it's not in the US (where most of the board is from).

Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

He's a troll, don't bother responding to him.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Because they're in India? Makes sense to specify which country it's in if it's not in the US (where most of the board is from).

Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white

You're the one making it about race.
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#37 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white

jfc... does every thread have to turn into a debate?
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough Bucked20
It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

  Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white

Congratulations on becoming the most racist person on these forums.

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[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.Renevent42

  Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white

Congratulations on becoming the most racist person on these forums.

How exactly is his/her comment "racist"? 

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#40 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]  Its only important to yall when the offender isn't whiteJag85

Congratulations on becoming the most racist person on these forums.

How exactly is his/her comment "racist"? 

Don't be stupid. Let's start with the fact he's claiming a horrific crime is only important to people if offender isn't white...which shows that he literally views things in a racially polarize way. That statement also shows he is generalizing people (and be honest, he's generalizing white people).

I mean...this thread has absolutely nothing to do with white people at all yet he makes such a stupid comment? We all know what his intentions are.

But really it's more a reflection of a lot of of his other posts as well, which he has in the past literally said racist things about white people.

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#41 II_Seraphim_II
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Rapists and Child molesters are the worst types of filth on the planet. Im against the death penalty, but you wont see me out in the street protesting this....
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#42 GrayF0X786
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They deserve it, poor girl :(

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#43 Toph_Girl250
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Definitely agree that the juvenile among the gang rapists should be the most brutally punished, since he was the one that was the most unnecessarily brutal during the gang rape, and looks to be pretty much guaranteed that he was the cause of her death.
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doesn't seem fair to me if the death penalty is only due to the murder. everyone should be blamed as much as he deserves.

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#45 The_Power_of_X
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Don't kill them.. castrate them!

More brutal and sends a better message.

TehFuneral

I'm with you on that, castrate them with a spoon so that it takes time and he feels pain throughout the whole ordeal. Unfortunately some bleeding heart would demand they get "safely" castrated by a very expensive surgeon at the cost of the government. 

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#46 Jag85
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[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

Congratulations on becoming the most racist person on these forums.

Renevent42

How exactly is his/her comment "racist"? 

Don't be stupid. Let's start with the fact he's claiming a horrific crime is only important to people if offender isn't white...which shows that he literally views things in a racially polarize way. That statement also shows he is generalizing people (and be honest, he's generalizing white people).

I mean...this thread has absolutely nothing to do with white people at all yet he makes such a stupid comment? We all know what his intentions are.

But really it's more a reflection of a lot of of his other posts as well, which he has in the past literally said racist things about white people.

You seem to be confusing political incorrectness with "racism"... Unless you're referring to his overall post history, in which case I have no idea about his post history.

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#47 Sword-Demon
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Good. I don't see why people oppose the death penalty when people like them exist in this world.
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just send the to saudi arabia for good
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Just putting 4 rapists would've been good enough

It's part of the story and an important element to the overall story about rape and treatment of women in India (this story really was the catalyst of it all). You can thank me later for the education.

Its only important to yall when the offender isn't white

In this case, "Indian" refers to the nationality, not the race. If he has just said four rapists, it wouldn't be clear what case it was, and this one was pretty infamous. You really are a complete moron. Anyway, this case is a perfect illustration of why I support legalizing revenge.
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#50 k--m--k
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Isnt India getting a lot of raping incidents recently?