Conspiracy theories...

Topic partially inspired by Glenn Beck's conspiracy claims about the Boston bombings.

Anyway, are there any theories that you buy into? The Roswell incident is very peculiar.

Religion was invented as a means to power and control.

br0kenrabbit

Oh, I agree. Religion is man reaching up to God.

Christianity is God reaching down to man.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

 

Oh, I agree. 99% of Religion is man-made and pointless. I believe in a Person that caused the one true religion.

br0kenrabbit

If there was one true religion, there'd be no other religions.

Christianity is about what God has already DONE to provide us the opportunity to be right with Him.  Religion says you must EARN your salvation by doing good deeds or certain acts and not doing evil.  Christianity says all we need to do is BELIEVE that Christ has already paid the price for the evil we have done.  Christianity says we are all evil (filled with sin) and there is nothing we can do to earn the right to be saved.  Christianity says that God (in the form of Jesus Christ) stepped into our place and paid the awful price that had to be paid for us. 

Check my latest edit.

Primordialous

So I take it you have no understanding of the history of Yahweh, and his origins as a Storm God?

Also, did you know the name "Israel" is based on the God El, and not Yahweh?

Apparently, Els female consort, Asherah, became Yahweh's female consort for a time (the 'Asherah poles' mentioned in the Bible as being in the Temple are her symbol). Then they dropped Asherah (also in the Bible) and dedicated themselves solely to Yahweh.

So you have an evolution of a God from one of many, to one of two, to one....and then to three (trinity).

Yeah, same thing happens to the size of the fish every time an old fisherman tells the story.

How could I trust something that so obviously evolved from human imagination?

Now, I don't disbelieve in a creating force, I just don't think you can assign human elements to it like a cognizant personality. If it has anything resembling thought at all, it's of order and design, not sin and purification.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

Check my latest edit.

br0kenrabbit

So I take it you have no understanding of the history of Yahweh, and his origins as a Storm God?

Also, did you know the name "Israel" is based on the God El, and not Yahweh?

Apparently, Els female consort, Asherah, became Yahweh's female consort for a time (the 'Asherah poles' mentioned in the Bible as being in the Temple are her symbol). Then they dropped Asherah (also in the Bible) and dedicated themselves solely to Yahweh.

So you have an evolution of a God from one of many, to one of two, to one....and then to three (trinity).

Yeah, same thing happens to the size of the fish every time an old fisherman tells the story.

How could I trust something that so obviously evolved from human imagination?

Now, I don't disbelieve in a creating force, I just don't think you can assign human elements to it like a cognizant personality. If it has anything resembling thought at all, it's of order and design, not sin and purification.

I highly suggest you read thoroughly through this article- http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Yahweh-Jehova-YHVH.html

Now, no more bashing. Keep this on-topic.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

I highly suggest you read thoroughly through this article- http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Yahweh-Jehova-YHVH.html

 

Now, no more bashing. Keep this on-topic.

br0kenrabbit

I've read that before, it may have been you who linked me to it. It completely ignores that fact that Hebrew script has gone through a few revisions in its history (documented fact) and that Paleo-Hebrew script has no relation to Aramaic script or modern Hebrew (square-script).

Just because someone is capable of making a web page (a $hitty one at that) doesn't mean it's so.

I can read Hebrew pretty well, you really don't want to get into this with me.

The changes are not very large at all and have no significant bearing on the overall message.

The Dead Sea Scrolls also provide evidence for accuracy.

I have no will to debate over this, so please, drop it.

I just decide not to give a f*ck and not be influenced by anything. A lot of these conspiracy theories are absurd anyway.

Religion was invented as a means to power and control.

The crazies are sure loving the two explosive events this week. Double the government bs. :roll:

I think the big banks and government are conspiring.

A conspiracy clearly took place with the Boston Bombing. Anyone who disagrees that these 2 individuals conspired is a complete moron. thegerg

Something is definitely up with the Saudi national being deported.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Religion was invented as a means to power and control.

Primordialous

Oh, I agree. 99% of Religion is man-made and pointless. I believe in a Person that caused the one true religion.

 

Oh, I agree. 99% of Religion is man-made and pointless. I believe in a Person that caused the one true religion.

Primordialous

If there was one true religion, there'd be no other religions.

I never know what to believe. Could be anything.

just because a religion is man-made does not mean it is a form of control, many religions are outwardly against control and slightly anarchists, such as the jews, christians, taoists, etc. They are transformed into controlling agents by institutions, politicians, churches and other Archons. if the bible does not work for you, then find the works that does, if none of them work for you, use yourself. 23crossdressers

Indoctrination is itself control. You form the mind to think how you desire it to do so.

Conspiracy theories are (usually) for weak minded morons that think, hope even, that people have way more control over the world than they really do. They can't handle that the world is just f*cked up sometimes and there is nothing anyone can do about it. 

[QUOTE="23crossdressers"] just because a religion is man-made does not mean it is a form of control, many religions are outwardly against control and slightly anarchists, such as the jews, christians, taoists, etc. They are transformed into controlling agents by institutions, politicians, churches and other Archons. if the bible does not work for you, then find the works that does, if none of them work for you, use yourself. br0kenrabbit

Indoctrination is itself control. You form the mind to think how you desire it to do so.

Indoctrination is itself control. You form the mind to think how you desire it to do so.

 

br0kenrabbit

A lot of them are fvcking stupid. With that said, however, some conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, and thus should not be dismissed based solely on it being a conspiracy theory.Rich3232

[QUOTE="Rich3232"]A lot of them are fvcking stupid. With that said, however, some conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, and thus should not be dismissed based solely on it being a conspiracy theory.playmynutz

You are not an iron pillar of willpower that isn't influenced by anything that exists, you are a product of your environment, as i am as well. You can believe the bible and still critical think, if you cast out your demons and your soul you have done nothing but made yourself a Hollow Person. which many so-called critical thinkers have done. 23crossdressers

I think the idea of demons are as silly, childish and irrational as invisible friends. To suggest that these invisible and influential beings dwell inside me, well, when someone suggests that I really have to fight the urge to talk to them as I would a child and calmly explain that there are no monsters under the bed.

[QUOTE="playmynutz"][QUOTE="Rich3232"]A lot of them are fvcking stupid. With that said, however, some conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, and thus should not be dismissed based solely on it being a conspiracy theory.The_Lipscomb

[QUOTE="23crossdressers"]You are not an iron pillar of willpower that isn't influenced by anything that exists, you are a product of your environment, as i am as well. You can believe the bible and still critical think, if you cast out your demons and your soul you have done nothing but made yourself a Hollow Person. which many so-called critical thinkers have done. br0kenrabbit

I think the idea of demons are as silly, childish and irrational as invisible friends. To suggest that these invisible and influential beings dwell inside me, well, when someone suggests that I really have to fight the urge to talk to them as I would a child and calmly explain that there are no monsters under the bed.

Most of religion thing in it self is symbols, and symbols are real. none of the religions were based on logical rhetoric. it isn't philosophy, it is art, it is ideas. 23crossdressers

Designed specifically to mold the minds of followers to be consistent with whoever dictates that religion. Yeah, I get it.

[QUOTE="23crossdressers"] Most of religion thing in it self is symbols, and symbols are real. none of the religions were based on logical rhetoric. it isn't philosophy, it is art, it is ideas. br0kenrabbit

Designed specifically to mold the minds of followers to be consistent with whoever dictates that religion. Yeah, I get it.

I highly suggest you read thoroughly through this article- http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Yahweh-Jehova-YHVH.html

 

Now, no more bashing. Keep this on-topic.

Primordialous

I've read that before, it may have been you who linked me to it. It completely ignores that fact that Hebrew script has gone through a few revisions in its history (documented fact) and that Paleo-Hebrew script has no relation to Aramaic script or modern Hebrew (square-script).

Just because someone is capable of making a web page (a $hitty one at that) doesn't mean it's so.

I can read Hebrew pretty well, you really don't want to get into this with me.

Do you avoid all art for that reason? Do you lack absolutely no sense individuation? they are all just fingers, we are suppose to be looking at the moon bra. if religion doesn't work for you, there is millions of other ways there. 23crossdressers

Art doesn't tell me I'm going to burn in hell because I bang a woman I'm not married to, or that my gay friends are immoral, or that I shouldn't eat Pork or wear clothes made of more than one thread.

The changes are not very large at all and have no significant bearing on the overall message.

 

The Dead Sea Scrolls also provide evidence for accuracy.

 

I have no will to debate over this, so please, drop it.

Primordialous

The changes are so significant that the original script does not resemble later script at all...because they aren't even related.

And the Dead Sea scrolls were written well after the adoption of later scripts.

Dude, once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

The changes are not very large at all and have no significant bearing on the overall message.

 

The Dead Sea Scrolls also provide evidence for accuracy.

 

I have no will to debate over this, so please, drop it.

br0kenrabbit

The changes are so significant that the original script does not resemble later script at all...because they aren't even related.

And the Dead Sea scrolls were written well after the adoption of later scripts.

Dude, once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

You just don't know when to stop, do you?

You just don't know when to stop, do you?

Primordialous

You're the one that keeps being wrong.

Stop repeating what they tell you in Bible School and do some actual research. Your ignorance is showing.

Again.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

You just don't know when to stop, do you?

br0kenrabbit

You're the one that keeps being wrong.

Stop repeating what they tell you in Bible School and do some actual research. Your ignorance is showing.

Again.

It isn't a matter of right and wrong- the point was for you to stop taking this off-topic.

It isn't a matter of right and wrong- the point was for you to stop taking this off-topic.

Primordialous

No, you're just trying to save face. I won't let you. I'm going to be a dick and rub your ignorance in your face for all to see, because I think it's funny.

The original Torah scripts were as so:

Then later you have the square script:

Which makes this post:

The changes are not very large at all and have no significant bearing on the overall message.

 

Primordialous

Completely indefensible.

:D

 

Completely indefensible.

:D

br0kenrabbit

Keanu Reeves is immortal

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

 

Completely indefensible.

:D

LJS9502_basic

It IS pointless. He has to be a complete d1ck and take things off-topic just to enlarge his own epeen or something.

It IS pointless. He has to be a complete d1ck and take things off-topic just to enlarge his own epeen or something.Primordialous

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]It IS pointless. He has to be a complete d1ck and take things off-topic just to enlarge his own epeen or something.cheese_game619

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

 

Completely indefensible.

:D

LJS9502_basic

How can it be pointless when the point was indeed made? :?

It IS pointless. He has to be a complete d1ck and take things off-topic just to enlarge his own epeen or something.

Primordialous

You made a false statement as fact, and I called you on it. Live with it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]LOL you really believe that.....you were arguing opinion. Unless you can give me credentials that you are in fact a Hebrew scholar....br0kenrabbit

Then please state the opinion being argued. You understand what an opinion is, right? "I like Big Macs better than Whoppers" is an opinion. If you say "In my opinion, the Earth is flat," that's not an opinion, you're just wrong.