China moon landing(far side of moon)

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#1 Posted by watercrack445 (1047 posts) -

A Chinese space probe successfully touched down on the far side of the moon on Thursday, China's space agency said, hailing the event as a historic first and a major achievement for the country's space program.

The Chang'e-4 lunar probe, launched in December, made the "soft landing" at 0226 GMT and transmitted the first-ever "close range" image of the far side of the moon, the China National Space Administration said.

The moon is tidally locked to Earth, rotating at the same rate as it orbits our planet, so most of the far side - or "dark side" - is never visible to us. Previous spacecraft have seen the far side, but none has landed on it.

The landing "lifted the mysterious veil" of the far side of the moon and "opened a new chapter in human lunar exploration", the agency said in a statement on its website, which included a wide-angle color picture of a crater from the moon's surface.

The probe, which has a lander and a rover, touched down at a targeted area near the moon's south pole in the Von Karman Crater after entering the moon's orbit in mid-December.

The tasks of the Chang'e-4 include astronomical observation, surveying the moon's terrain, landform and mineral makeup, and measuring the neutron radiation and neutral atoms to study the environment of its far side.

The control center in Beijing will decide when to let the rover separate from the lander, state news agency Xinhua said.

"It's an important milestone for China's space exploration," Wu Weiren, chief designer of the lunar exploration program, said, according to Xinhua.

The probe also took six live species - cotton, rapeseed, potato, arabidopsis, fruit fly and yeast - to the lifeless environment to form a mini biosphere, Xinhua said.

A MAJOR SPACE POWER

The landing is the latest step for China in its race to catch up with Russia and the United States and become a major space power by 2030. Beijing plans to launch construction of its own manned space station next year.

While China has insisted its ambitions are purely peaceful, the U.S. Defense Department has accused it of pursuing activities aiming to prevent other nations from using space-based assets during a crisis.

Besides its civilian ambitions, China has tested anti-satellite missiles and the U.S. Congress has banned NASA from two-way cooperation with its Chinese counterpart over security concerns.

As competition accelerates in space, U.S. President Donald Trump seeks to create a new "Space Force" by 2020, as the sixth branch of the military.

But the private space race is also heating up, as numerous companies aim to commercialize space travel, such as California-based SpaceX, which has upended the industry with its low-cost reusable Falcon 9 rockets.

The United States is the only country to have landed humans on the moon, and Trump said in 2017 he wanted to return astronauts to the lunar surface to build a foundation for an eventual Mars mission.

NASA administrators have said people could be put on Mars by as soon as the mid-2030s, with the agency having landed eight spacecraft there, the most recent in November.

As soon as 2022, NASA expects to begin building a new space station laboratory to orbit the moon, as a pit stop for missions to distant parts of the solar system.

In 2003, China became the third country to put a man in space with its own rocket after the former Soviet Union and the United States, and in 2017 it said it was preparing to send a person to the moon.

China completed its first lunar "soft landing" in 2013, but its "Jade Rabbit" rover began malfunctioning after several weeks.

Many generations ago the Chinese built the great wall, and today they land on the moon - the US landed on the moon generations ago, and today wants to build a wall...is this progress for both societies?

jokes aside, good job for the Chinese people. Its the first country to land on the far side of the moon.

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#2 Posted by Yams1980 (3140 posts) -

ya its pretty cool that the USA wants to build a great wall. Space was overrated anyways, they need that big wall to help prevent global warming.

Aren't there conspiracies about alien bases on the dark side of the moon? Is that why China wanted to probe it? I can't believe they fell for it.... the Chinese should try to find Obama's birth certificate next.

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#3 Edited by madrocketeer (5988 posts) -

Yeah, the issue is communication: you need radio line of sight to communicate with your lander, which the "far" side of the Moon does not have. It's actually pretty simple to solve by sticking a satellite at L2 Larange Point just behind the moon and use it as a relay, which is exactly what the Chinese did. It's just nobody bothered to do it until now.

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#4 Posted by DaVillain- (33768 posts) -

Well, we're on Mars at the moment. China only has a few hundred million more miles to go to catch up but kudos for China going to explore the dark of the Moon.

@Yams1980 said:

ya its pretty cool that the USA wants to build a great wall. Space was overrated anyways, they need that big wall to help prevent global warming.

Aren't there conspiracies about alien bases on the dark side of the moon? Is that why China wanted to probe it? I can't believe they fell for it.... the Chinese should try to find Obama's birth certificate next.

What did NASA see at the end of the Apollo mission that made them never wanna revisit the moon again? Had to be something pretty damn frightening, huh?

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#5 Posted by madrocketeer (5988 posts) -
@davillain- said:

What did NASA see at the end of the Apollo mission that made them never wanna revisit the moon again? Had to be something pretty damn frightening, huh?

The most frightening adversary of all space programs: budget cuts. Also, NASA had moved on to other priorities: Skylab, the Space Shuttle and the Voyager program.

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#6 Edited by mrbojangles25 (42789 posts) -

Good for China. I hope in the future all these nuclear-capable countries put their budgets, efforts, and frustrations into space exploration. Maybe even jointly, with other countries.

Sort of like the first five minutes of Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets intro. Welcome Russia! Welcome China! Welcome India! Welcome Saudi Arabia! Welcome aliens!

@davillain- said:

Well, we're on Mars at the moment. China only has a few hundred million more miles to go to catch up but kudos for China going to explore the dark of the Moon.

@Yams1980 said:

ya its pretty cool that the USA wants to build a great wall. Space was overrated anyways, they need that big wall to help prevent global warming.

Aren't there conspiracies about alien bases on the dark side of the moon? Is that why China wanted to probe it? I can't believe they fell for it.... the Chinese should try to find Obama's birth certificate next.

What did NASA see at the end of the Apollo mission that made them never wanna revisit the moon again? Had to be something pretty damn frightening, huh?

Ha. Did you ever see Apollo 18? it was...ok

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#7 Posted by Mandzilla (2742 posts) -

China will prob be the first nation to land on Mars, they're making good progress in space.

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#8 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (24999 posts) -
@davillain- said:

What did NASA see at the end of the Apollo mission that made them never wanna revisit the moon again? Had to be something pretty damn frightening, huh?

Reusable space vehicles a la Space Shuttle, better research equipment in space such as Hubble, Chandra, and Kepler, better satellites (eg microwave scanning tech), and deep space probes.

The Apollo missions were quite wasteful. The junk from the Apollo missions are still there.

Taken by the Lunar Recon Orbiter (LRO). Apollo 14 landing site with junk and footprint trail:

I think Arizona State U is involved with the LRO while U of Arizona is involved with one of the Mars missions. Actually, U of A is currently on an asteroid study mission with OSIRIS-REx.

https://www.lpl.arizona.edu/news/spotlight/nasa%E2%80%99s-osiris-rex-spacecraft-enters-close-orbit-around-bennu-breaking-record

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#9 Posted by killerfist (20114 posts) -

Would be nice to see them try to put people on the moon again.

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#10 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58842 posts) -

It won't be long before we land on US soil.

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#11 Posted by fireman64 (42 posts) -

I'm interested to see where this is going, it's been a long time coming I believe.. After the Apollo missions, space travel slowed to a stand still..

Now everyone wants to get to the moon and mars... It's not an easy task.

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#12 Posted by Mandzilla (2742 posts) -

*C&C Generals dozer voice* This looks like a good spot! - China will grow larger. - I build for China!

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#13 Posted by DaVillain- (33768 posts) -

@jun_aka_pekto said:
@davillain- said:

What did NASA see at the end of the Apollo mission that made them never wanna revisit the moon again? Had to be something pretty damn frightening, huh?

Reusable space vehicles a la Space Shuttle, better research equipment in space such as Hubble, Chandra, and Kepler, better satellites (eg microwave scanning tech), and deep space probes.

The Apollo missions were quite wasteful. The junk from the Apollo missions are still there.

Taken by the Lunar Recon Orbiter (LRO). Apollo 14 landing site with junk and footprint trail:

I think Arizona State U is involved with the LRO while U of Arizona is involved with one of the Mars missions. Actually, U of A is currently on an asteroid study mission with OSIRIS-REx.

https://www.lpl.arizona.edu/news/spotlight/nasa%E2%80%99s-osiris-rex-spacecraft-enters-close-orbit-around-bennu-breaking-record

Can't believe I miss this reply. My Notification must've stop back then.

Interesting results from Luna, and yeah, it was wasteful so I can understand why.