Can Only The Japanese Do Anime?

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#1 black_chamber99
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on deviantart someone posted character designs of a new manga they were creating very much in line with what you'd see in anime. a few of the commenters said it was fake anime and only japanese can create true anime. any american or european or other asian doing that style is just wannabe crap. is that true?

is something like avatar the last airbender considered anime? its certainly inspired by that style

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#3 Fightingfan
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No. A style of cartoon is not exclusive to one nationality. thegerg
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#4 dream431ca
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OMG. You have never watched a Japanese Horror film? So much better than American Horror films.

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Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style.
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Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style.Ace6301

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#9 tepni
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Everyone can do the animes

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#10 TrainerCeleste
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[QUOTE="thegerg"]No. A style of cartoon is not exclusive to one nationality. Fightingfan

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No. A style of cartoon is not exclusive to one nationality. thegerg

Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style. Ace6301

This and this.

The only people I hear say that only the Japanese can draw anime style and that everything else is fake trash are the same ones that go around saying that "Japan is the most kawaiiest and sugoi place evuuuuuuur!!1111"

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hehe do
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[QUOTE="thegerg"]No. A style of cartoon is not exclusive to one nationality. Lucky_Krystal

Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style. Ace6301

This and this.

The only people I hear say that only the Japanese can draw anime style and that everything else is fake trash are the same ones that go around saying that "Japan is the most kawaiiest and sugoi place evuuuuuuur!!1111"

I hate.broken.japanese :|
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Anime has been molded over time so the definition and usage has variances in slang on where in the world it is used. I remember the slang used for japanese animation in the 80s and it wasn't anime. But most japanese fanatic sites, or even casual ones, try and compare crap like naruto or bleach to the 1940s snow white to compare styles and whatnot. Snow White was/is important to japanese animation history nonetheless.

Regardless its a origin designation of Japan. You can't get around that. Demographic wise of course and not ethnically by default.
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OMG. You have never watched a Japanese Horror film? So much better than American Horror films.

dream431ca
He didnt say that the japanese can only do anime. He said can anime only be done by the japanese.
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Anime has been molded over time so the definition and usage has variances in slang on where in the world it is used. I remember the slang used for japanese animation in the 80s and it wasn't anime. But most japanese fanatic sites, or even casual ones, try and compare crap like naruto or bleach to the 1940s snow white to compare styles and whatnot. Snow White was/is important to japanese animation history nonetheless.

Regardless its a origin designation of Japan. You can't get around that. Demographic wise of course and not ethnically by default.CreasianDevaili

what was it?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style.jimkabrhel

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on deviantart someone posted character designs of a new manga they were creating very much in line with what you'd see in anime. a few of the commenters said it was fake anime and only japanese can create true anime. any american or european or other asian doing that style is just wannabe crap. is that true?

is something like avatar the last airbender considered anime? its certainly inspired by that style

black_chamber99
Uh...I don't know. What's the actual DEFINITION of anime? To be honest, I don't even know. I've seen lots of anime, but I don't think I've ever bothered to learn what anime even IS. If the word "anime" necessarily requires that it be japanese, then obviously only the Japanese can make anime. If the word anime merely refers to a style of animation, then obviously anyone can do it. But...I don't know. I seriously never bothered to take the time to learn what "anime" even means.
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#19 Cloud_765
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Code Lyoko...
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#20 ShadowsDemon
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Whatever the case, they do it the best...
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#21 WiiCubeM1
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No, but prejuidice and stereotypical thinking make it seem that way.

Personally, I can't stand anime-style at all thanks to Deviantart.

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#22 Cloud_765
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No, but prejuidice and stereotypical thinking make it seem that way.

Personally, I can't stand anime-style at all thanks to Deviantart.

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And here you were talking about prejudice. Ah, well. DeviantArt is has no relation to anime, it's where the freakiest artists in the lowest common denominator go to share their freaky art. Not saying the place is bad. I've seen OUTSTANDING art from there. But it's a sketchy place. *shifty eyes*
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#23 Saturos3091
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OMG. You have never watched a Japanese Horror film? So much better than American Horror films.

dream431ca
Modern Japanese horror films are jokes. There's a few great surreal Japanese horror films from the '70s, but I haven't seen a single good one post-80's. Animu can be done by anyone and be legit. It's just a drawing.
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#24 Celldrax
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Anime is a style of animation. Where it comes from shouldn't matter. Though to me, anime is what it is because it's all in Japanese basically (and what a lot of people tend to watch it in).

So to me, there's anime, and then there's anime inspired cartoons. So basically.....it's all the same thing in the end....just different.

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#25 black_chamber99
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Anime is a style of animation. Where it comes from shouldn't matter. Though to me, anime is what it is because it's all in Japanese basically (and what a lot of people tend to watch it in).

So to me, there's anime, and then there's anime inspired cartoons. So basically.....it's all the same thing in the end....just different.

Celldrax

you can't have it both ways bro, its either all anime or its different. it sounds to me like you lean towards the japanese side being the 'true' anime but you fear being called a weeaboo

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#26 Celldrax
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[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

Anime is a style of animation. Where it comes from shouldn't matter. Though to me, anime is what it is because it's all in Japanese basically (and what a lot of people tend to watch it in).

So to me, there's anime, and then there's anime inspired cartoons. So basically.....it's all the same thing in the end....just different.

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you can't have it both ways bro, its either all anime or its different. it sounds to me like you lean towards the japanese side being the 'true' anime but you fear being called a weeaboo

No... I personally used to watch lot of anime (not only that, but I wouldn't care if someone called me that anyway).

As I said, it's all the same really. There's just anime that's in Japanese, and anime insipred shows that aren't.

And to clarify.....I have no problems with anime that isn't made in Japan.....I''m just being very specific.

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Uh...I don't know. What's the actual DEFINITION of anime?MrGeezer
There are 3 different definitions, depending on who you ask: In the Japanese language anime means every animated movie. Including western stuff. Western anime fans are split between those who define it as "animation made in Japan" and those who define it as "animation style from Japan". I think the second category is a bit more common. But I gotta add: Both groups pretty much agree that no true anime has been made outside of Japan yet.
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#28 Goyoshi12
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I'd say it's a style that the Japanese are the best at.

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[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Anime has been molded over time so the definition and usage has variances in slang on where in the world it is used. I remember the slang used for japanese animation in the 80s and it wasn't anime. But most japanese fanatic sites, or even casual ones, try and compare crap like naruto or bleach to the 1940s snow white to compare styles and whatnot. Snow White was/is important to japanese animation history nonetheless.

Regardless its a origin designation of Japan. You can't get around that. Demographic wise of course and not ethnically by default.

what was it?

Japanimation. Of course this was back when you had to order vhs tapes usually dubbed in brazil since no one was dubbing animation from japan. Well, not common animation. I still feel anime is just a origin designation and not an art designation. Just check out the early stuff and you will see. Check out Wakfu animated series on youtube to see something that I think uses that art form just fine. Its French however.
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#30 sune_Gem
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It's a style. Anyone can learn it.

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#31 SirWander
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In the Japanese language anime means every animated movie. Including western stuff. Reptylus

I was going to post something like this, but it's really anything that has to do with animation.

I really have no idea why people get so worked up when they see works that are inspired by "anime." It's not as if the creators of the projects are trying to take over the industry by aping a style they find aesthetically pleasing. Nor were they trying to masquerade it as something Japanese. The people (weeaboos) that do make the claim that a particular style can only be made by a people of a particular nationality are shortsighted. For example: I don't think it was ever the case that the creators of Avatar were trying to appeal to a Japanese sensibility when it comes to story telling and character development. It was made with an American audience in mind. So when someone says that "Avatar" will never be true anime; it's a poor argument, as it never tried to be.

When people say that only the Japanese can create "true anime", it's a simplified statement. There's some truth to it, as things produced in Japan have to appeal to the domestic audience. There are differences between our cultures (inb4 America has no culture) and what people find to be acceptable. To ignore that side of things is a very silly thing to do.

While it's sort of true that "true anime" can only made by the Japanese, I don't think it was ever the goal of the people making such projects to pass it off as such. They were influenced by an art style that they liked, I don't see how people can interpret it as anything else (unless they're jumping to conclusions).

And Avatar can be considered anime.

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#32 cain006
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Manga's just comics with a general art style. I mean what would you call comics from say Korea with that art style?

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#33 Lucky_Krystal
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Manga's just comics with a general art style. I mean what would you call comics from say Korea with that art style?

cain006

I believe the Korean version of manga is manwha. Not sure if that's the general term for comics in Korea or just the ones that have the anime style.

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#34 TheFlush
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Of course not.
However, a lot of anime (at least the ones I watch) have a level of abstraction or even complete weirdness you don't often see in western cartoons.
Japanese are good at giving their own unique twist on things because they are not western.

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]No. A style of cartoon is not exclusive to one nationality. Lucky_Krystal

Technically anime and manga can only be done by Japan because by definition they are comics/cartoons made in Japan. Anyone can replicate the style though, it's not like Japanese are the only ones who can do that style. Ace6301

This and this.

The only people I hear say that only the Japanese can draw anime style and that everything else is fake trash are the same ones that go around saying that "Japan is the most kawaiiest and sugoi place evuuuuuuur!!1111"

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#36 GreekGameManiac
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You worded it the wrong way.........

"Anime" is French for animation....so this is kinda dumb......

You should've said "Japanimation or Japanese anime".

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#38 PinkiePirate
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Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American-aminated, Anime inspired show.

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#39 Nengo_Flow
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Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American-aminated, Anime inspired show.

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yeah and its actually one of the Best anime I've ever seen. Although anime is mostly about "that" art style, its also more than the art style.
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#40 GreekGameManiac
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Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American-aminated, Anime inspired show.

PinkiePirate

American animated?

Lol..............

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#41 lonewolfman10
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Everyone can do the animes

tepni

This, Americans can do very well with animes also, depending on which anime they do make of course

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#42 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American-aminated, Anime inspired show.

American animated?

Lol..............

Check out Wakfu animated series on youtube for a non japanese animated anime that uses the art style well.
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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American-aminated, Anime inspired show.

American animated?

Lol..............

Check out Wakfu animated series on youtube for a non japanese animated anime that uses the art style well.

I'm almost entirely sure he means that it's not actually entirely American animated. In fact it's largely animated by Koreans.
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#44 soulless4now
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No, but they still do it the best.

Sailor Moon. <3

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#45 Darthkaiser
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The style? No I mean look at Avatar, that was done here in America....I think
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#46 sune_Gem
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Just pop on deviantART. There's about a billion users on there that draw manga/anime perfectly and barely any of them are asian (based on their current country of residence/deviant ID picture). I had a friend who drew the style near perfectly who wasn't asian too.

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#47 Blade8Aus
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There's some debate about this, but what I think I've read most often is that anime are 'eastern cartoons'. I wish we could call them that, if not just 'cartoons'.

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#48 GreekGameManiac
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*sigh*

Ppl are so dumb and misinformed.....

One more time.

AnimE,is a FRENCH word,for ANIMATION.

So NO,the Japanese aren't the only ones who can do it.

@Darthkaiser...have you seen the credits?

Just because Americans wrote it,DOESN'T mean it's animated by them.Avatar was animated by Asians.

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#50 SirWander
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GreekGameManiac: in that case it's more likely a borrowed word that was taken from the French language.

but merriam-webster says you're wrong

Origin ofANIME

Japanese, animation, short for animshiyon, from English First Known Use: 1988merriam-webster


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