Can A Black Person Be A Racist?

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Posted by Master_Live (18815 posts) 3 years, 5 months ago

Poll: Can A Black Person Be A Racist? (134 votes)

Yes 93%
No 7%

Lets take this one on right know. It doesn't need to be black, it can be of another race. Can a person person, regardless of its race, be a racist? I do believe a person, regardless of its race, can be a racist. What say you OT?

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#1 Posted by Sword-Demon (7007 posts) -

sure, why not?

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#2 Edited by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

I guess black people can be racist, but I think it's a different kind of racism.

Honestly I think resentment is a better word to describe it.

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#3 Posted by theone86 (20669 posts) -

Racism refers to systematized discrimination that is imbued within the power structure of a society, so no. I feel the hangup here is on the word "racism" and not on that distinction itself. If it helps you to use a different word to distinguish between systematized discrimination and other forms of racial discrimination I have nor problem with that, I do have a problem with the distinction getting lost because of semantics.

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#4 Posted by tocool340 (21104 posts) -

Yep...

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#5 Edited by uninspiredcup (24673 posts) -

Spike Lee and Kanye West.

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#6 Edited by Master_Live (18815 posts) -

@theone86 said:

Racism refers to systematized discrimination that is imbued within the power structure of a society, so no. I feel the hangup here is on the word "racism" and not on that distinction itself. If it helps you to use a different word to distinguish between systematized discrimination and other forms of racial discrimination I have nor problem with that, I do have a problem with the distinction getting lost because of semantics.

Nah, you are trying to frame the argument on your grounds. I reject your definition of racism.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

  1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
  2. racial prejudice or discrimination
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#7 Posted by foxhound_fox (96539 posts) -

Uh... yeah. In the US especially.

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#8 Posted by KHAndAnime (17565 posts) -

BRHD was a perfect example of a racist black man.

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#9 Posted by johnd13 (9204 posts) -

@KHAndAnime said:

BRHD was a perfect example of a racist black man.

Was?

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#10 Posted by Open-Casket (72 posts) -

Absolutely. Happens quite frequently.

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#11 Edited by 4myAmuzumament (1791 posts) -

They can only be called racist if they do something racist in an African country. Other than that, it doesn't count. The world is in debt to black people so everyone is just gonna have to deal with blacks being able to play the race card to their advantage.

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#12 Posted by Perfect_Blue (29815 posts) -

@theone86 said:

Racism refers to systematized discrimination that is imbued within the power structure of a society, so no. I feel the hangup here is on the word "racism" and not on that distinction itself. If it helps you to use a different word to distinguish between systematized discrimination and other forms of racial discrimination I have nor problem with that, I do have a problem with the distinction getting lost because of semantics.

What if this hypothetical black person lives in an area where they are top of the social order? (like in some African country)

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#13 Posted by KHAndAnime (17565 posts) -

@johnd13 said:

@KHAndAnime said:

BRHD was a perfect example of a racist black man.

Was?

He is no more.

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#14 Posted by pyro1245 (3128 posts) -

well I put yes because racism is just a form of discrimination; but I've always hated the term race when applied to the people of this planet. We're all members of the human race, we're just diverse in the way we look and our various cultures. In a few more generations hopefully all the bigots will die off.

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#15 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

of course

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#16 Posted by thehig1 (6145 posts) -

A black man shouts racial slurs at a Chinese Man, that's raciest, there are many more examples humans can be raciest regardless of race.

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#17 Posted by ferrari2001 (17760 posts) -

I've seen more black people being racist then I see any other race doing so. I've seen many using racial slurs, accusing others of being racist because they aren't getting special treatment for being black, etc. These things are just as racist as things that members of other races do.

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#18 Edited by AutoPilotOn (8655 posts) -

Oh yes. I lived in a duplex and my neighbor was a middle aged black man and one of the biggest racists I have ever met. Sometimes he was ok but others he would call me white boy and he kill a white boy if he crossed him and whatnot. He called me and my parents a bunch a racists because we didn't buy used tires from him. Every chance he got to play race card he did. Then other times he said I was best neighbor he had. Maybe it's cause I just ignored his racist rants instead off fighting with him.

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#19 Edited by bobaban (10560 posts) -

Why is this even a question?

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#20 Posted by jasean79 (2593 posts) -

Anybody of any color can be racist. I'm surprised this question even needed to be asked.

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#21 Posted by BranKetra (51726 posts) -

Since you said the question is for any race, I would like to know why you chose to focus the topic on African Americans.

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#22 Posted by xdude85 (6314 posts) -

Yes, anyone can be racist.

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#23 Edited by LJS9502_basic (161701 posts) -

@theone86 said:

Racism refers to systematized discrimination that is imbued within the power structure of a society, so no. I feel the hangup here is on the word "racism" and not on that distinction itself. If it helps you to use a different word to distinguish between systematized discrimination and other forms of racial discrimination I have nor problem with that, I do have a problem with the distinction getting lost because of semantics.

That's not quite the definition of racism....seems you made up your own definition to fit your bias. And yes....anyone of any race can be racist.

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#24 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:

@theone86 said:

Racism refers to systematized discrimination that is imbued within the power structure of a society, so no. I feel the hangup here is on the word "racism" and not on that distinction itself. If it helps you to use a different word to distinguish between systematized discrimination and other forms of racial discrimination I have nor problem with that, I do have a problem with the distinction getting lost because of semantics.

That's not quite the definition of racism....seems you made up your own definition to fit your bias.

that's the social justice warrior definition of racism.

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#25 Edited by Master_Live (18815 posts) -

@BranKetra said:

Since you said the question is for any race, I would like to know why you chose to focus the topic on African Americans.

Because this site sucks. You used to be able to write the title of a thread and the question of a poll separately (you can't do that anymore, I forgot, my bad). You know what we used to be able to do too? Edit the title of a thread which included a poll (and which I tried to do because I agree with the point that I think you are trying to get to that it might look this thread singles out blacks/African Americans) but you can't do that either anymore.

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#26 Edited by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

Yes. My guess is that black people are generally more racist than average.

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#27 Posted by thegerg (18263 posts) -

Yes.

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#28 Edited by BranKetra (51726 posts) -

Sorry for your troubles.

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#29 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@themajormayor said:

Yes. My guess is that black people are generally more racist than average.

And you base this on what?

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#30 Edited by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

@GreySeal9 said:

@themajormayor said:

Yes. My guess is that black people are generally more racist than average.

And you base this on what?

Poverty and lack of education are generally correlated with racism I assume. And black people are generally poorer and less educated than average. That's what I base my guess on.

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#31 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

I guess black people can be racist, but I think it's a different kind of racism.

Honestly I think resentment is a better word to describe it.

Some black people are racist because of "resentment," but I know a few black people who genuinely think black people are better than white people.

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#32 Posted by lamprey263 (34372 posts) -

yup...

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#33 Posted by LordQuorthon (5667 posts) -

Absolutely. And not only against whites and other races, some are very much like Stephen from Django Unchained.

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#34 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@themajormayor said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@themajormayor said:

Yes. My guess is that black people are generally more racist than average.

And you base this on what?

Poverty and lack of education are generally correlated with racism I assume. And black people are generally poorer and less educated than average. That's what I base my guess on.

I guess I can understand your logic, but I don't think it's at all that simple.

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#35 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

@GreySeal9 said:

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

I guess black people can be racist, but I think it's a different kind of racism.

Honestly I think resentment is a better word to describe it.

Some black people are racist because of "resentment," but I know a few black people who genuinely think black people are better than white people.

I watched a Louie Theroux documentary not too long ago where he interviewed a bunch of different black political leaders in Harlem and at one point he interviewed these Black Israelites and they said some pretty interesting things that I hadn't known before.

Apparently Beethoven, Mozart and Shakespeare were black and Abraham Lincoln's blackness is "under review"

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#36 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

I guess black people can be racist, but I think it's a different kind of racism.

Honestly I think resentment is a better word to describe it.

Some black people are racist because of "resentment," but I know a few black people who genuinely think black people are better than white people.

I watched a Louie Theroux documentary not too long ago where he interviewed a bunch of different black political leaders in Harlem and at one point he interviewed these Black Israelites and they said some pretty interesting things that I hadn't known before.

Apparently Beethoven, Mozart and Shakespeare were black and Abraham Lincoln's blackness is "under review"

I think I've actually seen that documentary lol.

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#37 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -
@lamprey263 said:

yup...

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Such a funny and sad character.

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#38 Posted by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

@GreySeal9 said:

@themajormayor said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@themajormayor said:

Yes. My guess is that black people are generally more racist than average.

And you base this on what?

Poverty and lack of education are generally correlated with racism I assume. And black people are generally poorer and less educated than average. That's what I base my guess on.

I guess I can understand your logic, but I don't think it's at all that simple.

Definitely not. I'm wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong. There are so many variables to take into account. I haven't done any research on this whatsoever and that's why I am only guessing, based on one assumption.

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#39 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

Can black people be racist?

like racist to wards other balck people or racist towards others (whites, hispanic, other nationalities and races)?

the answer is yes they can and yes they are.

I know plenty of black people who hate white people. I know black people who hate light skinned blacks and even just regular dark tone black people.

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#40 Edited by AFBrat77 (26252 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

Spike Lee and Kanye West.

I was going to say Spike Lee but you beat me to it. Unquestionably racist.

Of course they can be racist....kind of a dumb question, the reason why the poll is so lopsided.

Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown is another, though he has more reason to be so than the younger gents. But man he bragged about hooking up with white chicks to show he beat up on whitey.

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#41 Edited by BranKetra (51726 posts) -

I am surprised this is even a question.

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#42 Edited by Blue-Sky (10379 posts) -

I think you're racist for even asking this question.

You can tell the person asking it must have some ignorant falsehoods about racial insensitivity and public speaking.

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#43 Posted by hippiesanta (10299 posts) -

Al Sharpton is racist

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#45 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

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"Can a black person be racist?" OF COURSE! Im black and Im racist. However, Im a TRUE and LITERAL racist because I hate the human race....no hope for these asshats. If I had a doomsday device that would wipe out all human life and save the plants, insects and other animals (yes, we are animals. Literally.) then I would use it in a heartbeat. Yes, I know that includes getting rid of myself too, no problem with that. We are the scourge of the universe....

so edgy

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#46 Posted by chaplainDMK (7004 posts) -

@Chatch09 said:

"Can a black person be racist?" OF COURSE! Im black and Im racist. However, Im a TRUE and LITERAL racist because I hate the human race....no hope for these asshats. If I had a doomsday device that would wipe out all human life and save the plants, insects and other animals (yes, we are animals. Literally.) then I would use it in a heartbeat. Yes, I know that includes getting rid of myself too, no problem with that. We are the scourge of the universe....

You're a misanthrope, not a racist.

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#47 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (2620 posts) -

I have run into quite a few black people who I would consider prejudice, I think people misinterpret the word racist... it involves systematic acts that hold a certain race down and give them a disadvantage: like a business that only hires a certain race. Actually yes it is possible if an african country discriminates against whites and only hires blacks, or any race.

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#48 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames said:

I have run into quite a few black people who I would consider prejudice, I think people misinterpret the word racist... it involves systematic acts that hold a certain race down and give them a disadvantage: like a business that only hires a certain race. Actually yes it is possible if an african country discriminates against whites and only hires blacks, or any race.

no, a racist is just someone who is prejudiced/discriminatory based on race

from OED

racist: An advocate or supporter of racism; a person whose words or actions display racial prejudice or discrimination.

Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Hence: prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races,

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#49 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (2620 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

I have run into quite a few black people who I would consider prejudice, I think people misinterpret the word racist... it involves systematic acts that hold a certain race down and give them a disadvantage: like a business that only hires a certain race. Actually yes it is possible if an african country discriminates against whites and only hires blacks, or any race.

no, a racist is just someone who is prejudiced/discriminatory based on race

from OED

racist: An advocate or supporter of racism; a person whose words or actions display racial prejudice or discrimination.

Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Hence: prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races,

cool a definition of racism that has the word racism in the definition, genius.

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#50 Posted by MrGeezer (59096 posts) -

Of course a black person (or other minority) can be a racist. How is this even a serious question?