California inmates illegally sterilized, new report shows

http://news.msn.com/us/calif-inmates-illegally-sterilized-new-report-shows

This is pretty crazy stuff. 

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

Scary stuff

He made me feel like a bad mother if I didnt do it.

Cordero, who spent two years in prison for auto theft,

well......

He made me feel like a bad mother if I didnt do it.

Cordero, who spent two years in prison for auto theft,

 

 

well......

comp_atkins

Well, they had an austrian Governor back then.

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

Riverwolf007

I hope you're being sarcastic. Really I do.

I don't support this at all.

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

Well, they had an austrian Governor back then.

Masculus

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

Riverwolf007

The human population...

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

sune_Gem

The human population...

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

sune_Gem

The human population...

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

leviathan91

I hope you're being sarcastic. Really I do.

I don't support this at all.

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

good program.

maybe one day we can move it out of the prisons and into the general population.

Riverwolf007

I hope you're being sarcastic. Really I do.

I don't support this at all.

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

because it's a horrible idea

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

I hope you're being sarcastic. Really I do.

I don't support this at all.

lostrib

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

because it's a horrible idea

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

I hope you're being sarcastic. Really I do.

I don't support this at all.

lostrib

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

because it's a horrible idea

but.

18,000

every day.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]in some ways i am being sarcastic because y'know... human rights and all but in other ways i'm not.

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

 

Riverwolf007

because it's a horrible idea

but.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]in some ways i am being sarcastic because y'know... human rights and all but in other ways i'm not.

i find it disturbing that  we breed like an out of control rat population.  

at some point our population is going to crash hard and more human misery than we can even contemplate will be unleashed.

why is breeding a right and not a privilege?

why do we have no standards for who is allowed to breed?

why is it some kind of tragedy that some horrible person like in the story who is not taking care of the 5 children they already have allowed to make more?

18,000 children starve to death every single day.

why do we allow those least capable of caring for them to make more?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-17-un-hunger_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

 

Riverwolf007

because it's a horrible idea

but.

18,000

every day.

that's awful for them, perhaps their parents should have made better choices, or perhaps they need to be educated. Not forcibly sterilized

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

because it's a horrible idea

Nibroc420

but.

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i can only agree that yes it is a horrible idea.

but.

 

Riverwolf007

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

Want to here something even worse? Nobody cares!

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

because it's a horrible idea

lostrib

but.

18,000

every day.

that's awful for them, perhaps their parents should have made better choices, or perhaps they need to be educated. Not forcibly sterilized

would something like that be acceptable?

The Nazi Germany template still going strong i see

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i can only agree that yes it is a horrible idea.

but.

 

18,000

every day.

Riverwolf007

that's awful for them, perhaps their parents should have made better choices, or perhaps they need to be educated. Not forcibly sterilized

would something like that be acceptable?

no. 

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] But their mothers wanted a baby.lostrib

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

Want to here something even worse? Nobody cares!

peoples priorities baffle me.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]it's a tough gig because if you start to lay out the cold hard facts people are simply not going to like it.

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

Riverwolf007

Want to here something even worse? Nobody cares!

peoples priorities baffle me.

probably only a small minority will care.  Or only care for all of a week, maybe

The Nazi Germany template still going strong i see

Jimn_tonic

and if we even begin to scratch the surface and talk about the problem then i'm a nazi so ok, i'm a huge nazi that just goosestepped from one side of the room to the other.

now what about the problem?

does your concern go any further than dropping the nazi bomb and maybe talking about ways to fix something?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i can only agree that yes it is a horrible idea.

but.

Riverwolf007

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Want to here something even worse? Nobody cares!

lostrib

peoples priorities baffle me.

probably only a small minority will care.  Or only care for all of a week, maybe

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] But their mothers wanted a baby.comp_atkins

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]it's a tough gig because if you start to lay out the cold hard facts people are simply not going to like it.

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

Riverwolf007

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

it's also a fantasy

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The Nazi Germany template still going strong i see

Riverwolf007

and if we even begin to scratch the surface and talk about the problem then i'm a nazi so ok, i'm a huge nazi that just goosestepped from one side of the room to the other.

now what about the problem?

does your concern go any further than dropping the nazi bomb and maybe talking about ways to fix something?

lol well aren't you presumptuous.

I didn't even read your initial post. 

I made that comment because California's eugenics program actually was the template for Nazi eugenics.

so please stop with your "I'm controversial, please pay attention to me" schtick

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The Nazi Germany template still going strong i see

Jimn_tonic

and if we even begin to scratch the surface and talk about the problem then i'm a nazi so ok, i'm a huge nazi that just goosestepped from one side of the room to the other.

now what about the problem?

does your concern go any further than dropping the nazi bomb and maybe talking about ways to fix something?

lol well aren't you presumptuous.

I didn't even read your initial post. 

I made that comment because California's eugenics program actually was the template for Nazi eugenics.

so please stop with your "I'm controversial, please pay attention to me" schtick

and yeah i am pretty presumptuous..

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]it's a tough gig because if you start to lay out the cold hard facts people are simply not going to like it.

i get that nobody wants to hear this and that i am the asshole here for bringing it up.

what i think is what they are going to like even less is what happenes to any animal population that breeds on a runaway basis.

Riverwolf007

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The Nazi Germany template still going strong i see

Riverwolf007

and if we even begin to scratch the surface and talk about the problem then i'm a nazi so ok, i'm a huge nazi that just goosestepped from one side of the room to the other.

now what about the problem?

does your concern go any further than dropping the nazi bomb and maybe talking about ways to fix something?

There isn't a problem.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

Serraph105

What could possibly be more fair than to sterilize them?

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

hartsickdiscipl

What could possibly be more fair than to sterilize them?

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

hartsickdiscipl

What could possibly be more fair than to sterilize them?

trial by jury, followed by sentencing

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] and people want to ban abortion... monsters. lostrib

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

it's also a fantasy

people would never do it even if they were stepping over corpses in the street.

but, it would work like a charm.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]my plan to use the water supply to distribute birth control would almost completly eliminate abortion.

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

Riverwolf007

it's also a fantasy

people would never do it even if they were stepping over corpses in the street.

but, it would work like a charm.

no it wouldn't.  Unless this is a magic drug that you just pulled out of imagination land.  Not to mention possibilities of getting around this drug or countering it

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] and people want to ban abortion... monsters. comp_atkins

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

for one the rich parts of society would bypass it easily just like everything else.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's also a fantasy

lostrib

people would never do it even if they were stepping over corpses in the street.

but, it would work like a charm.

no it wouldn't.  Unless this is a magic drug that you just pulled out of imagination land.  Not to mention possibilities of getting around this drug or countering it

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]my plan to use the water supply to distribute birth control would almost completly eliminate abortion.

they would be unneeded.

because until you were ready to have children you would just not take the antidote.

Riverwolf007

for one the rich parts of society would bypass it easily just like everything else.

.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] you think any system would be 100% effective? look at the planet. it is covered in life. if it's good at nothing else, it's replicating itself, despite hurdled put in it's path :P comp_atkins

for one the rich parts of society would bypass it easily just like everything else.

.

Brita fertility filter

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Disgusting and outrageous.  Those responsible should be sterilized.  

hartsickdiscipl

What could possibly be more fair than to sterilize them?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's also a fantasy

lostrib

people would never do it even if they were stepping over corpses in the street.

but, it would work like a charm.

no it wouldn't.  Unless this is a magic drug that you just pulled out of imagination land.  Not to mention possibilities of getting around this drug or countering it

maybe put it in mountain dew and super cheap beer.

i think the details we could work around.

what we could never work around is how people freak out if you go after their ability to reproduce.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]oh yeah it is totally a stupid little fantasy i can't disagree with that.

people would never do it even if they were stepping over corpses in the street.

but, it would work like a charm.

Riverwolf007

no it wouldn't.  Unless this is a magic drug that you just pulled out of imagination land.  Not to mention possibilities of getting around this drug or countering it

maybe put it in mountain dew and super cheap beer.

i think the details we could work around.

what we could never work around is how people freak out if you go after their ability to reproduce.

Still a terrible plan.  and wouldn't work, don't think there is a lot of moutain dew and cheap beer in the third world

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]nothing would ever be 100% effective.

for one the rich parts of society would bypass it easily just like everything else.

lostrib

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Brita fertility filter