Bill Nye to debate some Creationism dude live tonight

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#1 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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After two weeks of hype about a football game that turned out to be far less exciting than expected and after what feels like two months' worth of reports about wicked winter weather, it's nice to have something completely different to talk about — even if it's a topic that sparks heated discussion:

Tonight at 7 p.m. ET, it's evolution vs. creationism when Bill Nye "the science guy" and Ken Ham, founder of the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., debate onstage (and live online, for free, here and here).

More here: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/04/271383099/creationism-vs-evolution-the-debate-is-live-tonight

Should be pretty funny but I really think Bill should not have agreed to this lol seems like a waste of his time + arguing with Creationists is an exercise in futility.

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#2  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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Ugh. They aren't going to convert anyone, either way. I like Bill Nye, but he'd have more success debating a brick wall, which would be just as stubborn but at least more intelligent.

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#3 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Some creationism dude? I think you mean The Legendary Ken Ham.

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#4  Edited By Wilfred_Owen
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I just rather watch this.

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#5 HoolaHoopMan
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Ken Ham is the king of Tw@ts. People need to stop debating creationists as it only seems to give them a platform to spew their bullshit. Better to ignore and laugh at these people.

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#6 lamprey263
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Superbowl not exciting? Must have not been a Seahawks fan I guess.

Nonetheless, this Bill Nye and Ken Ham debate should be interesting.

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#7 deeliman
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Don't know who either of them are.

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#8 ferrari2001
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I can't for the love of me figure out why people still don't believe in evolution.

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#9  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@deeliman said:

Don't know who either of them are.

You don't know Bill Nye? Damn that sucks man, he was the best part of elementary school Science class.

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#10 lamprey263
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@Aljosa23 said:

@deeliman said:

Don't know who either of them are.

You don't know Bill Nye? Damn that sucks man, he was the best part of elementary school Science class.

I think some people here might be too young to know who Bill Nye was.

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@lamprey263 said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@deeliman said:

Don't know who either of them are.

You don't know Bill Nye? Damn that sucks man, he was the best part of elementary school Science class.

I think some people here might be too young to know who Bill Nye was.

Or just not from an English speaking country.

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#12  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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@ferrari2001 said:

I can't for the love of me figure out why people still don't believe in evolution.

It really is baffling. I can at least understand the "logic" behind intelligent design, but creationism is just totally ridiculous.

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#13  Edited By deactivated-598fc45371265
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@ferrari2001 said:

I can't for the love of me figure out why people still don't believe in evolution.

To be fair, it's not a pressing issue in day to day life for most people.

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@Aljosa23 said:

After two weeks of hype about a football game that turned out to be far less exciting than expected

How do you know, were you there?

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Seahawks delivered :)

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@dave123321 said:

Seahawks delivered :)

How do you know, were you there?

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@Storm_Marine said:
@Aljosa23 said:

After two weeks of hype about a football game that turned out to be far less exciting than expected

How do you know, were you there?

How do you know otherwise were you there

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@Aljosa23 said:

@Storm_Marine said:
@Aljosa23 said:

After two weeks of hype about a football game that turned out to be far less exciting than expected

How do you know, were you there?

How do you know otherwise were you there

I was and I didn't see you.

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LOL religion.

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#20  Edited By lostrib
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It seems like this should be a short debate

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#21 ferrari2001
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@lostrib said:

It seems like this should be a short debate

Oh don't worry Ham will make it far longer than it needs to be.

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@lostrib said:

It seems like this should be a short debate

There shouldn't even be a debate at all.

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#23  Edited By lostrib
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@ferrari2001 said:

@lostrib said:

It seems like this should be a short debate

Oh don't worry Ham will make it far longer than it needs to be.

Is this the guy that has people living with dinosaurs?

Edit: nvm, I'm thinking of Kent Hovind

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@ferrari2001 said:

I can't for the love of me figure out why people still don't believe in evolution.

I think its not about just religion anymore. I think this debate lends itself to a larger human debate about our perspectives 'sharing vs ownership' of things. Ourselves, products, technology, ideas etc.

Our understanding of our origins can influence to some degree what side of the debate a person falls on.

We see it in creationism vs evolution. We see it in the debate of capitalism vs communism, we see it in debates about copyright, and artistic debates about sampled music vs traditionally played music.

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#25  Edited By lostrib
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@deeliman said:

@lostrib said:

It seems like this should be a short debate

There shouldn't even be a debate at all.

I'm hoping it goes kind of like Jon Stewart on Crossfire

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#26 dave123321
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This kind of stuff is old hat for OT so more of the same to talk about

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#27  Edited By dave123321
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Watching now

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#28 ferrari2001
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Oh God, a 30 min presentation by Ken Ham. No way I'll be able to survive through that.

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@ferrari2001: learn how to listen to others even if you don't agree. Follow Nyes ideal

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#30  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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Legit hurts listening to these people.

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#31 deeliman
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Maybe if any of those young earth scientists in his presentation showed any evidence in favor of creationism he's have a point.

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Why use public school books as evidence

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**** **** **** this ducking bullshit ****

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#34 SaintLeonidas
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If that dude who studies astronomy really believes in creationism then his degree should be revoked.

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@dave123321 said:

**** **** **** this ducking bullshit ****

"learn how to listen to others even if you don't agree. Follow Nyes ideal"

-dave123321

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My ideals were destroyed pretty quickly

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You can be a religious astronomer, nothing wrong with that

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#38  Edited By deeliman
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This is just painful to watch

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@dave123321 said:

@ferrari2001: learn how to listen to others even if you don't agree. Follow Nyes ideal

Oh I know how to listen, doesn't mean it isn't painful or isn't going to kill me. Like I'm seriously embarrassed for Ken right now, he's an embarrassment to the idea of science.

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Although I am listening

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#41  Edited By The-Apostle
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Ken Ham >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Nye

>_>

*Runs*

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Currently watching and cringing.

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I am struggling to see how any of this is evidence against evolution

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Or even just a refutation of any of its ideas

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#45 SaintLeonidas
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"God invented marriage"...Bill, please, just punch this fucker on the temple.

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Why is he using the bible to prove things in the bible

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I weep for my state

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@SaintLeonidas said:

"God invented marriage"...Bill, please, just punch this fucker on the temple.

I haven't been watching it, but I assume the debate is wildly off topic?

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Every time Ken Ham opens his mouth...

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@Storm_Marine said:

@SaintLeonidas said:

"God invented marriage"...Bill, please, just punch this fucker on the temple.

I haven't been watching it, but I assume the debate is wildly off topic?

No it's been on topic. However towards the end of his presentation he concluded that by ignoring the biblical account of creation as more ramifications than just belief in evolution.