BBC: More than 10 Palestinians killed in an Israeli strike on thier house
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] ...lordreavenMaybe HAMAS should stop bombing Israel..... Maybe both should stop bombing each other......... That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire....
That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire....[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Maybe both should stop bombing each other.........tenaka2
I think it would only stop if both sides ceased fire.
Duh....if HAMAS stops Israel will. But Israel isn't going to stop if HAMAS doesn't.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Well, you got evicted by the Romans because you went into Rebellion 3 times and got your asses promptly handed to you and then the Romans said "Well, we're not going to allow a 4th time to happen". Perhaps if you played nice there wouldn't be a such a big issue.lordreavenso whats your point? My point is your ancestors are the reason you got kicked out of the region. And there are more justifiable claims to that land than the Jewish people, and the Romans did you a favour, they could have just killed all of you like they did in other rebellious regions.
Oh. The Romans occupied the land and we weren't allowed to rebel but the Palestinians are allowed to do so against an "occupying" force?
[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]... Maybe HAMAS should stop bombing Israel..... i realised long ago how full of **** you are.[QUOTE="GazaAli"]My next door neighbors' son just arrived to their house in a coffin, we used to play together when we were kids. Dunno what to say really.LJS9502_basic
Maybe HAMAS should stop bombing Israel..... i realised long ago how full of **** you are. LOL because I don't drink the brainwash kool aid as you do.....[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] ...
GrayF0X786
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire....LJS9502_basic
I think it would only stop if both sides ceased fire.
Duh....if HAMAS stops Israel will. But Israel isn't going to stop if HAMAS doesn't.First off I think both sides are at fault. So do you think HAMAS won't stop even Israel does?
That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire....[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Maybe both should stop bombing each other.........tenaka2
I think it would only stop if both sides ceased fire.
Israel already agreed to stop if Hamas stops. The whole reason for the air offensive is to stop Hamas attacks. It's not really working, but the alternative -- doing nothing -- is even worse.Duh....if HAMAS stops Israel will. But Israel isn't going to stop if HAMAS doesn't.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
I think it would only stop if both sides ceased fire.
tenaka2
First off I think both sides are at fault. So do you think HAMAS won't stop even Israel does?
Right. That is what I think...Duh....if HAMAS stops Israel will. But Israel isn't going to stop if HAMAS doesn't.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
I think it would only stop if both sides ceased fire.
tenaka2
First off I think both sides are at fault. So do you think HAMAS won't stop even Israel does?
its not just about Hamas, there are a whole bunch of groups there, and each one does what it wants. you can sign whatever you want but if one of those groups doesn't agree, the whole thing unravels. although even in regards to Hamas they will want to fire the last shot, just so they can claim victory (wheter thats justified or not is something else)It's not even about eliminating Hamas. To permanently stop Hamas, Israel has to kill every Hamas member, as well as anyone who wishes to join them (even if they are not Hamas right now). The source has to be cut off.
And if Israel does that, you can bet your ass that the international community will be up in arms.
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Duh....if HAMAS stops Israel will. But Israel isn't going to stop if HAMAS doesn't.LJS9502_basic
First off I think both sides are at fault. So do you think HAMAS won't stop even Israel does?
Right. That is what I think... IDF won't stop. They told civilians to reach for the center to be safe which they're now bombing They've already abandoned their defensive stance and are on the offence. Stop getting fooled by their politically correct PR and all the "WE WANT TO SAVE EVERY LIFE" BS.people forget its not just Hamas, Islamic Jihad for instance is a threat too , Hamas didn't really want to deal with them for various reasons. in fact Islamic Jihad could actually pose a risk to Hamas' rule in Gaza, the weaker Hamas gets in this.It's not even about eliminating Hamas. To permanently stop Hamas, Israel has to kill every Hamas member, as well as anyone who wishes to join them (even if they are not Hamas right now).
And if Israel does that, you can bet your ass that the international community will be up in arms.
th3warr1or
[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Maybe HAMAS should stop bombing Israel.....LJS9502_basicMaybe both should stop bombing each other......... That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire.... Israel started THIS* whole mess.
They bombed a Hamas leaders location, an Palestinian child died, Hamas Fired Rockets back, Israel killed one of the big heads for Hamas and TA-DA, a new war, right before Israels next election no less.......
*This meaning this current scuffle
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]Right. That is what I think... IDF won't stop. They told civilians to reach for the center to be safe which they're now bombing They've already abandoned their defensive stance and are on the offence. Stop getting fooled by their politically correct PR and all the "WE WANT TO SAVE EVERY LIFE" BS. Sure they will. They live in a community and don't want to create diplomatic problems with the west. HAMAS is not concerned with that. In fact, some ME nations will applaud them for this course of action.First off I think both sides are at fault. So do you think HAMAS won't stop even Israel does?
kalparun
And Europe was Genocidal to EVERYONE, how many Tartars are around today? Or Huns, or Goths, or Pomeranian's, or Prussians (not the German speaking ones, those are the "new" Prussians). Don't forget the Maghreb's in Sicily, the Moors in Granada (A Prime Example of people being forced out of their homes). Notice a pattern here? Europe HATES everyone, not just the Jews.lordreaven
Those are "gone" because of assimilation and interbreding, not genocide.
The Goths migrated all over Europe, and founded several kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula. Some Hungarians claim Hunnic heritage. Nobody committed genocide against the Goths or Huns. In fact, they were the dominant forces of their respective eras.
They're gone as a people, but they certainly weren't exterminated.
And seriously, just because Europe hates anyone doesn't really make it better.
That would be the result of HAMAS ceasing fire.... Israel started THIS* whole mess.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Maybe both should stop bombing each other.........lordreaven
They bombed a Hamas leaders location, an Palestinian child died, Hamas Fired Rockets back, Israel killed one of the big heads for Hamas and TA-DA, a new war, right before Israels next election no less.......
*This meaning this current scuffle
They assassinated Ja'abari because since the start of 2012, there have been over one thousand rockets fired from Gaza into Israel. So no, when did this conflict start? Early 2012, not November. Israel just didn't retaliate until now.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="kalparun"] IDF won't stop. They told civilians to reach for the center to be safe which they're now bombing They've already abandoned their defensive stance and are on the offence. Stop getting fooled by their politically correct PR and all the "WE WANT TO SAVE EVERY LIFE" BS.kalparunSure they will. They live in a community and don't want to create diplomatic problems with the west. HAMAS is not concerned with that. In fact, some ME nations will applaud them for this course of action. Create diplomatic problems with the west? This entire event started because Israel violated a ceasefire that Hamas had agreed to starting on November 13th by bombing and killing the leader of Hamas days later. Israel also killed 4 Palestinian civilians back in March and a young Palestinian boy in Gaza about a week prior, and does regular incursions into Palestinian territory. You really think they're concerned about diplomatic problems? Either you have no idea what you're talking about or you're a brainwashed jew m8.
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Israel violated a ceasefire? You mean the ceasefire that the Hamas were honoring by firing hundreds of rockets since the start of the year?
[QUOTE="lordreaven"]And Europe was Genocidal to EVERYONE, how many Tartars are around today? Or Huns, or Goths, or Pomeranian's, or Prussians (not the German speaking ones, those are the "new" Prussians). Don't forget the Maghreb's in Sicily, the Moors in Granada (A Prime Example of people being forced out of their homes). Notice a pattern here? Europe HATES everyone, not just the Jews.th3warr1or
Those are "gone" because of assimilation and interbreding, not genocide.
The Goths migrated all over Europe, and founded several kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula. Some Hungarians claim Hunnic heritage. Nobody committed genocide against the Goths or Huns. In fact, they were the dominant forces of their respective eras.
They're gone as a people, but they certainly weren't exterminated.
And seriously, just because Europe hates anyone doesn't really make it better.
BTW, Genocide doesn't mean you have to kill ALL the population, just enough that they end up interbreeding with the community and their culture dies. France is trying to have the Bretons integrate by forcing them to learn French since Breton is their cultural binding, like how it was for the people who speak Occitan in southern France. The example i provided was Cultural genocide. And the Hungarians actually didn't accept the Hunic culture, they are still their own and the only reason we call them Hungarians is the reason they live in the land the Huns claimed. Prussian was a combination of extermination and interbreeding. The Interbreeding was intended. There was no other goal than to make the Prussian people German. You either intermingled or died. And Yes, Europe hates everyone, the Jewish people just so happened to be picked out at one big occasions...along with the Slavs.[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]And Europe was Genocidal to EVERYONE, how many Tartars are around today? Or Huns, or Goths, or Pomeranian's, or Prussians (not the German speaking ones, those are the "new" Prussians). Don't forget the Maghreb's in Sicily, the Moors in Granada (A Prime Example of people being forced out of their homes). Notice a pattern here? Europe HATES everyone, not just the Jews.lordreaven
Those are "gone" because of assimilation and interbreding, not genocide.
The Goths migrated all over Europe, and founded several kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula. Some Hungarians claim Hunnic heritage. Nobody committed genocide against the Goths or Huns. In fact, they were the dominant forces of their respective eras.
They're gone as a people, but they certainly weren't exterminated.
And seriously, just because Europe hates anyone doesn't really make it better.
BTW, Genocide doesn't mean you have to kill ALL the population, just enough that they end up interbreeding with the community and their culture dies. France is trying to have the Bretons integrate by forcing them to learn French since Breton is their cultural binding, like how it was for the people who speak Occitan in southern France. The example i provided was Cultural genocide. And the Hungarians actually didn't accept the Hunic culture, they are still their own and the only reason we call them Hungarians is the reason they live in the land the Huns claimed. Prussian was a combination of extermination and interbreeding. The Interbreeding was intended. There was no other goal than to make the Prussian people German. You either intermingled or died. And Yes, Europe hates everyone, the Jewish people just so happened to be picked out at one big occasions...along with the Slavs.Genocide may not mean killing ALL the population, but the people who carried out the Holocaust did (and still do) NOT want Jews to interbreed in the community.
[QUOTE="lordreaven"] And then your last point. Oh ho ho, my friend. I didn't throw your people out, nor did my ancestors (Celtic FTW). And Europe was Genocidal to EVERYONE, how many Tartars are around today? Or Huns, or Goths, or Pomeranian's, or Prussians (not the German speaking ones, those are the "new" Prussians). Don't forget the Maghreb's in Sicily, the Moors in Granada (A Prime Example of people being forced out of their homes). Notice a pattern here? Europe HATES everyone, not just the Jews.LJS9502_basicEvery group of people has fought to get necessary land and resources. However, those groups have assimilated with the dominant group that took their land. History much?
Well to be fair a lot of genocide took place and the remaining few assimilated, you make it sound like a clean transition, it never is.
Every group of people has fought to get necessary land and resources. However, those groups have assimilated with the dominant group that took their land. History much?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] And then your last point. Oh ho ho, my friend. I didn't throw your people out, nor did my ancestors (Celtic FTW). And Europe was Genocidal to EVERYONE, how many Tartars are around today? Or Huns, or Goths, or Pomeranian's, or Prussians (not the German speaking ones, those are the "new" Prussians). Don't forget the Maghreb's in Sicily, the Moors in Granada (A Prime Example of people being forced out of their homes). Notice a pattern here? Europe HATES everyone, not just the Jews.tenaka2
Well to be fair a lot of genocide took place and the remaining few assimilated, you make it sound like a clean transition, it never is.
Fighting for resources is not necessarily genocide.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="kalparun"] Are you seriously citing Israel on what their enemy did to them?kalparunYou're citing Palestine....it's only fair. But I'll be fair....show me news reports stating Palestine sent no rockets into Israel in 2012. I'll wait.... I'm not supporting Palestine here. You're the one implying Israel is the Virgin Mary in this. I want you to wonder for me, why did they sent rockets in Israel in the first place? Let's discover history together.Depending on how far back one wants to go......we can trace the land to Israel. So I guess it depends on what arbitrary line you want to draw. Though I'd rather deal with 2012. Israel is there and the ME should deal with that. Move on from that point and stop fighting over the land.
That's the only way their will be peace. And yes....you are supporting one side here. I'd rather they learned to co-exist.
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Every group of people has fought to get necessary land and resources. However, those groups have assimilated with the dominant group that took their land. History much?LJS9502_basic
Well to be fair a lot of genocide took place and the remaining few assimilated, you make it sound like a clean transition, it never is.
Fighting for resources is not necessarily genocide.No, but genocide often results in the fight for resources.
Fighting for resources is not necessarily genocide.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
Well to be fair a lot of genocide took place and the remaining few assimilated, you make it sound like a clean transition, it never is.
tenaka2
No, but genocide often results in the fight for resources.
I think you use the word genocide a bit too easily.....Please Log In to post.
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