BBC: More than 10 Palestinians killed in an Israeli strike on thier house

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#-49 Posted by C2N2 (759 posts) -

Meh... If you think you can just plot death and destruction to Israeli civilians during the day, even fire a rocket maybe, and then just go home at night like terrorism is some kind of day job... AND your family is ok with you shooting rockets into residential neighborhoods, then I don't really care if Israel blows you, your house, and your family up. I highly doubt Israel dropped a JDAM on a house by mistake given the high amount of precision it has, cost, etc...

If the Palestinian community wants Israel to stop shooting at them then they should themselves act to keep Hamas from shooting at Israel. Israel can and will shoot back. The sooner those idiots realize that Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign nation, whether they agree with it or not, the better off they will be. It isn't going anywhere.

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#-48 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

ehhh it was mention in the article there were hamas offcials in some houses. dont get when gaza says they blow down the house to kill some family member.

TheShadowLord07
From OP ". I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target" smh
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#-47 Posted by thebest31406 (3775 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

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ShadowMoses900

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

What if you started the fight by killing a kid? Isn't this why Hamas fired rockets in the first place?
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#-46 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

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GazaAli

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

Is it possible that you are so delerious that you truly believe people hate Israel and fire at it because they are "enemies of democracy", "terrorists", "militants"...etc I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?

lets be honest though , Hamas and the others aren't firing rockets because the border to Gaza is closed , or because there are Jews living in Hebron , its because there are Jews living in Tel Aviv.

when Hamas talks about "the occupation" they mean the occupation of Jaffa and Tel Aviv, and Im not sure how people realise this.

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#-45 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

Meh... If you think you can just plot death and destruction to Israeli civilians during the day, even fire a rocket maybe, and then just go home at night like terrorism is some kind of day job... AND your family is ok with you shooting rockets into residential neighborhoods, then I don't really care if Israel blows you, your house, and your family up. I highly doubt Israel dropped a JDAM on a house by mistake given the high amount of precision it has, cost, etc...

If the Palestinian community wants Israel to stop shooting at them then they should themselves act to keep Hamas from shooting at Israel. Israel can and will shoot back. The sooner those idiots realize that Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign nation, whether they agree with it or not, the better off they will be. It isn't going anywhere.

C2N2
Since Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign state, shouldn't it comply with international humanitarian law and basic human rights decency?
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#-44 Posted by br0kenrabbit (15152 posts) -

So basically, an Israeli F-16 fighter leveled a house to the ground with the whole family inside. I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target. What do you think? Does the end justify the mean? Is it ok to take down entire families to get to a target? And no, this is not "they hide among civillians", usually the target is just a family member.

GazaAli

Palestinians fire rockets into civilian populations that they can't even aim. They aren't targeting military targets, they aren't targeting anything, they're just trying to do whatever damage they can to whoever they can.

If you call out one side, you gotta call out the other.

Both sides are wrong here.

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#-43 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

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GazaAli

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

Is it possible that you are so delerious that you truly believe people hate Israel and fire at it because they are "enemies of democracy", "terrorists", "militants"...etc I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?

I see Israel as a group of people who have been beaten down and put on the brink of extinction and have finally gotten a homeland of their own and are simply fighting for survival and democracy.

Sure Israel has done some things I disagree with like blocking aid ships, but I also disagree with my own country the US on things, and I disagree with the UK and Canada on things etc....but I know what countries are on the right side of history, and Israel is one of them. Israel has every right to exist whether you like it or not.

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#-42 Posted by Perfect_Blue (30138 posts) -

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

ShadowMoses900

I think it's absolutely hilarious how you claim "it's not that simple" but then go ahead and generalize everyone that doesn't bend over for Israel and call them "anti-Israel". I think you need to go outside.

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#-41 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

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thebest31406

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

What if you started the fight by killing a kid? Isn't this why Hamas fired rockets in the first place?

there were rockets being fired all the time long before this.

the reason Hamas fires rockets is ultimately because there are Jews in Tel Aviv, even if right now they are interested in governing instead (power corrupts)

the other groups are even more so.

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#-40 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

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thebest31406

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

What if you started the fight by killing a kid? Isn't this why Hamas fired rockets in the first place?

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

Israel didn't start the fight, they merely settled there, in fact the early Jewish settlers bought land from the Arabs.

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#-39 Posted by thebest31406 (3775 posts) -
It's high time I start AdBlocking some of these filthy people. Just pure, gangster filth.
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#-38 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

Darkman2007

Is it possible that you are so delerious that you truly believe people hate Israel and fire at it because they are "enemies of democracy", "terrorists", "militants"...etc I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?

lets be honest though , Hamas and the others aren't firing rockets because the border to Gaza is closed , or because there are Jews living in Hebron , its because there are Jews living in Tel Aviv.

when Hamas talks about "the occupation" they mean the occupation of Jaffa and Tel Aviv, and Im not sure how people realise this.

Yea let's be honest, there is a huge difference between what Palestinian figures say to people and what they believe in. There is no sane Palestinian politician/figure regardless of its party that actually believes we should wipe Israel out. They realize it, and just use the speech for popularity and to basically put PA and Fateh in the corner in the eyes of people.
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#-37 Posted by TheShadowLord07 (23040 posts) -

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ehhh it was mention in the article there were hamas offcials in some houses. dont get when gaza says they blow down the house to kill some family member.

GazaAli

From OP ". I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target" smh

US drones have been know to kill civilians as well. does that mean the US were targeting those civilians?

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#-36 Posted by Baranga (14217 posts) -

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

ShadowMoses900

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

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#-35 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

ShadowMoses900

Is it possible that you are so delerious that you truly believe people hate Israel and fire at it because they are "enemies of democracy", "terrorists", "militants"...etc I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?

I see Israel as a group of people who have been beaten down and put on the brink of extinction and have finally gotten a homeland of their own and are simply fighting for survival and democracy.

Sure Israel has done some things I disagree with like blocking aid ships, but I also disagree with my own country the US on things, and I disagree with the UK and Canada on things etc....but I know what countries are on the right side of history, and Israel is one of them. Israel has every right to exist whether you like it or not.

I currently don't give two fvcks about what the Jews went through in the diaspora really, its not my problem since its not my doing. And Israel did some bad things like blocking aid ships? really? REALLY?
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#-34 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -
It's high time I start AdBlocking some of these filthy people. Just pure, gangster filth.thebest31406
...Nobody here is "pure, gangster filth"....
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#-33 Posted by thebest31406 (3775 posts) -

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not that simple, the anti-Israel crowd on here are just dumb kids that are trying to be "cool" by going against what they see as "The Man". If the US backed Palestine instead I can gurantee you that you would be supporting Israel instead.

If someone was firing a gun at your house from your back yard would you just stand by and allow you and your family to remain in danger? You call the cops, but what if they don't want to help you? You are on your own, surely you wouldn't just sit back and allow it to happen.

ShadowMoses900

What if you started the fight by killing a kid? Isn't this why Hamas fired rockets in the first place?

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

Israel didn't start the fight, they merely settled there, in fact the early Jewish settlers bought land from the Arabs.

No genius, I'm talking about this recent fight. 2 rockets were fired into a hotel as a result of members of the IDF killing a kid.
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#-32 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

Baranga

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

Okay..we know Arabs are semites too...but I think it's clear that he was using anti-Semitic to refer to hatred of Jews..don't bring this up dude. Useless.
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#-31 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

ehhh it was mention in the article there were hamas offcials in some houses. dont get when gaza says they blow down the house to kill some family member.

TheShadowLord07

From OP ". I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target" smh

US drones have been know to kill civilians as well. does that mean the US were targeting those civilians?

Reading comprehension lol. I did not say anywhere that Israel specifically targets civilians, although it did quite many times (2009 anyone?), I rather said that they would not hesitate to take down so many civilians in order to eliminate a target.
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#-30 Posted by C2N2 (759 posts) -

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Meh... If you think you can just plot death and destruction to Israeli civilians during the day, even fire a rocket maybe, and then just go home at night like terrorism is some kind of day job... AND your family is ok with you shooting rockets into residential neighborhoods, then I don't really care if Israel blows you, your house, and your family up. I highly doubt Israel dropped a JDAM on a house by mistake given the high amount of precision it has, cost, etc...

If the Palestinian community wants Israel to stop shooting at them then they should themselves act to keep Hamas from shooting at Israel. Israel can and will shoot back. The sooner those idiots realize that Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign nation, whether they agree with it or not, the better off they will be. It isn't going anywhere.

GazaAli

Since Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign state, shouldn't it comply with international humanitarian law and basic human rights decency?

Sure if the aid they allow to get into the Gaza Strip isn't used to build weapons to kill Israelis.

I am not defending Israel, I think they are stupid... What they are doing with the settlements in the West Bank is retarded and there will never be agreements with that bullsh-t... But Israel is simply trying to protect itself... People act like Israel is some kind of crazed state hell bent on killing all Arabs... They do what they do in Gaza because YOUR people ELECTED a group that has the pronounced goal of destroying the state of Israel to public office.

How would you feel if the "KILL ALL PALESTINIANS" Party took a majority in the Knesset?

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#-29 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Is it possible that you are so delerious that you truly believe people hate Israel and fire at it because they are "enemies of democracy", "terrorists", "militants"...etc I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?GazaAli

lets be honest though , Hamas and the others aren't firing rockets because the border to Gaza is closed , or because there are Jews living in Hebron , its because there are Jews living in Tel Aviv.

when Hamas talks about "the occupation" they mean the occupation of Jaffa and Tel Aviv, and Im not sure how people realise this.

Yea let's be honest, there is a huge difference between what Palestinian figures say to people and what they believe in. There is no sane Palestinian politician/figure regardless of its party that actually believes we should wipe Israel out. They realize it, and just use the speech for popularity and to basically put PA and Fateh in the corner in the eyes of people.

its either they want to do it , or not, I mean yeah , ideologically Hamas would have big issues with agreeing to anything concrete , but ultimately its not a smart thing to do.
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#-28 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -
Aljosa23
I think it's clear you have little to no understanding of this conflict.
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#-27 Posted by thebest31406 (3775 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

ehhh it was mention in the article there were hamas offcials in some houses. dont get when gaza says they blow down the house to kill some family member.

TheShadowLord07

From OP ". I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target" smh

US drones have been know to kill civilians as well. does that mean the US were targeting those civilians?

Not necessarily. What it means is that if drones are know to kill more civilians than actual "terrorist" then it's time to use another approach.
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#-26 Posted by Perfect_Blue (30138 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]kingkong0124
I think it's clear you have little to no understanding of this conflict.

I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.

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#-25 Posted by TheShadowLord07 (23040 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] From OP ". I prefer to keep it real, they probably wanted someone in the house. IDF repeatedly demolished houses with their inhabitants inside, women, children, basically families in order to eliminate a target" smhGazaAli

US drones have been know to kill civilians as well. does that mean the US were targeting those civilians?

Reading comprehension lol. I did not say anywhere that Israel specifically targets civilians, although it did quite many times (2009 anyone?), I rather said that they would not hesitate to take down so many civilians in order to eliminate a target.

im only going by the sentence where you said" no, this is not "they hide among civillians", usually the target is just a family member."

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#-24 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Aljosa23

I think it's clear you have little to no understanding of this conflict.

I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.

What a witty response.
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#-23 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

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Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

Baranga

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

Technically yes, Arabs are semites too, Jews and Arabs are related. However the dictionary definition applies semites and anti-semites to those of Jewish descent, that is the official definition. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't argue with the dictionary.

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#-22 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"] What if you started the fight by killing a kid? Isn't this why Hamas fired rockets in the first place?thebest31406

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

Israel didn't start the fight, they merely settled there, in fact the early Jewish settlers bought land from the Arabs.

No genius, I'm talking about this recent fight. 2 rockets were fired into a hotel as a result of members of the IDF killing a kid.

Hamas fires rockets regardless of what the IDF does. The IDF could come with puppies and chocloate, Hamas would still fire rockets at them.

Hamas started this, they started firing on Israel, the IDF just wasn't going to sit by and let it happen.

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#-21 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12605 posts) -

I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?GazaAli

Explain to everyone why 8 Arab nations and armies attacked Israel on the very day of it's formation then. What was Israel supposed to do when that happened? I am not for or against Israel, nor am I for or against any Arab nation. Would you not fight back if you just wanted to live in peace and you were attacked by your neighbors just for existing and on a continuous basis?

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#-20 Posted by PWSteal_Ldpinch (1172 posts) -

Since Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign state, shouldn't it comply with international humanitarian law and basic human rights decency? GazaAli
So you're suggesting that Israel is obligated to put down its weapons while your people are under no obligation to do so. You'd like that wouldn't you Gaza?

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#-19 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="C2N2"]

Meh... If you think you can just plot death and destruction to Israeli civilians during the day, even fire a rocket maybe, and then just go home at night like terrorism is some kind of day job... AND your family is ok with you shooting rockets into residential neighborhoods, then I don't really care if Israel blows you, your house, and your family up. I highly doubt Israel dropped a JDAM on a house by mistake given the high amount of precision it has, cost, etc...

If the Palestinian community wants Israel to stop shooting at them then they should themselves act to keep Hamas from shooting at Israel. Israel can and will shoot back. The sooner those idiots realize that Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign nation, whether they agree with it or not, the better off they will be. It isn't going anywhere.

C2N2

Since Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign state, shouldn't it comply with international humanitarian law and basic human rights decency?

Sure if the aid they allow to get into the Gaza Strip isn't used to build weapons to kill Israelis.

I am not defending Israel, I think they are stupid... What they are doing with the settlements in the West Bank is retarded and there will never be agreements with that bullsh-t... But Israel is simply trying to protect itself... People act like Israel is some kind of crazed state hell bent on killing all Arabs... They do what they do in Gaza because YOUR people ELECTED a group that has the pronounced goal of destroying the state of Israel to public office.

How would you feel if the "KILL ALL PALESTINIANS" Party took a majority in the Knesset?

Well, Lieberman took something like 15 seats in the last election. Anyway, you hit the nail by bringing up the West Bank. Extremism is often the result of decades of oppression and violations against a demography. Look back at the actions of Israel in the past 60 years. The staggering Palestinian death toll, economic loss, land loss, checkpoint regime in the West Bank, Paris protocol, controlling borders, settlements, prisoners, refugees, and the list goes on and on. Tell me, what other possible outcomes can you see?
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#-18 Posted by Perfect_Blue (30138 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I think it's clear you have little to no understanding of this conflict. kingkong0124

I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.

What a witty response.

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#-17 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -

[QUOTE="C2N2"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Since Israel is an internationally recognized sovereign state, shouldn't it comply with international humanitarian law and basic human rights decency? GazaAli

Sure if the aid they allow to get into the Gaza Strip isn't used to build weapons to kill Israelis.

I am not defending Israel, I think they are stupid... What they are doing with the settlements in the West Bank is retarded and there will never be agreements with that bullsh-t... But Israel is simply trying to protect itself... People act like Israel is some kind of crazed state hell bent on killing all Arabs... They do what they do in Gaza because YOUR people ELECTED a group that has the pronounced goal of destroying the state of Israel to public office.

How would you feel if the "KILL ALL PALESTINIANS" Party took a majority in the Knesset?

Well, Lieberman took something like 15 seats in the last election. Anyway, you hit the nail by bringing up the West Bank. Extremism is often the result of decades of oppression and violations against a demography. Look back at the actions of Israel in the past 60 years. The staggering Palestinian death toll, economic loss, land loss, checkpoint regime in the West Bank, Paris protocol, controlling borders, settlements, prisoners, refugees, and the list goes on and on. Tell me, what other possible outcomes can you see?

I was wondering, why didn't the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza rebel against Egypt and Jordan at the time? Pan Arabism?

and Im not even sure waht Lieberman's position on this is, he says 2 things.

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#-16 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]I mean look at Israel and its actions in the past 60 years or so, can you see any other possible outcome?WhiteKnight77

Explain to everyone why 8 Arab nations and armies attacked Israel on the very day of it's formation then. What was Israel supposed to do when that happened? I am not for or against Israel, nor am I for or against any Arab nation. Would you not fight back if you just wanted to live in peace and you were attacked by your neighbors just for existing and on a continuous basis?

What happened in 1948 is a different story. Israel began as a foreign entity to the region and for that it was rejected. I'm not going to go into whether it had the right to exist or not. After that Israel basically took control of all Palestinian territories and continued to deny them their rights.
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#-15 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.

Aljosa23

What a witty response.

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Lebron sucks. The Knicks are winning it all this year.
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#-14 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="C2N2"]

Sure if the aid they allow to get into the Gaza Strip isn't used to build weapons to kill Israelis.

I am not defending Israel, I think they are stupid... What they are doing with the settlements in the West Bank is retarded and there will never be agreements with that bullsh-t... But Israel is simply trying to protect itself... People act like Israel is some kind of crazed state hell bent on killing all Arabs... They do what they do in Gaza because YOUR people ELECTED a group that has the pronounced goal of destroying the state of Israel to public office.

How would you feel if the "KILL ALL PALESTINIANS" Party took a majority in the Knesset?

Darkman2007

Well, Lieberman took something like 15 seats in the last election. Anyway, you hit the nail by bringing up the West Bank. Extremism is often the result of decades of oppression and violations against a demography. Look back at the actions of Israel in the past 60 years. The staggering Palestinian death toll, economic loss, land loss, checkpoint regime in the West Bank, Paris protocol, controlling borders, settlements, prisoners, refugees, and the list goes on and on. Tell me, what other possible outcomes can you see?

I was wondering, why didn't the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza rebel against Egypt and Jordan at the time? Pan Arabism?

and Im not even sure waht Lieberman's position on this is, he says 2 things.

Isn;t Lieberman all for deporting Arab Israelis? I'm sure he is, or at least was.
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#-13 Posted by Baranga (14217 posts) -

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hamas is anti-semitic, they fire rockets at Jews because they want to kill them regardless.

ShadowMoses900

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

Technically yes, Arabs are semites too, Jews and Arabs are related. However the dictionary definition applies semites and anti-semites to those of Jewish descent, that is the official definition. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't argue with the dictionary.

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

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#-12 Posted by Perfect_Blue (30138 posts) -

Lebron sucks. The Knicks are winning it all this year. kingkong0124

I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.Aljosa23

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#-11 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]Lebron sucks. The Knicks are winning it all this year. Aljosa23

I think it's clear you have no understanding on anything.Aljosa23

Jokes, obviously.
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#-10 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

Baranga

Technically yes, Arabs are semites too, Jews and Arabs are related. However the dictionary definition applies semites and anti-semites to those of Jewish descent, that is the official definition. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't argue with the dictionary.

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

Oy Vey now it's the Zionists again, do these conspiracies ever stop?

I hear this all the time from people on the internet.

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#-9 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Well, Lieberman took something like 15 seats in the last election. Anyway, you hit the nail by bringing up the West Bank. Extremism is often the result of decades of oppression and violations against a demography. Look back at the actions of Israel in the past 60 years. The staggering Palestinian death toll, economic loss, land loss, checkpoint regime in the West Bank, Paris protocol, controlling borders, settlements, prisoners, refugees, and the list goes on and on. Tell me, what other possible outcomes can you see?GazaAli

I was wondering, why didn't the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza rebel against Egypt and Jordan at the time? Pan Arabism?

and Im not even sure waht Lieberman's position on this is, he says 2 things.

Isn;t Lieberman all for deporting Arab Israelis? I'm sure he is, or at least was.

there was something like that, but again it was all over the place. I remember him saying something like moving the border a bit to include a whole bunch of Arab villages which sit along the West Bank , but are in Israel. the people that should worry you more are Kahanists. he does, in principle, support the 2 states ,but he is very sketcy on it. its quite ironic because on social issues he is very much a secular liberal.
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#-8 Posted by DroidPhysX (17098 posts) -
hey kk i hear Alabama is no.2 and going to the title game if they win out also I would worry if I were Palestine given Americas willingness to bend over for an Israeli pounding.
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#-7 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Technically yes, Arabs are semites too, Jews and Arabs are related. However the dictionary definition applies semites and anti-semites to those of Jewish descent, that is the official definition. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't argue with the dictionary.

ShadowMoses900

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

Oy Vey now it's the Zionists again, do these conspiracies ever stop?

I hear this all the time from people on the internet.

What conspiracies?
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#-6 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]hey kk i hear Alabama is no.2 and going to the title game if they win out also I would worry if I were Palestine given Americas willingness to bend over for an Israeli pounding.

rofl
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#-5 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Why would semites be anti-semitic?

Baranga

Technically yes, Arabs are semites too, Jews and Arabs are related. However the dictionary definition applies semites and anti-semites to those of Jewish descent, that is the official definition. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't argue with the dictionary.

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

no , it was coined by a German racist philosopher in the 19th Century, went by the name Wilhelm Marr, after which the term became more popular because hatred of Jews went from religous hatred, to racial/ethnic hatred. I just use the term Jew haters , means picky people can't complain about the words.
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#-4 Posted by kingkong0124 (8329 posts) -

hey kk i hear Alabama is no.2 and going to the title game if they win out also I would worry if I were Palestine given Americas willingness to bend over for an Israeli pounding.DroidPhysX

You still have Auburn and Georgia, calm down

And can you stop with all these sexual references?

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#-3 Posted by Darkman2007 (17926 posts) -
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

GazaAli

Oy Vey now it's the Zionists again, do these conspiracies ever stop?

I hear this all the time from people on the internet.

What conspiracies?

something about Anti Semitism being popularised by Jews. when it was invented, and spread, by a German philospher in the 19th century. as far as I see it , its not what one terms it, its what one says.
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#-2 Posted by DroidPhysX (17098 posts) -

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]hey kk i hear Alabama is no.2 and going to the title game if they win out also I would worry if I were Palestine given Americas willingness to bend over for an Israeli pounding.kingkong0124

You still have Auburn and Georgia, calm down

And can you stop with all these sexual references?

Auburn is winless in SEC play. And Georgia gave up 45 to a mediocre Tennessee team, i wouldnt be worried. I am just giving accurate imagery of the relationship between the two countries.
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#-1 Posted by sexyweapons (5302 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Going to happen when your enemy hides in civilian buildings.

Wasdie

Did you read the OP?

Yeah.

It's not worth arguing with you because it's pretty clear you're out to make Israel look like a bunch of savages.

Of course he is...he's Palestinian.

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#0 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

That definition skews perception.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it became widespread during the rise of Zionism.

GazaAli

Oy Vey now it's the Zionists again, do these conspiracies ever stop?

I hear this all the time from people on the internet.

What conspiracies?

There are plenty of anti-semitic conspiracies about Jews on the internet. I hear things about Zionist bankers that control the world, Jews control the media and run hollywood, and how the rise of Zionism started all the wars in the middle east.

It get's so old so fast....