Batman Vs. Superman looks to be a flop.

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#1 LostProphetFLCL
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Rotten Tomatoes

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So the review embargo lifted yesterday, and as more and more early reviews keep pouring in, there seems to be a consensus that the movie is not good. As of making this topic the movie was at a 47 on metacritic and a 39% on rotten tomatoes which is pretty bad.

I had a feeling this one wasn't going to turn out great but was hoping I would be wrong. It sounds like the movie is a bit of a confused mess that tries too hard to be dark. Still looks like I may be seeing it this weekend with friends so I will be able to give my own opinion on it then, but for now all we have are the critic reviews and they are not looking good.

So what do you all think? Are you disappointed? Are these bad reviews going to make you think twice about seeing it in theaters?

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#2 comp_atkins
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probably will not see it in theaters but reviews will not stop me from eventually watching it

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#3  Edited By indzman
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DAY 1 :P

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#4  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Semms like DC's "straight to" animation efforts have been considerably better.

Watched The Dark Knight Returns a few years back, great.

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#5 Riverwolf007
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Dc needs to give up on the regular heros and put their effort into the vertigo line.

It looks to me like they need to lock down a category they can compete in.

They want dark and gritty yet still push superman.

What kind of sense does that make?

The vertigo line is right there in front of them and can't be any darker and grittier.

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#6 ShepardCommandr
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that's what you get for rushing it to compete with marvel

after this bomb i doubt we'll ever get a proper JLA movie

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#7 VFighter
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Going to see it no matter what reviewers say, they've been plenty wrong many times before.

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#8 LJS9502_basic  Online
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@vfighter said:

Going to see it no matter what reviewers say, they've been plenty wrong many times before.

Yep. I decide what something is worth.....don't follow the opinions of others.

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#9 MrGeezer
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@vfighter said:

Going to see it no matter what reviewers say, they've been plenty wrong many times before.

Yep. I decide what something is worth.....don't follow the opinions of others.

I agree. Too bad I won't know what it's worth until after I've paid to see it, though.

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#10  Edited By Boston_Boyy
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I'll probably be seeing it on Saturday anyway, but honestly this is worse than I expected (55-65% range) which is concerning. The fact that Snyder is directing doesn't seem to be helping anything and makes me very concerned about the two-part Justice League is scheduled to direct. Making matters worse, according to some reviews I've seen is the fact the first trailer basically laid out the plot of the film, and there are no 'tricks up the sleeve'.

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#11 neatfeatguy
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Stop watching reviews and see the movie if you're interested. You may like, you may not. Don't base your opinion off what someone else thinks.

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#12 Renevent42
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Supposed to go see this tomorrow in IMAX...well here's hoping they're wrong lol.

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#13  Edited By KHAndAnime
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Can't say I'm surprised. Definitely won't see it in theaters - I stopped supporting comic book movies a long time ago.

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#14 Archangel3371
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I can't say that I'm really too surprised but I am a little disappointed even though I'm not a big DC fan. I do enjoy most of the Batman and Superman stuff so I'll likely still watch this movie.

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@LJS9502_basic: this is why services like Redbox are a godsend. I can see it for a mere $1 and if I don't agree with critics I still got to see the movie and if I DO agree with the bad reviews, well at least I didn't waste $20+ on the pile of crap.

Only reason I am seeing this in theaters is becaude my friends and I are making it part of a weekend of being awesome. I am not excited for this movie but don't think I will hate myself for seeing it (like I would have had I seen something like Annabelle in theaters for instance).

We shall see. I liked Man of Steel more than most seemed too and in general I think Snyder is a solid director.

Definitely a ton of questionable choices made in the casting in this movie and with that awful trailer that essentially killed any excitement I had for the movie...

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Well yeah Ben Affleck's in it for starters.

Secondly they don't fight to the end so I don't care.

@uninspiredcup said:

Semms like DC's "straight to" animation efforts have been considerably better.

Watched The Dark Knight Returns a few years back, great.

Yeah, I also liked Superman vs. the elite.

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#17 MarcRecon
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I'm more of a Marvel guy, but The Bat is one of my favorites in the DC Universe!! He's the only reason I'm going to see it in theaters, other then that, I'd wait for it to come out on Bluray.

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#18 mjorh
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Superhero movies are usually crappy, the only exception is the Nolan's Batman. The Dark Knight is not even a perfect superhero movie but one of the best movies ever ! It set the bar so high.

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#19  Edited By PETERAKO
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Usually people say to ignore the critics, but when not only big critics bash the movie but also the ones that are not proffessionals tell you that you need to be drunk to have a good time then we got a problem.

I enjoy this perticular review IT HAS SPOILERS!!!

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#20 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Snyder has made 2 good movies in his career and DC banked their entire franchise on him.

They made this bed, lay in it

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Damn snyder.

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#22 DaVillain-  Moderator
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I'm not all that too worry here, since I'm off Friday, I already got my advance tickets to go see Batman/Superman anyways and remember that this is the first time Bats & Sups will be together for the first time on the big screen so that's saying something and also remember this, this movie is supposed to be the start of the Justice League movie so this has to be a successful to do so. Once I see the movie this Friday, I'll return to give my opinion on it.

Looking forward to posting those box office numbers this Sunday.

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#23 Atomic1977
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Who really cares what the reviews say? I saw Deadpool and that turned out all right. Im sure Ill maybe see this one.

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#24  Edited By gago-gago
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Still seeing it. There were movies on MetaCritic that didn't really score well but I gave it a chance and I ended up enjoying them. I waited a lifetime to see a live action Batman vs Superman movie and on top of that an introduction to the Justice League. This is it and I'll watch it and enjoy for what it's worth.

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#25 thehig1
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My opinion with movies in particular is normally way off what the critics think.

I'll be seeing this

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#26 AcidTango
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Ouch.

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#27 Catalli  Moderator
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I'll probably see it anyways. I'm curious to see how well Ben Affleck plays Batman.

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#28 LostProphetFLCL
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@Atomic1977 said:

Who really cares what the reviews say? I saw Deadpool and that turned out all right. Im sure Ill maybe see this one.

Umm Deadpool was fairly well received....

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Not sure why people thought it would be good. Man of Steel was horrible. It literally made no sense. Sure its about a super powered alien but other aspects just went full retard.

1. Why didn't superman just fly up and throw his pod at the world engine as it orbitted earth. Solved.

2. Kryptonians sentence the bad guys to an alternate dimension safe from their planet which is about to blow up. Er shouldn't that be the other way around ?

3. When they kamikazi the world engine by flying supermans pod into it creating this black hole where everything is getting sucked in, cars, large pieces of buildings other super powered kryptonians. Lois Lane falls. Seriously what is she made of ? As she falls cars and debris are going UP and Superman has a hard time flying away from it while she unaffected hangs on looking bored.

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#30  Edited By Flubbbs
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Im not interested in seeing it. its still gonna make a shit ton of money no matter what

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#31 TheHighWind
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I've never been interested in this movie.

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#32 SOedipus
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Because Ben Affleck is in it....that's gross....that's racist.

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#33  Edited By LexLas
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I don't care what peeps say, i'm going to try to go first day. Its going to rain money the minute it releases. It will be as good as Baahubali the beginning, which is my fav movie right now.

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#34 Oni
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I might go see it just because I really like Wonder Woman. ;)

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@SOedipus said:

Because Ben Affleck is in it....that's gross....that's racist.

I loled at that. I bet Batman is afraid of Sam Harris....

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@KHAndAnime said:

Can't say I'm surprised. Definitely won't see it in theaters - I stopped supporting comic book movies a long time ago.

Deadpool cleaned up like a month prior...?

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#37 Serraph105  Online
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I never had particularly high expectations for this film so I still intend to go see it.

I'm just hoping the same thing won't happen to suicide squad.

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#38 Kruiz_Bathory
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Still watching it.

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#39  Edited By KHAndAnime
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@chaoscougar1 said:

Deadpool cleaned up like a month prior...?

...and? That movie was pretty lame. If I could lower my standards enough, I could do it, but I can't figure out how...

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#40 Bigfatmistake
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Duh, Snyder is terrible.

@KHAndAnime said:
@chaoscougar1 said:

Deadpool cleaned up like a month prior...?

...and? That movie was pretty lame. If I could lower my standards enough, I could do it, but I can't figure out how...

You like anime, your standards are already rock bottom.

Oh and what exactly was bad about Guardians, DOFP, or Winter Soldier? They were loved by critics and audiences, and I thought they were great. But other than that, yes most comic book movies suck. Just like ANY other genre.

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#41 servomaster
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lol at people making excuses for the flop.

this is why studios keep putting out garbage, because idiots eat it up.

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#43 PSP107
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@Riverwolf007: "They want dark and gritty yet still push superman.What kind of sense does that make?"

I'm not comic purist so what do you mean?

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@PSP107 said:

@Riverwolf007: "They want dark and gritty yet still push superman.What kind of sense does that make?"

I'm not comic purist so what do you mean?

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If you've read the comics or watched the Superman: The Animated Series, Superman is portrayed as more optimistic and bright. Metropolis is shown gleaming and modern and usually whatever is going on, it's during the daytime. The video up above is a great example of the vast difference between Superman and Batman.

The issue is that because of the success of Nolan's Batman, the producers (or whoever is in charge) are assuming that if you make something dark and gritty, it'll automatically be good, ignoring that it depends entirely on the character. It's like having an unpatriotic Captain America or a drama-driven humorless Deadpool. You're ignoring what the character represents and making a drastic and risky change.

IMO, the Justice League Animated series did an incredible job portraying the DC heroes. Superman was still optimistic and bright but has doubts and reservations and even acts on his darker side in an alternative timeline. And even then, it depends entirely on the environment itself.

Sorry for the rant, the whole dark and gritty thing is overrated. Man of Steel was garbage because of the direction. The actors were fine though. The point is, Superman is usually an optimistic force for good. A gritty Superman, however, makes no sense unless there is a clear character development that marks that significant change.

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#45 MrGeezer
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@gamdude said:
@neatfeatguy said:

Stop watching reviews and see the movie if you're interested. You may like, you may not. Don't base your opinion off what someone else thinks.

I totally agree with this, no wonder how many people deicide not to watch some movies after reading movies. My father does the same thing,

Father:- Lets go son to see a XYZ marvel movie.

Me:- Sure.

Father:- Ok wait, let me check review online and also let us see the trailer first.

Me:- Sure.

Father (after reading review) :- Hmm, I think it will be a waste of time. This doesn't seem that of a good movie. I don't know.

Me:- Sure.

To be fair, if a movie is pretty much getting nothing but horrible reviews, it's probably a piece of crap. When it comes to movies, it's pretty uncommon for EVERYONE to be wrong about it.

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#46 dave123321
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Heard good things from people

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#48 horgen  Moderator
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@ianhh6 said:

I'll probably see it anyways. I'm curious to see how well Ben Affleck plays Batman.

I am too... And I guess I'll see Man of Steel first.

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#49  Edited By always_explicit
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I pretty much stream all of my content nowadays and see very little at the cinema. Il wait for this to hit a streaming service and pay a couple of quid to watch it at home rather than £10 a ticket for something hit or miss. Il happily pay to see movies if im excited about them but if not then I wont. If anything my issue is with the extortionate price of going to the cinema in the UK.

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@Skarwolf said:

Not sure why people thought it would be good. Man of Steel was horrible. It literally made no sense. Sure its about a super powered alien but other aspects just went full retard.

1. Why didn't superman just fly up and throw his pod at the world engine as it orbitted earth. Solved.

2. Kryptonians sentence the bad guys to an alternate dimension safe from their planet which is about to blow up. Er shouldn't that be the other way around ?

3. When they kamikazi the world engine by flying supermans pod into it creating this black hole where everything is getting sucked in, cars, large pieces of buildings other super powered kryptonians. Lois Lane falls. Seriously what is she made of ? As she falls cars and debris are going UP and Superman has a hard time flying away from it while she unaffected hangs on looking bored.

Never really considered the second point. Good logic there. What I don't get is why the Bat v Supe movie is dark/gritty. Aren't we marketing this to kids? I'm taking my boy and his friend to see it tomorrow. They are second graders. Why the heck would you make a dark movie if that is a large portion of your target audience?