Australian Army bans male recruits to get female numbers up

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#1 Balrogbane
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The AU army has denied they are banning men from applying, which is true according to ADF recruiters but “Yes they (men) can apply – but only women will get the job.”

Here's a few stories on the whole cringe-fest

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36680260/australian-army-bans-male-recruits/#page1

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australian-army-bans-male-recruits-to-get-female-numbers-up/news-story/69ee9dc1d4f8836e9cca7ca2e3e5680a?nk=5dfc52022e66b2f472fc6e1051126662-1502452186

and a Bearing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h-ZzHzTFM

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Australia is a joke!

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#3 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Well this is the same country that lost a war against some emus.

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Very nice. Giggity.

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#5 superbuuman
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equality quota people! :P

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lol

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I'm an Aussie and this is so freaking dumb I can't actually believe its happening

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It's pretty stupid but so is a lot about this country, not surprising.

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No surprises there.

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How can female soldiers even fight against ISIS ?,They'd be slaughteted or even worse.

AUSTRALIA needs Hardcore tough male soldiers to fight ISIS?

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#13  Edited By deactivated-598fc45371265
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What if there's a giant spider on their apc's steering wheel. What are they going to do without a man nearby to kill it for them?

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@indzman: same way the men do with military training. I'm gonna either assume you were joking, or didn't realize men couldn't fight against either without training. Without training most people would make so many tactical mistakes, get killed or taken hostage, possibly panic, or not have the experience handling military grade weapons their training would provide. Never ever disrespect any military soldiers be they women or men, they're doing things most are too chicken to do. That said this messed up it shouldn't matter if applicants are men or women. We have female soldiers here in america and they do just fine, I would know my cousin served over in Iraq.

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Modern feminism has totally went off-track that its turning entire countries stupid.

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@Celsius765 said:

@indzman: same way the men do with military training. I'm gonna either assume you were joking, or didn't realize men couldn't fight against either without training. Without training most people would make so many tactical mistakes, get killed or taken hostage, possibly panic, or not have the experience handling military grade weapons their training would provide. Never ever disrespect any military soldiers be they women or men, they're doing things most are too chicken to do. That said this messed up it shouldn't matter if applicants are men or women. We have female soldiers here in america and they do just fine, I would know my cousin served over in Iraq.

No they don't. Not equally. It was either this year or last year that your own Marines' studies concluded that female and mixed gender unit performed far more poorly than all-male units in all aspects, including marksmanship. It was even covered by the TYT. Google it. For the record, I'm an ex LEO and firefighter, I've trained and served with female officers. They have the heart, trust me but that alone cannot make up for the simple natural biological differences. Men are simply stronger and better built thus they always came up short in comparison.

Now if they want to serve, yes they should be allowed to TRY and meet the qualifications and standards but when you're banning the other gender simply to meet some arbitrary equality numbers, you are handicapping your military in the most stupid of ways.

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As I recall they also ban certain video games for content so no surprise here.

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#18  Edited By Celsius765
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@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

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based on a News Corp report... well, you might have well just said Breitbart or Alex Jones said so

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@junglist101 said:

As I recall they also ban certain video games for content so no surprise here.

That's not really a thing now, games still get banned, but its very easy to import games, and there's a loophole around importing games.

With digital content as well, its even easier.

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wow. just...wow.

Isn't Australia supposed to be going through their own sort of alt-right hell right now, too? I would think this nonsense would not fly down under

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It must be nice to not have to worry about defending your country from external threats. I can't wait until the US finally figures this out and stops subsidizing the Western World's defense.

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Seems silly if true. If you want to enlist more females, than just increase recruitment efforts towards women.

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@gago-gago: Why can't we have thumbs up buttons in forums?! You'd be on top!

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@balrogbane said:

The AU army has denied they are banning men from applying, which is true according to ADF recruiters but “Yes they (men) can apply – but only women will get the job.”

Here's a few stories on the whole cringe-fest

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36680260/australian-army-bans-male-recruits/#page1

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australian-army-bans-male-recruits-to-get-female-numbers-up/news-story/69ee9dc1d4f8836e9cca7ca2e3e5680a?nk=5dfc52022e66b2f472fc6e1051126662-1502452186

and a Bearing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h-ZzHzTFM

Is this a joke or is this actually true? i have not seen this in any more trustworthy news outlet.

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#26  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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I haven't heard the entire story so I'm not going to jump to conclusions... I'm not going to go by a few questionable news outlets.

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@jak42 said:

Seems silly if true. If you want to enlist more females, than just increase recruitment efforts towards women.

Don't point out the obvious things to do. It is not how this works. =/

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@Celsius765 said:

@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

lol, are you making up your claims on the go? Can you please provide any source for the statement I bolded?

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@mrbojangles25 said:

wow. just...wow.

Isn't Australia supposed to be going through their own sort of alt-right hell right now, too? I would think this nonsense would not fly down under

Nope

We are just fucked if the US decides to attack NK.

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@indzman said:

How can female soldiers even fight against ISIS ?,They'd be slaughteted or even worse.

AUSTRALIA needs Hardcore tough male soldiers to fight ISIS?

My sister had no problem dealing with them.

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@plageus900 said:
@indzman said:

How can female soldiers even fight against ISIS ?,They'd be slaughteted or even worse.

AUSTRALIA needs Hardcore tough male soldiers to fight ISIS?

My sister had no problem dealing with them.

Kudos to your sister :)

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#32 Jak42
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@horgen: Surely reasoning went out the window if this is true.

Guess we'll find out if there's a complete or disproportionate amount of females to males in the coming boot camp.

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#33  Edited By mirgamer
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@Celsius765 said:

@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

Spoken by someone who never trained or served alongside women before in any of the services. Or seen men serving besides women. Do you regard men as total idiots who act as total buffoons whenever a female presence is nearby? Then you are also disrespecting male soldiers who have served with women in the services before.

And men are biologically weaker? I've nothing else to say to you since you are making shit up and totally disregarding proven biology. I supposed the military should recruit female spiders and based the entire doctrine on a totally different species. /facepalm /headdesk. I can also bring up species where obviously the males are bigger and stronger than females like lions and tigers but they are irrelavent because...we are talking about humans, arent we? Wait i get it, the female lions are oppressed and aren't allowed physical activities, thats why...smh. You do realise that they ARE matriarchal societies in some cultures around the world but guess who are still expected to go out and perform the physical labours? Yes, the men.

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I saw an interview on this. The woman asked why the best candidates could not come from a pool of women only. I don't even know what to say about that. Might be more offensive to me than these "nazis" I'm hearing of.

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@Celsius765 said:

@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

If women are so tough why don't you fight the patriarchy more effectively then?

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@Celsius765 said:

@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

I observe times are changing and women are climbing on top again.

More women these days strive for their Independence and believe a male as an unnecessary step in their pursuits for success and happiness. In fact, I see more and more women talking down on the ideals of a relationship whereas more men are the ones becoming weak and shut-down over the fact they can never get a girl. It's really funny. I've had so many female friends and counterparts over these years, and I hear it collectively common when women rant how they find more males these days to be emotional teddy bears who just want to find their mommy replacements rather than actually being a counterpart to carry a relationship. More guys these days just want a woman to...feed them, do their laundry; and, you know, be mommy.

More women these days are pretty straight and direct on their own sexual desires. They're the go-getters when they have the hots for someone, not the males. Sorry. Males tend to beat around the bush because they're insecure and don't really know what they want but striving to get laid is cool. If anyone really thinks men are the ones that make the first moves in romance, think again. If any guy thinks otherwise, perhaps they don't have enough interactions with women to realize it was probably a woman that gave them direct eye-contact while brushing her hair and smiling that made their dick's hard in the first place.

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#37  Edited By SolidSnake35
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@jaydan said:
@Celsius765 said:

@mirgamer: Not really good soldiers or incompetent ones come in all genders. And well men tend to act funny when working with women, it really hinders their teamwork. its a common thing in society for men to assume women don't know things even if she studied hard and graduated with top marks. it's man's assumptuos nature tha makes it harder for women to get their work done. And lets be honest those studies are from a small sample of soldiers not the entire military. I do think that study shows how poorly our units are put together. Even all male squad could be a bunch of imbeciles if they can't work together. And well these studies can easily be men padding their egos none of us were at these research trials.

And biologically men are weaker and age faster. However because of society and gender norms enforced for centuries men are raised to pursue physical activities while women aren't to a great extent. Without all that men are weak or average unless they work out. The same goes for women. I've seen plenty of scrawny or overweight men in my life to know that. If men were truly stronger they'd be the ones giving birth. It takes a great deal to birth a child the size of a football through an opening roughly 7 to 9 inches in length. History could have easily favored women had things been different. Its already different a lot in nature. Like spiders females are larger and when she is done with a male she eats him.

I observe times are changing and women are climbing on top again.

More women these days strive for their Independence and believe a male as an unnecessary step in their pursuits for success and happiness. In fact, I see more and more women talking down on the ideals of a relationship whereas more men are the ones becoming weak and shut-down over the fact they can never get a girl. It's really funny. I've had so many female friends and counterparts over these years, and I hear it collectively common when women rant how they find more males these days to be emotional teddy bears who just want to find their mommy replacements rather than actually being a counterpart to carry a relationship. More guys these days just want a woman to...feed them, do their laundry; and, you know, be mommy.

More women these days are pretty straight and direct on their own sexual desires. They're the go-getters when they have the hots for someone, not the males. Sorry. Males tend to beat around the bush because they're insecure and don't really know what they want but striving to get laid is cool. If you really think men are the ones that make the first moves in romance, think again. Perhaps you don't have enough interactions with women to realize it was probably a woman that gave you direct eye-contact while brushing her hair and smiling that made your dick hard in the first place.

But if women do get to the top, we can cry on YouTube about the matriarchy right? I mean we do love to be emotional and all. Also, I hate to bring this up in every post but... 2 billion Chinese... their women aren't backing up your theory here XD

Yeah it's really not cool to marginalize them like that. Check your privilege.