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#1 PS2_ROCKS
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I would just like those who don't believe in God or those unsure of their faith to watch this documentary. I've been looking for a way to convey how God's work and miracles are still being done on earth today and this video presents it in a nice way. Open your minds for the duration of this documentary and just take it in. Please post what you think about it. Finger of God - Part 1Finger of God - Part 2Finger of God - Part 3Finger of God - Part 4Finger of God - Part 5Finger of God - Part 6Finger of God - Part 7Finger of God - Part 8Finger of God - Part 9Finger of God - Part 10 Question: What do you make of the people in the video being healed in the name of Jesus? Or the many testimonies throughout? Tell me your theories.
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#2 deactivated-597bb01c846a2
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A waste of time. It won't change my mind about anything. Religion and the concept of God is man made, and if God is real, it has nothing to do with any religion on this planet.
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#4 majoras_wrath
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It's based on the supposition that atheists will take any stock in miracles. Hint: We don't. Good try though :)
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#5 lancea34
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Ever heard of the persian god Mithra? Do some research about it. You might actually be surprised.

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#6 DroidPhysX
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In my opinion, God was just a figment of mans imagination when man first thought. The belief system of God and religion itself has too many critical flaws and contradictions for me to believe in it strongly.
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#7 foxhound_fox
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Let me guess, it is a whole series about how "Nothing could have randomly happened, just looking at it assures me that it must be designed by a being greater than I." I wish I had unlimited data and could waste my time with this at work. It would give me something to do.
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#8 Serraph105
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I believe a TLDW is appropriate here.

I'm not an athiest myself, but I know how the internet works. A ten minute video is usually too long, much less ten videos.

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#9 Kcube
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Christians trying to convert atheist - Check Athiest trying to get christians to stop beleiving - Check
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#10 Diviniuz
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Another documentary that calls god a he
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[QUOTE="Kcube"]Christians trying to convert atheist - Check Athiest trying to get christians to stop beleiving - Check

I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale.
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#12 HoolaHoopMan
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I'd rather not and save myself the time. I've heard everything out there that religious folk use to convert sinful people like me.
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I thought after the unpleasantness with the CWU and the declaration that we are in Satan's Lair, evangelism was frowned upon here anyway
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#14 SirWander
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no thanks

I believe a TLDW is appropriate here.Serraph105

it is

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I thought after the unpleasantness with the CWU and the declaration that we are in Satan's Lair, evangelism was frowned upon here anywayxaos
It doesn't help when our glorious leader isn't spreading the Gospel of Sin as much as he used to.
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I'm fairly positive nothing a religious person can say can make me believe in god.

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[QUOTE="xaos"]I thought after the unpleasantness with the CWU and the declaration that we are in Satan's Lair, evangelism was frowned upon here anywayfoxhound_fox
It doesn't help when our glorious leader isn't spreading the Gospel of Sin as much as he used to.

The beauty is that sin spreads itself, allowing me to just lay back
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#18 Diviniuz
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I can't stand all the praise an imaginary figure gets. When something great happens its because of god.
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[QUOTE="xaos"]I thought after the unpleasantness with the CWU and the declaration that we are in Satan's Lair, evangelism was frowned upon here anywayfoxhound_fox
It doesn't help when our glorious leader isn't spreading the Gospel of Sin as much as he used to.

Tell him to stop slacking or the boogyman is going to catch you by surprise :P
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Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have "rational" explanations for miracles.

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Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.the_plan_man
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.
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[QUOTE="Kcube"]Christians trying to convert atheist - Check Athiest trying to get christians to stop beleiving - CheckDiophage
I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale.

The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.

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[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="Kcube"]Christians trying to convert atheist - Check Athiest trying to get christians to stop beleiving - CheckSamurai_Xavier

I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale.

The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.

Oh, yeah? Prove it.
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[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="Kcube"]Christians trying to convert atheist - Check Athiest trying to get christians to stop beleiving - CheckSamurai_Xavier

I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale.

The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.

So people actually ate his flesh and drank him at a dinner table..And worse ..they did it the night before he died. I just realised something..they ate and drank his blood but blame the romans and jewish for crucifieng him. He was murdered by his freaking followers :shock: and they created the biggest cover up in history.
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The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.Samurai_Xavier
Just because something contains an historical fact or two doesn't validate the whole thing. The Tale of Genji has historical things in it too.
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="Diophage"] I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale. Diophage

The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.

Oh, yeah? Prove it.

I am pretty sure Jesus was a real person. There isn't overwhelming supporting evidence but there are some documentation. Was Jesus the son of god? No, god is not real. Was Jesus a good person? It appears he was. Did Jesus ever know he was never the son of God? That I am unsure of. Sounds completely dependent on what his mother told him. One thing I am not too fond of is athetists hating on Jesus.

The man was a cool dude. But like the tons of literature back then, you can't really trust it. They believed the world was flat, center of the universe, no real bearing on science, and lived with governments heavily based on religion. Did Jesus self-rez? lol no

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well you go believing god and when we find another form of life (cause we will youd be a fool to think were alone (but not like hardcore alien abduction bs)) the christian faith is going to need to explain exactly how they fit into this mess.. o wait right gods image n sh!t

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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.foxhound_fox
Just because something contains an historical fact or two doesn't validate the whole thing. The Tale of Genji has historical things in it too.

I never finish what someone says after "just becasue" anymore. ;p
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[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.Diviniuz
Oh, yeah? Prove it.

I am pretty sure Jesus was a real person. There isn't overwhelming supporting evidence but there are some documentation. Was Jesus the son of god? No, god is not real. Was Jesus a good person? It appears he was. Did Jesus ever know he was never the son of God? That I am unsure of. Sounds completely dependent on what his mother told him. One thing I am not too fond of is athetists hating on Jesus. The man was a cool dude. But like the tons of literature back then, you can't really trust it. They believed the world was flat, center of the universe, no real bearing on science, and lived with governments heavily based on religion.

Is that right? Well, you're gonna have to prove it. "I'm pretty sure" doesn't prove it.
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Why do you eat the body of christ? and let kids drink wine?
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Why do you eat the body of christ? and let kids drink wine?Kcube
Because it teaches good morals like cannibalism, and also helps to promote healthy alcoholism.
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="Diophage"] I don't bother with that crap. If they wanted to, they would have stopped following religion a long time. I'm not saying they would have stopped necessarily believing that there may be a god, but at the least they would accept that the Bible and other similar texts as a fairy tale. Diophage

The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.

Oh, yeah? Prove it.

I'm not going to bother looking for an article that proves the historical existence of Jesus. Just read Wikipedia. If you don't believe Jesus actually existed, had dozens of followers, and was killed by the Roman empire, you are not someone worth arguing with because its a pretty well known fact that Jesus was a real person, and most of the accounts in the Bible of his teachings are also real.

BTW, I'm not saying you have to believe he performed miracles or rose from the dead. It's fine if you don't believe that. But Christianity comes from his teachings, which are historically documented. Therefore, Christianity comes from a real person who gave real teachings, not from fairy tales.

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[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurateSamurai_Xavier
Oh, yeah? Prove it.

I'm not going to bother looking for an article that proves the historical existence of Jesus. Just read Wikipedia. If you don't believe Jesus actually existed, had dozens of followers, and was killed by the Roman empire, you are not someone worth arguing with because its a pretty well known fact that Jesus was a real person, and most of the accounts in the Bible of his teachings are also real.BTW, I'm not saying you have to believe he performed miracles or rose from the dead. It's fine if you don't believe that. But Christianity comes from his teachings, which are historically documented. Therefore, Christianity comes from a real person who gave real teachings, not from fairy tales.

I don't need to prove it. Read wikipedia. That pretty much sums up your redundant paragraph.
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]The New Testament is certainly not a fairy tale. Jesus is a real historical figure by all extents, and the four gospels in the NT all give the same accounts. His teachings are the foundations of Christianity. While you may or may not believe that Jesus performed miracles, died and rose from the dead, you cannot say that he and his death aren't real because they are real by historical account. Therefore, Christianity isn't in any way a "fairy tale" nor does it come from "fairty tale" book. Also, many books in the Old Testament such as Kings are also historically accurate.foxhound_fox
Just because something contains an historical fact or two doesn't validate the whole thing. The Tale of Genji has historical things in it too.

I never said it validated anything. I was just trying to say that the Bible and Christianity isn't just "fairy tales".
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Why do you eat the body of christ? and let kids drink wine?Kcube
It's not wine, it's blood :x
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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.xaos
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.alexside1
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.

You aint got 10 dollars, Jenny.
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="xaos"] Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.

You aint got 10 dollars, Jenny.

****, looks like I been foiled.
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Seriously, OP, you should know better than to try and convert the Atheists of OT. You'll have an easier time getting an OT metalhead to listen to rap or pop than you will have getting an OT Atheist (or most other Atheists in general) to believe in God.

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[QUOTE="Diophage"]I don't need to prove it. Read wikipedia. That pretty much sums up your redundant paragraph. Samurai_Xavier

Fine, based on your remarkably unintelligent and troll posts, you are someone not worth paying attention to.

Oh, alright. If you say so. I'm just saying, his existence is heavily debated. Since you like Wikipedia so much http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Jesus_as_a_historical_person
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.alexside1
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.

Yes, even if there was a God and it came to me in person, I'd immediately try to understand it and that means questioning it. I'd be skeptical, what if it's just a damn alien with extremely advanced technology and it can do stuff that to us looks like a miracle?
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[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="Diophage"] Oh, yeah? Prove it.

I am pretty sure Jesus was a real person. There isn't overwhelming supporting evidence but there are some documentation. Was Jesus the son of god? No, god is not real. Was Jesus a good person? It appears he was. Did Jesus ever know he was never the son of God? That I am unsure of. Sounds completely dependent on what his mother told him. One thing I am not too fond of is athetists hating on Jesus. The man was a cool dude. But like the tons of literature back then, you can't really trust it. They believed the world was flat, center of the universe, no real bearing on science, and lived with governments heavily based on religion.

Is that right? Well, you're gonna have to prove it. "I'm pretty sure" doesn't prove it.

Oh I am not stating I am certain. I do recall there being some evidence of Jesus existence. If he didn't exist I won't lose sleep over it.
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"I don't understand

therefore God"

This will save a lot of people a lot of time.

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#46 PS2_ROCKS
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Doesn't anyone find it interesting how, when they pray for someone, the specifically ask for symptom X to be removed in JESUS name and it is! Why would any other God/no God allow a miracle to happen in Jesus name? So to those people who have watched it, what do you make of people being healed? This is where you fall short. You say there is no substance but what about these people being healed in Jesus name? What do you think it is? Coincidence? Completely made up? Everyone in is either lieing or an actor? I want to know your theory.
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#47 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.alexside1
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.

A whole $10? Too rich for my blood
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#48 wis3boi
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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

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#49 Kcube
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Not gonna work, buddy. Atheists have rational explanations for miracles.alexside1
Fixed a couple of typos for you, slight misspelling and erroneous use of scare quotes.

I bet 10 dollars, that if god appear to you in person for proof, you try to rationalize it away.

I wouldn't I would just be spooked and kick him in the balls.
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#50 Krelian-co
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yeah, like i havent lost enough time to the massive delusion going on called religion i would lose 2 h of my life ( dont rly know how long it is nor i care) to watch people make bs to fit in theeir book.