Atheistic Bible

Lately, I've been writing a book which I called the "Atheistic Bible", a book which is ought to express my thoughts on religion and my strong atheism ideologies. To make the reading more interesting, I decided to make it in Nitsche's style, A la "Bible style", with verses and books (the books will be organized according to topics).

I've written about 7 pages for now but I'm already feeling empty of topics to chatter about, anyone wanna throw some ideas which I can discuss in the book? Or maybe recommend me another name for the book, of course if you deem "Atheistic Bible" a pathetic title.

well its not a bad idea but you have the same problem i do when it comes to projects like this, your inspiration/motivation seems to come in spurts which after a few hours fizzles out then comes back a while later maybe days maybe months.

i suggest getting someone else to co-author it with you.

isnt that kind of contradictory?MichaeltheCM

Not really. I'm calling it the Bible because it expresses my thoughts and my "how-to-live", and I'm writing it in "Bible Style" to make it stand-out from all other atheistic literature.

Here's a small portion specially for GameSpot. (Just so you guys understand the idea of the book.)

 The Book of Generosity

1:1 "And when those in need await kindness from others, both religious and non-religious aid them, but for different reasons."

1:2 "And a believer spares money to the poor because it is what his faith teaches, but another spares money to the poor because it is what his heart teaches him."

1:3 "And a believer conducts good acts for his heaven and his faith's reputation, but another conducts good acts for his heart and for his world's sake.

1:4 "And when a believer invites those in need to his house, says he, "Come forth into my house, and let's glorify my God and his creation altogether." But when another invites those in need to his house, says he, "Come forth into my house, and let's enjoy this food and warmth altogether."

1:5 "And when a believer invites the homeless to church and feeds them afterwards, expects he a blessing of God on himself. And when another invites the homeless to his home and feeds them afterwards, expects he only to witness the smile and satisfaction of his indigent guest."

1:6 "And what kind of generosity is it which comes not out of the soul, but from faith's motivation?"

1:7 "And if you are ever to perform acts of kindness, do it without a reason or motivation."

1:8 "For you should not be the man who performs kind acts just because you were taught so."

1:9 "And what are the believers, if not the slaves of their illusionary kindness motivation?"

2:1 "And is not their kindness motivated simply by their belief, not by heart?"

The Book of Origins

1: 1"And when Man saw the rising sun, trembled they from its powers. Unfolded have they their ideas, and called it Ra, the God of Sun."

1: 2"Came another day, another rising of the Nile, and trembled again did Man for the unknown power, and called it they Re-Atum."

1: 3"Thousand years passed, and again Man trembled from unknown powers - only naming one God after another for an event have they calmed their souls and imprudently explained their existence."

1: 4"And when the wisest spoke of his thoughts, murdered have him the God's men, for nobody dares oppose God - man's erratic creation."

1: 5"And when fell the Gods, new unfolded with speed of light, and dictated new rules by the written texts of Man, and all who abided not died by the hands of believers. And when another God's man opposed the God of the other, called he a Heretic would be, and religious wars would unfold, lives of millions taken by religious altercation."

1:6"And when one holy text seemed disadvantageous for a religious leader; altered he would for his personal use, and pour blood of his believers who marked the wrong-doing."

2:1"Soon, leaders of mighty nations recognized the power of control that is reachable through religious control."

2:2"And declared the most fitted religion was declared as prime religion of the nation, to make crowd control a much easier task for the governing body."

A co-authorBourbons3

I live in a country where finding a co-author for this kind of a book would be harder than finding Osama.

Crap, I'm atheist so no religious figure can tell me how I'm supposed to think and act. And now you're spoiling it all! :oJelle87

I never tell people how to live in my book, the only thing I say is "And if you are ever to perform acts of kindness, do it without a reason or motivation.", which is actually referring to the religious people which need a motivation to act kindful towards others.

Shouldn't you concentrate more on your way of life rather than on the evils of religion?Zagrius

By your philosophy, we wouldn't have Nitsche's awesome literature.
And not like it's impossible to do both at the same time. 

Nitsche attacked the fundamentals of Christianity and their morals by using metaphorical style of writing, however I'm going with a more straightforward approach to this situation.

(Have you ever read Nitsche's work?) 

I thought that Atheism was a more open-ended belief in the non-existance of God. If this is true then a "Bible" would be silly as you are attempting to gather a group of people with similar ideas under one set of beliefs. That being said I don't truely know what atheism is and it is in my belief that most who claim to be atheists don't truely know either. I understand agnosticism but atheism just doesn't make sense.NinjaWolf14

I'm not trying to gather up a group of people and have them worship this book.

The book is simply full of my personal philosophical ideologies which some other Strong Atheists might share.

Regarding you saying that Atheism doesn't make sense, that's completely wrong. We simply reject anything supernatural and most of us stick to Evolution (and some might even stick to the Big Bang Theory).

I understand you're trying to do it all bible-like, but it might be a good idea to use standard english (or whatever your first language is) instead of trying to emulate the style of english in the bible because some of those passages are kinda hard to understandmiracleriver

I've been writing this book in broken english on purpose. The whole idea is to present the book as if it were written in the 2nd century, just for making it more unique from all other Atheistic books.

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"]I thought that Atheism was a more open-ended belief in the non-existance of God. If this is true then a "Bible" would be silly as you are attempting to gather a group of people with similar ideas under one set of beliefs. That being said I don't truely know what atheism is and it is in my belief that most who claim to be atheists don't truely know either. I understand agnosticism but atheism just doesn't make sense.GeorgeTopouria

I'm not trying to gather up a group of people and have them worship this book.

The book is simply full of my personal philosophical ideologies which some other Strong Atheists might share.

Regarding you saying that Atheism doesn't make sense, that's completely wrong. We simply reject anything supernatural and most of us stick to Evolution (and some might even stick to the Big Bang Theory).

This is going off-topic but do you believe in the human soul?  And do you only believe in something if it can only be empirically proven? 

[QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"]I thought that Atheism was a more open-ended belief in the non-existance of God. If this is true then a "Bible" would be silly as you are attempting to gather a group of people with similar ideas under one set of beliefs. That being said I don't truely know what atheism is and it is in my belief that most who claim to be atheists don't truely know either. I understand agnosticism but atheism just doesn't make sense.NinjaWolf14

I'm not trying to gather up a group of people and have them worship this book.

The book is simply full of my personal philosophical ideologies which some other Strong Atheists might share.

Regarding you saying that Atheism doesn't make sense, that's completely wrong. We simply reject anything supernatural and most of us stick to Evolution (and some might even stick to the Big Bang Theory).

This is going off-topic but do you believe in the human soul? And do you only believe in something if it can only be empirically proven?

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"]I thought that Atheism was a more open-ended belief in the non-existance of God. If this is true then a "Bible" would be silly as you are attempting to gather a group of people with similar ideas under one set of beliefs. That being said I don't truely know what atheism is and it is in my belief that most who claim to be atheists don't truely know either. I understand agnosticism but atheism just doesn't make sense.GeorgeTopouria

I'm not trying to gather up a group of people and have them worship this book.

The book is simply full of my personal philosophical ideologies which some other Strong Atheists might share.

Regarding you saying that Atheism doesn't make sense, that's completely wrong. We simply reject anything supernatural and most of us stick to Evolution (and some might even stick to the Big Bang Theory).

This is going off-topic but do you believe in the human soul? And do you only believe in something if it can only be empirically proven?

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

[QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"][QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"]I thought that Atheism was a more open-ended belief in the non-existance of God. If this is true then a "Bible" would be silly as you are attempting to gather a group of people with similar ideas under one set of beliefs. That being said I don't truely know what atheism is and it is in my belief that most who claim to be atheists don't truely know either. I understand agnosticism but atheism just doesn't make sense.NinjaWolf14

I'm not trying to gather up a group of people and have them worship this book.

The book is simply full of my personal philosophical ideologies which some other Strong Atheists might share.

Regarding you saying that Atheism doesn't make sense, that's completely wrong. We simply reject anything supernatural and most of us stick to Evolution (and some might even stick to the Big Bang Theory).

This is going off-topic but do you believe in the human soul? And do you only believe in something if it can only be empirically proven?

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

You don't need a soul to be good. I don't need a soul to be kind towards others. I don't any motivation to be good.

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

GeorgeTopouria

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

You don't need a soul to be good. I don't need a soul to be kind towards others. I don't any motivation to be good.

Yes, but why should you be good? (I know the answer that you are probably going to give, I'm just making sure you know it :P)

And where is this kindness coming from if you don't have a soul?

[QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"][QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

NinjaWolf14

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

You don't need a soul to be good. I don't need a soul to be kind towards others. I don't any motivation to be good.

Yes, but why should you be good? (I know the answer that you are probably going to give, I'm just making sure you know it :P)

And where is this kindness coming from if you don't have a soul?

His brain.......you don't need a "soul" to be kind..... 

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"][QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

trix5817

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

You don't need a soul to be good. I don't need a soul to be kind towards others. I don't any motivation to be good.

Yes, but why should you be good? (I know the answer that you are probably going to give, I'm just making sure you know it :P)

And where is this kindness coming from if you don't have a soul?

His brain.......you don't need a "soul" to be kind.....

You still forgot/neglected to answer #1

By brain you mean the different nerve impulses...correct.  If so do you have control over them, or are they a product of your enviroment?

[QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"][QUOTE="NinjaWolf14"][QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

I do not believe in the human soul or in anything supernatural. I believe only that which can be seen, touched, heard, or anyhow observed and felt. Anything else is a hoax. There are no Gods, no souls, no Zeus and no zombies - all of this originated after men reached the stage of the evolution where they could question their own existence.

trix5817

If you and I don't have a soul then why should we act as you suggest in your Bible?

You don't need a soul to be good. I don't need a soul to be kind towards others. I don't any motivation to be good.

Yes, but why should you be good? (I know the answer that you are probably going to give, I'm just making sure you know it :P)

And where is this kindness coming from if you don't have a soul?

His brain.......you don't need a "soul" to be kind.....

I had a dog which always was quiet and never portrayed any signs of aggression towards anyone.

Does it mean he had a soul? Or maybe that simply was his nature?

Same is with me. I have a brain and I know that being evil is bad because I don't feel good when doing evil. I want to be good because I don't like evil. I have a brain that analyzes everything and it makes me do good instead of evil.

Here's a small portion specially for GameSpot. (Just so you guys understand the idea of the book.)

 The Book of Generosity

1:1 "And when those in need await kindness from others, both religious and non-religious aid them, but for different reasons."

1:2 "And a believer spares money to the poor because it is what his faith teaches, but another spares money to the poor because it is what his heart teaches him."

1:3 "And a believer conducts good acts for his heaven and his faith's reputation, but another conducts good acts for his heart and for his world's sake.

1:4 "And when a believer invites those in need to his house, says he, "Come forth into my house, and let's glorify my God and his creation altogether." But when another invites those in need to his house, says he, "Come forth into my house, and let's enjoy this food and warmth altogether."

1:5 "And when a believer invites the homeless to church and feeds them afterwards, expects he a blessing of God on himself. And when another invites the homeless to his home and feeds them afterwards, expects he only to witness the smile and satisfaction of his indigent guest."

1:6 "And what kind of generosity is it which comes not out of the soul, but from faith's motivation?"

1:7 "And if you are ever to perform acts of kindness, do it without a reason or motivation."

1:8 "For you should not be the man who performs kind acts just because you were taught so."

1:9 "And what are the believers, if not the slaves of their illusionary kindness motivation?"

2:1 "And is not their kindness motivated simply by their belief, not by heart?"

 

The Book of Origins

1: 1"And when Man saw the rising sun, trembled they from its powers. Unfolded have they their ideas, and called it Ra, the God of Sun."

1: 2"Came another day, another rising of the Nile, and trembled again did Man for the unknown power, and called it they Re-Atum."

1: 3"Thousand years passed, and again Man trembled from unknown powers - only naming one God after another for an event have they calmed their souls and imprudently explained their existence."

1: 4"And when the wisest spoke of his thoughts, murdered have him the God's men, for nobody dares oppose God - man's erratic creation."

1: 5"And when fell the Gods, new unfolded with speed of light, and dictated new rules by the written texts of Man, and all who abided not died by the hands of believers. And when another God's man opposed the God of the other, called he a Heretic would be, and religious wars would unfold, lives of millions taken by religious altercation."

1:6"And when one holy text seemed disadvantageous for a religious leader; altered he would for his personal use, and pour blood of his believers who marked the wrong-doing."

2:1"Soon, leaders of mighty nations recognized the power of control that is reachable through religious control."

2:2"And declared the most fitted religion was declared as prime religion of the nation, to make crowd control a much easier task for the governing body."

 

 

GeorgeTopouria

Oh? And then why do atheists do kind acts then? To make them feel better about theirselves?

Works both ways doesn't it?

I had a dog which always was quite and never portrayed any signs of aggression towards anyone.

Does it mean he had a soul? Or maybe that simply was his nature?

Same is with me. I have a brain and I know that being evil is bad because I don't feel good when doing evil. I want to be good because I don't like evil. I have a brain that analyzes everything and it makes me do good instead of evil.

GeorgeTopouria

Now you are really starting to side step the questions.  If anyone else wants to try to tackle them please do so because I'm starting to worry I'm not going to get anywhere with this one.

We are not talking about dogs, we are talking about humans which are vastly different.

How do you feel with your brain? Also please respond to my above questions so that we might be able to get somewhere.

Oh? And then why do atheists do kind acts then? To make them feel better about theirselves?

Shadow_Link50

Because they want to act kind towards others. Without any third-party motivation. Without a reason.

You don't really need a reason to help someone that has tripped outside, don't you? Why would you need a reason to help anyone else then? 

[QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

I had a dog which always was quite and never portrayed any signs of aggression towards anyone.

Does it mean he had a soul? Or maybe that simply was his nature?

Same is with me. I have a brain and I know that being evil is bad because I don't feel good when doing evil. I want to be good because I don't like evil. I have a brain that analyzes everything and it makes me do good instead of evil.

NinjaWolf14

Now you are really starting to side step the questions. If anyone else wants to try to tackle them please do so because I'm starting to worry I'm not going to get anywhere with this one.

We are not talking about dogs, we are talking about humans which are vastly different.

How do you feel with your brain? Also please respond to my above questions so that we might be able to get somewhere.

Animals and humans have nearly the same physical composition. Humans are just smarter and able to show more emotions. But even animals have emotions (A dog shows its happiness by nagging its tail rapidly).

I do believe that our ability to feel developed at the same time as our brain.

Animals and humans have nearly the same physical composition. Humans are just smarter and able to show more emotions. But even animals have emotions (A dog shows its happiness by nagging its tail rapidly).

I do believe that our ability to feel developed at the same time as our brain.

GeorgeTopouria

Don't even get into the physical composition if you won't answer my questions about the brain. Humans have the ability to reason which puts them far above other organisms. Also I'll ask it once again, would you respond to my questions on the third page which you neglected.

I'm unclear with what you're trying to achieve with this book. You say you just want to express your opinions, but why should anyone read it? What makes your opinions more important than anybody else's?Buffalo_Soulja

What makes Nitsche's opinions more important than anyone's else? Or what made Voltaires's philosphical ideas important?

[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm unclear with what you're trying to achieve with this book. You say you just want to express your opinions, but why should anyone read it? What makes your opinions more important than anybody else's?GeorgeTopouria

What makes Nitsche's opinions more important than anyone's else? Or what made Voltaires's philosphical ideas important?

Well they both basically spent their lives on philosophy, one thing I doubt you have done or will do.

I have a  verse for you

"If there really is a god, then what was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread?" 

Why not consider another religion instead of becoming atheist?

If Christianity is wrong, then that doesn't mean it is the only religion out there.

Atheisim is also illogical. Manely because they don't think about the Human soul. 

The only way I would become Athiest is when their so called "technology" starts reviving people back from the dead. Until then, Atheists should try realy hard to convince me that we don't have souls.

I've always wondered...why are Atheists always trying to disprove the Bible? If you don't belive in the Bible then fine, but respect the beliefs of those of us like me who do belive in it....just as i respect your belief that there is no God.   Why do Atheists HATE when people (usually Christians) express their beliefs in public? if a Christian prays in public or hands out Bibles to a child why do Atheists get so upset? expressing our beliefs in public does not effect you and it is no different then when Atheists try and remove Christianity from public places, Christianty and Atheism are BOTH relegions because a relegion is nreally othing but a belief system.

Why not consider another religion instead of becoming atheist?

If Christianity is wrong, then that doesn't mean it is the only religion out there.

Atheisim is also illogical. Manely because they don't think about the Human soul.

The only way I would become Athiest is when their so called "technology" starts reviving people back from the dead. Until then, Atheists should try realy hard to convince me that we don't have souls.

crude_darkness

People have been declared dead and revived before.............

[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm unclear with what you're trying to achieve with this book. You say you just want to express your opinions, but why should anyone read it? What makes your opinions more important than anybody else's?GeorgeTopouria

What makes Nitsche's opinions more important than anyone's else? Or what made Voltaires's philosphical ideas important?

Nitsche was a University Professor of Classical Philology. Voltaire was an esteemed satirist and prolific writer in many mediums.

Who are you, and what do you have to show for it?

I've always wondered...why are Atheists always trying to disprove the Bible? If you don't belive in the Bible then fine, but respect the beliefs of those of us like me who do belive in it....just as i respect your belief that there is no God. Why do Atheists HATE when people (usually Christians) express their beliefs in public? if a Christian prays in public or hands out Bibles to a child why do Atheists get so upset? expressing our beliefs in public does not effect you and it is no different then when Atheists try and remove Christianity from public places, Christianty and Atheism are BOTH relegions because a relegion is nreally othing but a belief system.

Chief_Smackaho

[QUOTE="GeorgeTopouria"]

[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm unclear with what you're trying to achieve with this book. You say you just want to express your opinions, but why should anyone read it? What makes your opinions more important than anybody else's?Buffalo_Soulja

What makes Nitsche's opinions more important than anyone's else? Or what made Voltaires's philosphical ideas important?

Nitsche was a University Professor of Classical Philology. Voltaire was an esteemed satirist and prolific writer in many mediums.

Most of Nitsche's work became popular after his death. His "Thus poke Zarathustra" was only popular amongst his friends.

He wasn't writing for the crowd, but for himself. He would simply want to portray his feelings on religion, just like I am. I am not Nitsche, but he wasn't born a walking legend either. And his books weren't pinned "Masterpiece" right after they were written. And it amuses me why you would expect me to represent something of myself when the book isn't even half-written and when I am a beginning writer (and maybe a future philology teacher.)

[QUOTE="crude_darkness"]

Why not consider another religion instead of becoming atheist?

If Christianity is wrong, then that doesn't mean it is the only religion out there.

Atheisim is also illogical. Manely because they don't think about the Human soul.

The only way I would become Athiest is when their so called "technology" starts reviving people back from the dead. Until then, Atheists should try realy hard to convince me that we don't have souls.

Account_27

People have been declared dead and revived before.............

What's with the comment "so called technology?" too, I mean, he's typing on that so called technology... What is wrong with some Theists? They seem to think science is a belief... I just don't get it.

Also, I'm fairly certain brain damage disproves the soul. (Just through my understanding, I'm not looking to "start anything" lol)

As for the topic, I think it's a silly idea, if I'm to be honest. :/

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Why would you need a bible, isnt being a atheist super duper easy ?...  just : '' In our religion there is no God '' . Done. We all know the reasons, and teh science.

i always get a good laugh out of the hardcore atheists. next, you are going to come out with a meeting place for us to gather. simply not believing is enough for me. LoG-Sacrament

Yes yes... its just like... the South park Wii episode... :o