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#1 hyksiu
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Do you support animal rights?

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#2 Serraph105
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I am not a vegan, but I recognize the benefits to the environment that a Vegan diet provides where as our omnivore diet does not.

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#3 battlefront23
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Did someone say straw-man..?

Not a vegan, I do support animal rights.

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#4 MlauTheDaft
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@Serraph105 said:

I am not a vegan, but I recognize the benefits to the environment that a Vegan diet provides where as our omnivore diet does not.

pretty much my sentiment. I'll most likely end up converting.

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#5 AlexKidd5000
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No, I am not a pansy.

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#6 Micha_93
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@AlexKidd5000 said:

No, I am not a pansy.

Don't know if you're joking or not, but I always thought it was silly how some people are serious when they say things like this.

Like, it's food. You like what you like. Who cares what people eat.

That said, while I am not a vegetarian myself, I do occasionally go meat-free at least one day a week. It's good on my wallet, the environment, and my health. I just make sure to take a vitamin B-12 pills on those days =)

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#7 LJS9502_basic
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Nope. And I'm not going to pretend to be.

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#8 Master_Live
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I like my bacon.

As for rights, which rights?

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#9  Edited By Master_Live
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@hyksiu said:

Do you support animal rights?

Are you a vegan?

Do you support animal rights?

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#10  Edited By Micha_93
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@Master_Live said:

I like my bacon.

As for rights, which rights?

I'm obsessed with bacon too.

But sodium nitrates =(

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#11 Barbariser
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I tried a vegetarian diet for two weeks and lolnoped the concept after the experience. Also the vast majority of animals that people consume for meat are farm animals, which are literally the products of millennia of genetic engineering that would be very poorly suited to living in the wild. These creatures literally exist solely because humans want to eat them and would die off in massive numbers if we started to go vegan.

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#12  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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No.

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#13 hyksiu
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@Master_Live said:

I like my bacon.

As for rights, which rights?

The rights of the animals.

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#14 Master_Live
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@hyksiu said:
@Master_Live said:

I like my bacon.

As for rights, which rights?

The rights of the animals.

I'm not too familiar, could you state which specific rights are those?

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#15  Edited By hyksiu
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@Master_Live: The right to not suffer and/or die?

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#16  Edited By Master_Live
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@hyksiu said:

@Master_Live: The right to not suffer and/or die?

I see.

Animal suffering should be minimized as much as possible. There shall not be emancipation for that bacon, however.

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@battlefront23 said:

Did someone say straw-man..?

Not a vegan, I do support animal rights.

^ This.

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@xisiuizado said:
@battlefront23 said:

Did someone say straw-man..?

Not a vegan, I do support animal rights.

^ This.

Count me in as well.

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#21  Edited By hyksiu
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@thegerg: Yeah well people have those rights. That some stupid intelligence agency doesen't care is another question....

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#22 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@hyksiu:

What does being vegan have to do with animal rights?

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#23  Edited By hyksiu
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@Heirren: Let me explain - by not eating the meat of animals there's no reason for them to be killed for that meat.

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#25 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@hyksiu:

Yet more likely than not you live in a modern society with paved roads, and buy goods from various outlets which second handedly affect animal life. Vegan from a moral standpoint is bullshit in this respect. We've raped the land they once occupied.

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#26 Celsius765
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No, I would but I can't cook lol and yes I do as far as not being neglected and bred to death for profit and such

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#27 hyksiu
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@thegerg: I mean not die from preventable causes....

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#30 hyksiu
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@thegerg: I think you may be overreacting there a little bit. I thought that its implied that I don't mean death from things that cannot be prevented and death by suicide.

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#32 hyksiu
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Well the healthcare institutions obviously... And also choking is not allways preventable after its initiated. If you started choking sometimes theres no turning back.

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#33 TheHighWind
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I am a hypercarnivore. It's the new lifestyle.

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#34 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@thegerg said:

@hyksiu:

" The right to not suffer and/or die?"

Haha, don't be silly. People don't even have those rights.

Do YOU support an animal's right not to die?

The right to life is in article 3 of the declaration of human rights. It basically means you aren't allowed to kill a person without a just reason.

So if animals should have the same rights as humans then we will need to decide if the delicious taste of bacon is a just reason to kill.

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#37  Edited By hyksiu
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@thegerg: The right to not die from certain causes and for certain reasons is the same as the right to live. You are arguing semantics now...

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#39 AlexKidd5000
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@micha_93 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

No, I am not a pansy.

Don't know if you're joking or not, but I always thought it was silly how some people are serious when they say things like this.

Like, it's food. You like what you like. Who cares what people eat.

That said, while I am not a vegetarian myself, I do occasionally go meat-free at least one day a week. It's good on my wallet, the environment, and my health. I just make sure to take a vitamin B-12 pills on those days =)

Yes I am joking lol. and I agree, you like what you like.

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#40 hyksiu
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@thegerg: They didn't diagnose people properly? I am usre you are supposed to go regularly to be examined.

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#42 hyksiu
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@thegerg said:

@hyksiu:

Proper diagnosis does not prevent diabetes from killing people.

Ignorance FTL.

But it helps it to be prevented... Its part of the process of prevention that needs to be enchanced if so many people are dying...

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#44 hyksiu
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@thegerg: Well if they are not doing their best than they are in a way violating them...

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#46 Catalli  Moderator
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supporting animal rights and eating meat are not mutually exclusive. I'm not a vegan, no. Nor am I a vegetarian. I like tasty things what can I say.

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#47 deactivated-5d6933395c33c
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No.

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#48 tocool340
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Ummm...no. I'm a carnivore but I do support animal rights....

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#49 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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No. Some people biologically don't do well without meat.

We do need to do something about how the animal's we eat are raised, raising sick and mutated animals isn't good for them or us.

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#50 Drunk_PI
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No, I'm normal.