This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="duncancameron23"]After the bombardment of atheism vs religion on OT has anyone converted and seen the light?biBLioTeki went from atheist to christian, but not because of some silly forum post. requires alot more than mere words.
Drugs, brainwashing? (Just kidding;))
As a christian, I've seen quite a bit aethiests converted to chrisiitanity.
I do think the # 1 thing to disinterest people about faith in God is cramming the bible down the throat. You have to soul search and really change your ways.
I know some people who were raised in a hardcore religious family and have gone down some dark paths. just goes to show you can't force religion on anybody. It requires faith from your self!
i dont like the close mindedness of the christian folk here, so i turned atheist.NaiKoN9293
That doesn't make sense... why would closed-mindedness of Christians means that God doesn't exist? :?
[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]i dont like the close mindedness of the christian folk here, so i turned atheist.Funky_Llama
That doesn't make sense... why would closed-mindedness of Christians means that God doesn't exist? :?
I just saw that they had been tought to believe it and won't think rationally about it. and insteadt use confirmation bias to make God real to them, but that doens't make God real to me.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]i dont like the close mindedness of the christian folk here, so i turned atheist.NaiKoN9293
That doesn't make sense... why would closed-mindedness of Christians means that God doesn't exist? :?
I just saw that they had been tought to believe it and won't think rationally about it. and insteadt use confirmation bias to make God real to them, but that doens't make God real to me.
Yeah, but just because they don't think rationally about it doesn't mean God doesn't exist; it just means that they're rubbish. :P
[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]i dont like the close mindedness of the christian folk here, so i turned atheist.Funky_Llama
That doesn't make sense... why would closed-mindedness of Christians means that God doesn't exist? :?
I just saw that they had been tought to believe it and won't think rationally about it. and insteadt use confirmation bias to make God real to them, but that doens't make God real to me.
Yeah, but just because they don't think rationally about it doesn't mean God doesn't exist; it just means that they're rubbish. :P
I think he's trying to say he preferred an ever so slightly more, dare I say scientific way of thinking.i used to be very religious. i was a catholic who went to a catholic school and attended church regularly. im not an atheist H8sMikeMoore
Dude, I was just like you.
In what you described above, the only difference between you and I is that I am an atheist.
I went to a local Catholic school from Kindergarten to 10th grade and attended mass every Sunday, and transfered to a public school for 11th and 12th grade. In my senior year of high school, on the Tuesday after Palm Sunday, I finally rebelled and declared myself not Christian.
It was VERY hard, because to declare yourself not to believe in God can be a mortal sin, which you could go to Hell for, and mortal sins have to be forgiven by an oral confession to a priest, which is always a hassle, so declaring that I was not a part of the church took a lot of guts and it took forever for me to do.
Even after I declared myself atheist, it took me months before I had the guts to start using the Lord's name in vain.
That was a long time ago though, two and a half years ago, now I blasheme and exclaim that I worship Satan on a daily basis, I love being a heretic and enjoy every minute of it.
But I'm not the type of atheist that is a jerk about anyone's religion. I am open and accepting of people of all different philisophical and moral beliefs.
I told myself a long time ago, if I had a kid, I would support and accept ANY religion that the kid believed in, anything from Hindu to Protestant to Catholic to Buddhist to Islam to Judaica to Devil-Worship to Wicca to Tiki Idol Worship to etc.
If I were to have a problem with a certain religion, it would not be because of the beliefs involved, but would be about the religion affecting my kid's ability to function in a daily life and if the religion was harming my kid, like cults that demand you give all your possessions away to the group and live as a pauper in the group, that kinda stuff.
So to answer the OT question:
"Yeah, I DEFECTED to atheism."
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]i dont like the close mindedness of the christian folk here, so i turned atheist.deepdreamer256
That doesn't make sense... why would closed-mindedness of Christians means that God doesn't exist? :?
I just saw that they had been tought to believe it and won't think rationally about it. and insteadt use confirmation bias to make God real to them, but that doens't make God real to me.
Yeah, but just because they don't think rationally about it doesn't mean God doesn't exist; it just means that they're rubbish. :P
I think he's trying to say he preferred an ever so slightly more, dare I say scientific way of thinking.Meh... seemed more like a glorified ad hominem attack to be.
Meh... seemed more like a glorified ad hominem attack to be. Funky_LlamaARGH! And I just got out of critical thinking. :cry: You're right, though, there was an element of ad hominem to it.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Meh... seemed more like a glorified ad hominem attack to be. deepdreamer256ARGH! And I just got out of critical thinking. :cry: You're right, though, there was an element of ad hominem to it.
Sorry. :P
ARGH! And I just got out of critical thinking. :cry: You're right, though, there was an element of ad hominem to it.[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Meh... seemed more like a glorified ad hominem attack to be. Funky_Llama
Sorry. :P
It's okay, I shouldn't have come here if I wanted to cool off. >_>I switched pre-gamespot. My sister and father got in an argument over evolution and I was suprised to find otu my father was a creationist, I debated with him for a while eventually ddebated elswhere online joined GS a few months later.
TL;DR GS strengthened my Atheism, but didn't cause it.
As a christian, I've seen quite a bit aethiests converted to chrisiitanity.
I do think the # 1 thing to disinterest people about faith in God is cramming the bible down the throat. You have to soul search and really change your ways.
I know some people who were raised in a hardcore religious family and have gone down some dark paths. just goes to show you can't force religion on anybody. It requires faith from your self!
Squall18
QFT, probably one of the greatest points made about religion on any religion type thread i've seen on OT. To be a christian, it's about reflecting on yourself, and living a certain way based on that reflection. It shouldn't be about telling others what's right or wrong, because that's a sin in and of itself. I consider myself a christian, I just don't have a religious affiliation (catholic, baptist, methodist...etc..)
When I read the bible and pray, I'm not looking for answers in terms of 'how' things have happened (creation, evolution...etc). I'm looking for the answer 'why'. It seems that science and religion are trying to answer questions which neither of them have much business doing. Traditional based christian creation theories have been proved false; in a traditional sense. Meaning the Earth is only 4,000 years old, and there were no dinosaurs. I also find it equally foolish that science tries to answer the question 'why' though, when it has no business trying to find such answers. The simple fact that I think there's a reason means that there's an answer out there to obtain, other than just pro-creation.
I think the world would be a much simpler place if the two ideas of science and religion would just stick to the questions they're meant to answer.
I once defected to atheism, but I rediscovered my faith...but before that I was agnostic, then atheist, then agnostic...then religious...
I plan for it to stay that way now.
I am genuinly curious how that works. A suprising amount of Atheists become Christians (not a huge % but a decent chunk). I'm curios what drove you to Atheism in the first place? I arrived through logic and I can't imagine a logic that can undo it, others become Atheists because they are angry at god or want to rebel and such.I once defected to atheism, but I rediscovered my faith...but before that I was agnostic, then atheist, then agnostic...then religious...
I plan for it to stay that way now.
-TheSecondSign-
So I'm basically asking what type of Atheist were you? If you became one through logic I would also like to ask how you undid that?
[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]I am genuinly curious how that works. A suprising amount of Atheists become Christians (not a huge % but a decent chunk). I'm curios what drove you to Atheism in the first place? I arrived through logic and I can't imagine a logic that can undo it, others become Atheists because they are angry at god or want to rebel and such.I once defected to atheism, but I rediscovered my faith...but before that I was agnostic, then atheist, then agnostic...then religious...
I plan for it to stay that way now.
DrummerJon
So I'm basically asking what type of Atheist were you? If you became one through logic I would also like to ask how you undid that?
I became a very serious atheist after seeing a lot of things I wasn't exposed to previously. I learned a lot about science and the world and didn't think God could be a part of that. I am very well educated in the processes of the world, and for a time, I decided that God couldn't fit in there.
Then I realized he could fit in there, and decided to give it a chance. I examined religion again, and found truth there.
It was a persona decision, and I really can't explain it to you. It was a very long, and in some ways, upsetting story that I really can't word right.
I guess you could say I found something. Do I believe everyone needs that something? Most certainly not, and I don't consider myself "holier than thou". I don't consider myself "better", and in all honesty, I still do a lot of unsavory things.
I became a very serious atheist after seeing a lot of things I wasn't exposed to previously. I learned a lot about science and the world and didn't think God could be a part of that. I am very well educated in the processes of the world, and for a time, I decided that God couldn't fit in there.
Then I realized he could fit in there, and decided to give it a chance. I examined religion again, and found truth there.
It was a persona decision, and I really can't explain it to you. It was a very long, and in some ways, upsetting story that I really can't word right.
I guess you could say I found something. Do I believe everyone needs that something? Most certainly not, and I don't consider myself "holier than thou". I don't consider myself "better", and in all honesty, I still do a lot of unsavory things.
-TheSecondSign-
Mhm, How "religious" would you say exactly. I'm assuming you're not a christian literalist, nor a Pantheist. I can understand Pantheism/Deism as an easy jump from Atheism. If you are a literalist (creationist etc), no offense, but I can't wrap my mind around that jump.
I used to be Catholic when I was young, however I always had doubts. I had to admit, it was fun when I was young, hearing so many stories about Moses, Jesus and his miracles etc. At about 10 I started losing my faith, and by 16 I regarded myself as an atheist. After that I embraced science and rationale, letting go of all superstitions in my life. Strangely enough my grades improved ten fold.
You should also know that my whole family was catholic, including the extended family, in a 98% Catholic country and where atheism is seen as immoral.
Even when I was about 6 I used to ask my mum...why does the priest say so many weird things? I always had a feeling about Religion.
[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]I became a very serious atheist after seeing a lot of things I wasn't exposed to previously. I learned a lot about science and the world and didn't think God could be a part of that. I am very well educated in the processes of the world, and for a time, I decided that God couldn't fit in there.
Then I realized he could fit in there, and decided to give it a chance. I examined religion again, and found truth there.
It was a persona decision, and I really can't explain it to you. It was a very long, and in some ways, upsetting story that I really can't word right.
I guess you could say I found something. Do I believe everyone needs that something? Most certainly not, and I don't consider myself "holier than thou". I don't consider myself "better", and in all honesty, I still do a lot of unsavory things.
DrummerJon
Mhm, How "religious" would you say exactly. I'm assuming you're not a christian literalist, nor a Pantheist. I can understand Pantheism/Deism as an easy jump from Atheism. If you are a literalist (creationist etc), no offense, but I can't wrap my mind around that jump.
I would like to consider myself a fairly religious person.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment