Adobe going subscription only?

If you haven't heard, adobe who makes photoshop, premiere, illustrator etc is going to a subscription based model only.  As a professional i'm a little worried.  My church has me do some photography on the side for them for their site and I don't think they'll be able to recoup the costs.  

What do you think guys? 

P.S.  If this has been posted already I apologize in advance.

Link?

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud.html

also the petition that's going around.

http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model#supporters

CNETS article.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57582735-92/adobe-kills-creative-suite-goes-subscription-only/

I can't blame Adobe. Their products are among the most pirated out there.

I can't blame Adobe. Their products are among the most pirated out there.

jun_aka_pekto

This doesn't hurt pirates, it just hurts the people actually paying for it.

They should have both, I think the subscription is smart, I'd be much more likely to pay £15 a month than a one off payment of £700 or whatever it is for most of their stuff. But for companies and those that will be using it constantly the payment option is still better.bobbetybob

If you own 0 adobe product right now, and you buy the subscription for one year, at the end you own nothing.

If you own 0 adobe product right now, and you buy the subscription for one year, at the end you own nothing.0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]If you own 0 adobe product right now, and you buy the subscription for one year, at the end you own nothing.Zeviander

No, I understand the difference.  What i'm saying is, you can pay the same price you did when it was perpetual, and now you have nothing if you stop paying.  

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I can't blame Adobe. Their products are among the most pirated out there.

0rbs

This doesn't hurt pirates, it just hurts the people actually paying for it.

TruFax (tm)

No, I understand the difference. What i'm saying is, you can pay the same price you did when it was perpetual, and now you have nothing if you stop paying. 0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]No, I understand the difference. What i'm saying is, you can pay the same price you did when it was perpetual, and now you have nothing if you stop paying. Zeviander

When you stop your software no longer functions. You are paying for the upgrades still.  You can use CS 3 right now and do not have to upgrade(with perpetual license).  Have you used any adobe products? 

it makes sense for amateurs... for example.. you need to do a little bit of work in p-shop or illustrator, like a 1 time thing. who is going to pay $700 for the full suite to use it for a month? better solution is to just pay the month you need it and be done with it. it depends on what the user's needs are whether it'll be good for them or not. comp_atkins

It's a year subscription.

When you stop your software no longer functions. You are paying for the upgrades still. You can use CS 3 right now and do not have to upgrade(with perpetual license). Have you used any adobe products?0rbs

The subscription service is good for students that only need the software for the semester. I just wish Adobe would follow Autodesk and provide software for free to students.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]it makes sense for amateurs... for example.. you need to do a little bit of work in p-shop or illustrator, like a 1 time thing. who is going to pay $700 for the full suite to use it for a month? better solution is to just pay the month you need it and be done with it. it depends on what the user's needs are whether it'll be good for them or not. 0rbs

It's a year subscription.

[QUOTE="0rbs"]When you stop your software no longer functions. You are paying for the upgrades still. You can use CS 3 right now and do not have to upgrade(with perpetual license). Have you used any adobe products?Zeviander

CS 5 doesn't have the feature set that CS 6 offers, but 95 percent of the people that use it professionally see no real difference.  I understand the fact that you get upgrades all year for the flat monthly rate.  But you're missing the point that if you pay for a certain period of time which would have been equal to buying a perpetual license, you have nothing.

Also, they have a right to change the price anytime they want for any reason they want.  They pretty much have a monopoly.  The more you read into the situation the more you will not like it.  There's a huge backlash against this...especially on DPR.

They pretty much have a monopoly.0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]They pretty much have a monopoly.Zeviander

The people that cannot afford the software usually pirate it.  This destroys small business and a lot of the larger firms such as reuters and getty's are considering a mass exodus away from the suite.

The people that cannot afford the software usually pirate it. This destroys small business and a lot of the larger firms such as reuters and getty's are considering a mass exodus away from the suite.0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]The people that cannot afford the software usually pirate it. This destroys small business and a lot of the larger firms such as reuters and getty's are considering a mass exodus away from the suite.Zeviander

Photoshop for students is 200.  Now it's 240, and at the end of the year, you cannot use it anymore.

Adobe will make money on this, but a lot of professionals, and i'm talking people that are important in the industry are leaving the software suite.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="0rbs"]The people that cannot afford the software usually pirate it. This destroys small business and a lot of the larger firms such as reuters and getty's are considering a mass exodus away from the suite.0rbs

Photoshop for students is 200.  Now it's 240, and at the end of the year, you cannot use it anymore.

Adobe will make money on this, but a lot of professionals, and i'm talking people that are important in the industry are leaving the software suite.

[QUOTE="0rbs"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] -pirates will continue to pirate, nothing is lost or gained -students who cannot afford the perpetual license have another legal option to get the software outside of subsidization through their institution -any large business that refuses to use Adobe's software will only hurt themselves, as Adobe's software is top-of-the-line in that field This is a good business move for Adobe, they can increase their profits by increasing the amount of people who can use their software. I'm not seeing a problem here.Gallion-Beast

Photoshop for students is 200.  Now it's 240, and at the end of the year, you cannot use it anymore.

Adobe will make money on this, but a lot of professionals, and i'm talking people that are important in the industry are leaving the software suite.

Possibly yes.  A lot will milk CS 6 until a replacement is out.

Adobe will make money on this, but a lot of professionals, and i'm talking people that are important in the industry are leaving the software suite.0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]Adobe will make money on this, but a lot of professionals, and i'm talking people that are important in the industry are leaving the software suite.Zeviander

Gimp, pixelmator, corel, etc are catching up slowly but surely.

I really don't think you've had enough exposure to the industry.  The backlash is immense. Enough where adobe already has done some special promotions.

I don't know what you use, but there is always Gimp.

I don't know what you use, but there is always Gimp.

Serraph105

Gimp is catching up fast, but still has some leaps to go through.

I use CS 6  extended and Lightroom 4.

God, I hate Adobe.

Gimp, pixelmator, corel, etc are catching up slowly but surely.0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]Gimp, pixelmator, corel, etc are catching up slowly but surely.Zeviander

Curious, what in GIMP limits you that you can do in photoshop?

Curious, what in GIMP limits you that you can do in photoshop?0rbs

[QUOTE="0rbs"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] Adobe will always be one step ahead because of their market share and development revenue. Open source programs might get large followings, but they will always be limited by their lack of a real budget.Ackad

Curious, what in GIMP limits you that you can do in photoshop?

It does stitching, it does "multiplicity" shots.  It does extreme editing.  It doesn't do much 3d.

Better than charging $1000+ for software everybody needs but can't afford.

Software subscriptions are the only logical step for most companies these days... they can actually make money off their hard work.

Zeviander

[QUOTE="0rbs"]No, I understand the difference. What i'm saying is, you can pay the same price you did when it was perpetual, and now you have nothing if you stop paying. Zeviander

Any of you guys know where I can get CS4? Seems like that was the last best PhotoshopAckad

CS5 was good.  Content aware was fun for certain type of edits.

If you are a student you can ge CS 6 for under 300 now.

I can't blame Adobe. Their products are among the most pirated out there.

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="0rbs"]

[QUOTE="Ackad"]Any of you guys know where I can get CS4? Seems like that was the last best PhotoshopAckad

CS5 was good.  Content aware was fun for certain type of edits.

If you are a student you can ge CS 6 for under 300 now.

my bad, it's 349 now.  It was on sale not too long ago.

https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?event=displayProduct&categoryOID=7253698&store=OLS-EDU

Not really an issue IMO. There are alternatives to PS, some of which are free, that can do about 90% of what it can. For the absolute power users/pro's that need everything PS can do it is better value for them IMO.

Also from what I understand Renting Photoshop on it's own is only around $20/month. For a pro this is nothing.