2 teens charged because their friend drove drunk and died

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#1 Edited by mingmao3046 (2683 posts) -

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/teens-charged-as-accomplices-for-letting-friend-drive-drunk-194849860.html

wtf

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#2 Posted by ferrari2001 (17763 posts) -

Glad the law is stepping up and holding more and more people responsible for stupid behavior that kills people. People who drink and drive are scum of the earth and are basically ticking time bombs waiting to kill someone. If you let something like that happen you are basically assisting in someones death by not stepping up and being responsible.

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#3 Posted by Nibroc420 (13571 posts) -

@ferrari2001: they are not responsible for someone else's actions. Nor are they police, charged with enforcing law.

If you unlawfully take something someone else owns, against their wishes that is theft.

I hope the charges are dropped. This is crazy.

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#4 Edited by HuggyBear1020 (467 posts) -

So what are the being charged with? Being stupid teenagers? How did they even get the alcohol in the first place? Giving alcohol to minors is an actual crime.

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#5 Posted by foxhound_fox (97019 posts) -
@ferrari2001 said:

Glad the law is stepping up and holding more and more people responsible for stupid behavior that kills people. People who drink and drive are scum of the earth and are basically ticking time bombs waiting to kill someone. If you let something like that happen you are basically assisting in someones death by not stepping up and being responsible.

+1

Preventing crime isn't just the responsibility of the police, it is the responsibility of everybody. They can't be everywhere and at all times, so if you can save a friend's life (and any life they might destroy by driving drunk) by taking their keys away and telling them they aren't driving anywhere, then I'm all in favour of it.

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#6 Edited by Nibroc420 (13571 posts) -

@foxhound_fox: if you take someones keys from them, against their wishes, you're stealing.

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#7 Posted by Master_Live (18821 posts) -

Fvck that shit.

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#8 Posted by ssvegeta555 (2442 posts) -

@Nibroc420 said:

@foxhound_fox: if you take someones keys from them, against their wishes, you're stealing.

If they're drunk, they're incapable of making rational decisions. It wouldn't be stealing in that case. Even then, it's still better than having a friend drink and drive.

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#9 Posted by foxhound_fox (97019 posts) -
@Nibroc420 said:

@foxhound_fox: if you take someones keys from them, against their wishes, you're stealing.

So arrest them for stealing. A judge would dismiss the case knowing they prevented the person from driving drunk. Don't be a gerg.

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#10 Edited by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:
@Nibroc420 said:

@foxhound_fox: if you take someones keys from them, against their wishes, you're stealing.

So arrest them for stealing. A judge would dismiss the case knowing they prevented the person from driving drunk. Don't be a gerg.

Yeah, a Judge would use Common law. You would be dropped of all charges if some dumbass officer arrest you for "Stealing your drunk friends keys".

"Don't be a Gerg" sounds like a very derogatory term. Kinda like the R-word.

I do think this is bullshit, though.

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#11 Posted by foxhound_fox (97019 posts) -
@Fightingfan said:

"Don't be a Gerg" sounds like a very derogatory term.

That's the idea.

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#12 Edited by RAGEofSTUNTS (733 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:
@ferrari2001 said:

Glad the law is stepping up and holding more and more people responsible for stupid behavior that kills people. People who drink and drive are scum of the earth and are basically ticking time bombs waiting to kill someone. If you let something like that happen you are basically assisting in someones death by not stepping up and being responsible.

+1

Preventing crime isn't just the responsibility of the police, it is the responsibility of everybody. They can't be everywhere and at all times, so if you can save a friend's life (and any life they might destroy by driving drunk) by taking their keys away and telling them they aren't driving anywhere, then I'm all in favour of it.

It is the police's duty, for citizens it is just their responsibility.

Someone shouldn't be charged by the law for a responsibility; besides, you can't always steal someone's keys, save a life, or wait there with no way to get home.

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#13 Edited by Barbariser (6785 posts) -

I don't know about the legal ramifications of this, but IMO they at least should have known better than to put themselves in a car driven by someone with a blood alcohol concentration 13 times over the legal limit.

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#14 Posted by Sword-Demon (7007 posts) -

They're morons for letting their friend drive drunk, but they're not legally obligated to stop her from making stupid decisions.

people are responsible for their own actions, regardless of how drunk they are; charging someone for letting their friend make her own decisions is asinine.

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#15 Edited by Nibroc420 (13571 posts) -
@Fightingfan said:

You would be dropped of all charges if some dumbass officer arrest you for "Stealing your drunk friends keys".

What sort of friend steals from their friends?

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d (7914 posts) -

Charge the teenage friends, their parents, their grandparents, all the way back to Adam for this sin of humanity

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#17 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (5011 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:
@Nibroc420 said:

@foxhound_fox: if you take someones keys from them, against their wishes, you're stealing.

So arrest them for stealing. A judge would dismiss the case knowing they prevented the person from driving drunk. Don't be a gerg.

You'd think, but dumber things have happened.

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#18 Edited by betamaxx83 (360 posts) -

Anybody that let's a friend drive drunk should be held accountable, sorry but you know how many innocent lives have been taken due to something preventable? I drove slightly buzzed one time and would never do it again. I call a taxi when I am out downtown partying. It's better to pay up some cash, than being responsible for somebody's death, or dying yourself.

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#19 Posted by junglist101 (5517 posts) -

@ferrari2001@foxhound_fox You two are spewing a whole lot of nonsense. You want to live in a country where people can be punished for the actions of others? I hear communist China or the People's Republic of Korea is nice.

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#20 Edited by BranKetra (51726 posts) -

@ferrari2001 said:

Glad the law is stepping up and holding more and more people responsible for stupid behavior that kills people. People who drink and drive are scum of the earth and are basically ticking time bombs waiting to kill someone. If you let something like that happen you are basically assisting in someones death by not stepping up and being responsible.

This is ridiculous.

1) Since when have individuals not been responsible for their own actions?

2) Do a sober mother and her children have the same responsibility for an abusive, manipulative, and uncontrollable alcoholic father?

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#21 Edited by LJS9502_basic (163091 posts) -

Unless there is more to the story...it'll be dropped. And the charges should be. It's ridiculous to hold someone else responsible because they "might" have knowledge.

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#22 Edited by Shmiity (6099 posts) -

Definitely some over-reaching. Holding someone else responsible because they "could" have knowledge, or "could" have prevented a situation is insane. It's a sad story, sure. But she is responsible for her actions, not anyone else. Also, the only crime I see is if someone over legal age supplied the alcohol.