14 states may try to target birthright citizenship

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/14-states-may-target-birthright-citizenship

Arizona lawmakers are trying to introduce legislation to deny giving citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants who are born in the country. With that, lawmakers in 13 other states say they support the proposed legislation and are considering similar legislation. The argument that was bought up by the lawmakers is that the 14th Amendment was meant to give citizenship to the children of freed slaves, not to the children of foreigners.

Rather than give my opinion right now, I'm just going to post this and warn people to bring their flame shields in discussing this.

We should throw the children back into the sea from which they came!

I don't think so.. Its not the children's fault for something they had no control over.. I would rather they become American citizens than possibly shipped off to a poverty stricken dangerous place.. I just find it immoral that we could allow that.sSubZerOo

I don't think being born here should give the kids and, by default, the parents citizenship. It is a flaw in the system that is WILDLY taken advantage of.

We should throw the children back into the sea from which they came!

toast_burner

I actually like this. The child of an illegal immigrant is still an illegal immigrant.

BRING IT ON:o!!!!!

My feeling is, if you are born in the U.S., you should automatically be considered a U.S. citizen.

My feeling is, if you are born in the U.S., you should automatically be considered a U.S. citizen.

entropyecho

So much for being the country of freedom :)

So much for being the country of freedom :)

brendanhunt1

Let them do what they want, the US Constitution takes precedence over state law so it doesn't matter.chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Let them do what they want, the US Constitution takes precedence over state law so it doesn't matter.xaos

[QUOTE="brendanhunt1"]

So much for being the country of freedom :)

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="brendanhunt1"]

So much for being the country of freedom :)

toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's a free country for her citizens. Not for everyone on earth.

Pirate700

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

I agree with this in a way, I dont think that a child should be able to be used as a tether to allow people to become citizens of a country free. However kicking babies out of the USA is a terrible idea.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] You are aware that most people in America are immigrants?

chessmaster1989

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]What are you talking about?

Pirate700

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Most people in the US are 1st generation? I don't buy it.

Pirate700

Unless Arizona secedes they won't be able to do anything. Constitution will overrule the new law.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Most people in the US are 1st generation? I don't buy it.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's a free country for her citizens. Not for everyone on earth.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] He didn't say first generation; I think that the point was how many generations have to be born here before you consider someone eligible for citizenshiptoast_burner

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] He didn't say first generation; I think that the point was how many generations have to be born here before you consider someone eligible for citizenshipxaos

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]He said most people in the US are immigrants. That would mean they were born elsewhere.

Pirate700

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

Thank goodness my state isn't on there. smh

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Well by the standards of this proposed change, people born here to parents from somewhere else would not be citizens, so it's a reasonable inference that their children would also not be citizens.xaos

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

If I become a "born again Christian" while in the U.S., may I claim U.S. citizenship?

:P

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Well by the standards of this proposed change, people born here to parents from somewhere else would not be citizens, so it's a reasonable inference that their children would also not be citizens.xaos

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

Pirate700

Who wants to guess that some of the people proposing this are birthers?PannicAtack

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Kids from parents that came here legally through traditional means would not be affected by this.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Following that reasoning, we should all be governed by the Indian nations of North America, amirite?xaos

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Following that reasoning, we should all be governed by the Indian nations of North America, amirite?xaos

You can't possibly compare developing a relatively uncharted country to this. Now if we all get a cut of the Casino money though I may be singing a different song. :P

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]What are you talking about?

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]No we shouldn't.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

He means most people are (legal) immigrants or descendants of immigrants.