13 year old chinese-american girl kill herself because of white students

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#1  Edited By iloveatlus
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wow, this is horrible. her adopted parents got in touch with the students parents, but none of them done anything, not even the school did anything. how did she get her hand on a gun? i hate irresponsible gun owner letting their kid get access to weapon

A 13-year-old Ohio girl of Chinese descent was continually assaulted, bullied and harassed online by white students before she killed herself, a new lawsuit claims.

A group of students also ridiculed Emilie as being "fake white" because she wore cowboy boots and western clothing. They told her she couldn't be "white" because she was Asian and/or Chinese, the lawsuit charges.

Emilie was scared to go back to school in seventh grade, according to the Enquirer. “Why can’t I be white like you and mom?” she asked her adopted father at one point, according to the paper.

The lawsuit documents many disturbing incidents of harassment. Emilie, who was adopted by her parents when she was nine months old, shot herself in the head.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-girl-chinese-descent-bullied-suicide-suit-article-1.2468016

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#2 darklight4
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That's depressing. Schools seem to not take bullying seriously as they should. When I was at school a girl in a lower year group hung herself because of bullying. I have zero tolerence for bullies.

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Never understand why bullies aren't stopped. Shame and I feel bad for the family. Horrible children. Just horrible.

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Race bait.

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Every time I hear these stories... I tend not feel a thing or care at all.

Idk what it is... a random person out there... a teen... killing themselves... for a silly reason...

Im sorry but I never give a crap and think its silly when people give this stuff attention.

(Watch me, once again, get modded possibly banned for life now simply for having an unpopular opinion)

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#6  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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@foxhound_fox said:

Race bait.

We're on to you TC.

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Terrible. Bullying can really be a terrible thing and online bullying has only seemed to make things worse. Some people just become absolutely horrible when they get online.

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The big problem with bullying cases is more often than not if the kid defends themselves then they get expelled or something whiles the kids doing the bullying get nothing.

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The big problem with bullying cases is more often than not if the kid defends themselves then they get expelled or something whiles the kids doing the bullying get nothing.

SO FUCKING TRUE!

Being the shortest guy in my grade and being socially awkward to boot, I was a bully magnet all through Elementary, Middle, and High School. I tried so many times to ignore the bullies and take the high road, even ignoring when they initially would start to hit me. Then the fuckers wouldn't let up and I finally took it upon myself to defend myself and of course that's when the teacher finally shows up and boom, I get the same punishment as the bully!

There were maybe one or two times I actually saw the bully get in worse trouble, and one of those times was when the bully had me bleeding from my damn head after bashing me with my lunchbox (the zipper got me good...).

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"While she was in sixth grade, a girl followed Emilie into the restroom and handed her a razor and told her to "end her life," the lawsuit claims. On another occasion the same student told Emilie on social media to "go cut one of your vanes and die cuz I will be glad."

"Emilie is a whore" and "Go kill yourself Emilie" were scribbled on bathroom stalls, according to the Enquirer.

A fake social media account titled "Emilie Olsen is Gay" was created, where it was claimed that Emilie had sex with random people in the woods, according to the paper.

A group of students also ridiculed Emilie as being "fake country" because she wore cowboy boots and camouflage clothing. They told her she couldn't be "country" because she was Asian and/or Chinese, the lawsuit charges."

Damn, I was bullied. But this is is some heavy shit.

Is this what bullying is now? I take back everything I've said; bullying now is much worse than it was back in the day. I mean, you might get your ass beat 20 years ago, but now that you can get in serious trouble for physical violence, the mental abuse has gotten ten times worse.

I'd gladly take a beating that be subject to things like that girl was.

Worse:

"A fake social media account titled "Emilie Olsen is Gay" was created, where it was claimed that Emilie had sex with random people in the woods, according to the paper.

A group of students also ridiculed Emilie as being "fake country" because she wore cowboy boots and camouflage clothing. They told her she couldn't be "country" because she was Asian and/or Chinese, the lawsuit charges."

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I was bullied so much in high school all I wanted to do was just fight them all. It's sad when you end up hurting yourself though. This is a very sad story. I thought crap like this happened 50 years ago not today.

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I wonder how those kids are going to feel or be like when they grow up. There is no way you gonna be in your 20s and be OK with the fact that you drove someone to commit suicide.

I'm not gonna lie I did bullied some kids because they were different ( I couldn't tolerate girly guys as a kid) when I was younger, but I bullied them once and that was it. The fact that I did that isn't stopping me from sleeping at night, but I still regret my decisions so I just wonder how those kids are going to feel.

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There is no way you gonna be in your 20s and be OK with the fact that you drove someone to commit suicide.

Most of them won't even remember it when they turn 20, that's how sick the human mind is.

Biggest question is, where are the parents? Control what your kid is doing on the internet and how they behave at school. I would have gotten a real thrashing if I bullied someone in my youth by my parents.

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This is just sad that Bulling is even a major problem then it was several many years ago. My Dad always encourage me to fight back to defend yourself, I had to show them I'm not one of those weaklings, I'll fight to defend myself if I had to.

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What has changed making people kill themselves? Years ago when I was in school people were bullied but normally you stood up for yourself (using various methods) and that squashed it. Kids didn't kill themselves back then. Someone will take those words literally when they are not meant to be.

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@Solaryellow said:

What has changed making people kill themselves? Years ago when I was in school people were bullied but normally you stood up for yourself (using various methods) and that squashed it. Kids didn't kill themselves back then. Someone will take those words literally when they are not meant to be.

Of course kids killed themselves back then.

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Of course kids killed themselves back then.

Certainly people (kids) offed themselves but it wasn't a common occurrence like it is today. When I look back and remember a few kids who killed themselves (one hanging, one with a 45/70) it was because they broke up with a girl and even when that happened it was quite rare. Everything today has taken a drastic swing.

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#20  Edited By deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@Solaryellow said:

What has changed making people kill themselves? Years ago when I was in school people were bullied but normally you stood up for yourself (using various methods) and that squashed it. Kids didn't kill themselves back then. Someone will take those words literally when they are not meant to be.

The suicide rate is actually the same as it was in the 80's. It decreased a bit in the 90's and early 2000's but has gradually gone back up to it's previous levels. The group with the largest increase is 45-64 year olds. While teenagers and children have stayed pretty much the same.

https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures

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#21 Solaryellow
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@toast_burner

This discussion is about a specific reason for suicide rather than a cumulative look at suicide over the years. How many kids killed themselves over bullying in the 80's or 90's compared to now?

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#22  Edited By Renevent42
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It's probably roughly the same, we just hear about it more because these are hot news stories these days. This one is particular juicy too with the perpetrators being white and the victim a minority. The 24 hour news cycle couldn't dream of a more exciting child suicide story.

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#KillAllWhiteMales ! (Sarcarsm, btw...)

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@Solaryellow said:

@toast_burner

This discussion is about a specific reason for suicide rather than a cumulative look at suicide over the years. How many kids killed themselves over bullying in the 80's or 90's compared to now?

I don't know for certain but it's safe to assume that it would have been about the same.

Do you have any evidence to support your argument?

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@toast_burner said:

I don't know for certain but it's safe to assume that it would have been about the same.

Do you have any evidence to support your argument?

No it isn't safe to assume anything. With the advent of social media I believe suicide over bullying would be higher today than during the times when we didn't have all of these outputs. My evidence is most likely in the same boat as yours. Life was a lot different when I was a kid growing up compared to kids of today. Bullying and being made fun of always existed. That's just in the nature of humans.

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@Solaryellow said:
@toast_burner said:

I don't know for certain but it's safe to assume that it would have been about the same.

Do you have any evidence to support your argument?

No it isn't safe to assume anything. With the advent of social media I believe suicide over bullying would be higher today than during the times when we didn't have all of these outputs. My evidence is most likely in the same boat as yours. Life was a lot different when I was a kid growing up compared to kids of today. Bullying and being made fun of always existed. That's just in the nature of humans.

My evidence comes from statistics that show no significant increase in suicides amongst young people, yours is based on nothing other than personal experience.

So again do you have any actual evidence to support your claim?

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@toast_burner said:

My evidence comes from statistics that show no significant increase in suicides amongst young people, yours is based on nothing other than personal experience.

So again do you have any actual evidence to support your claim?

Again, my evidence is in the same boat as yours. You admit to assuming while I'm making mention of viewing the world around me as a teen. Unless you can find facts showing the breakdown of suicides based on the results of bullying, I'll continue viewing your words as nothing more than opinion rather than giving them credence.

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#29  Edited By LostProphetFLCL
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@toast_burner said:
@Solaryellow said:

What has changed making people kill themselves? Years ago when I was in school people were bullied but normally you stood up for yourself (using various methods) and that squashed it. Kids didn't kill themselves back then. Someone will take those words literally when they are not meant to be.

The suicide rate is actually the same as it was in the 80's. It decreased a bit in the 90's and early 2000's but has gradually gone back up to it's previous levels. The group with the largest increase is 45-64 year olds. While teenagers and children have stayed pretty much the same.

https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures

How much you wanna bet that the increase is because of the economy?

Looking at the age group at which the suicide rate increased, I bet it jumped back up because of people losing their jobs and not being able to support their families and such which is just sad...

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@Solaryellow said:
@toast_burner said:

My evidence comes from statistics that show no significant increase in suicides amongst young people, yours is based on nothing other than personal experience.

So again do you have any actual evidence to support your claim?

Again, my evidence is in the same boat as yours. You admit to assuming while I'm making mention of viewing the world around me as a teen. Unless you can find facts showing the breakdown of suicides based on the results of bullying, I'll continue viewing your words as nothing more than opinion rather than giving them credence.

There's a difference between making an assumption based on facts, and making an assumption based on nothing.

Like I said I gave you actual statistics, you gave nothing.

@LostProphetFLCL: That would be the most likely explanation. It's going to be a lot harder for someone who's been working in a company for 20 years and has people who depend on them than it is for someone who's young and has other people to rely on.

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wow, this is horrible. her adopted parents got in touch with the students parents, but none of them done anything, not even the school did anything. how did she get her hand on a gun? i hate irresponsible gun owner letting their kid get access to weapon

A 13-year-old Ohio girl of Chinese descent was continually assaulted, bullied and harassed online by white students before she killed herself, a new lawsuit claims.

A group of students also ridiculed Emilie as being "fake white" because she wore cowboy boots and western clothing. They told her she couldn't be "white" because she was Asian and/or Chinese, the lawsuit charges.

Emilie was scared to go back to school in seventh grade, according to the Enquirer. “Why can’t I be white like you and mom?” she asked her adopted father at one point, according to the paper.

The lawsuit documents many disturbing incidents of harassment. Emilie, who was adopted by her parents when she was nine months old, shot herself in the head.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-girl-chinese-descent-bullied-suicide-suit-article-1.2468016

There's actually more to the story. But getting bullied was a huge part of it. Here's a video that works.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-parents-allege-school-bullying-suit-teens-suicide/story?id=35793899

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#32  Edited By Solaryellow
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@toast_burner said:

There's a difference between making an assumption based on facts, and making an assumption based on nothing.

Like I said I gave you actual statistics, you gave nothing.

Ahhh your assuming is acceptable based on facts that do nothing to support your stance on bullying? Gotcha.

I'll give you one: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/cyberbullying-linked-suicides-rising-study-says-1.1213435

I think it is safe to say since we didn't have "cyber bullying" in my day coupled with how common it is today with the end result being suicide, well, you know what opinion I will express. The ways in which to bully someone are so much easier with technology today and you read how these kids have killed themselves as a result of being bullied on all forms of social media.

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So, how common are bullying-related suicides today? How common were they in, let's say, the 80's? Have they become more common or less common? If they've become more common, how much more common are they?

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nothing more sadistic than a teenage girl...

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@Solaryellow said:

What has changed making people kill themselves? Years ago when I was in school people were bullied but normally you stood up for yourself (using various methods) and that squashed it. Kids didn't kill themselves back then. Someone will take those words literally when they are not meant to be.

Internet & mobile phone...always connected = constant harrassment - school & at home...& kids these days just cannot get off them, just look at people nowadays walking with their face stuck looking at their phone..not even looking where they are walking, heck worse crossing the road still looking at their phone, :P

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Race bait.

This. Lock thread. And why single out the other groups race? Oh yeah, white puple bad. Oh, and blacks and Hispanics say the same crap.

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@iloveatlus said:

wow, this is horrible. her adopted parents got in touch with the students parents, but none of them done anything, not even the school did anything. how did she get her hand on a gun? i hate irresponsible gun owner letting their kid get access to weapon

A 13-year-old Ohio girl of Chinese descent was continually assaulted, bullied and harassed online by white students before she killed herself, a new lawsuit claims.

A group of students also ridiculed Emilie as being "fake white" because she wore cowboy boots and western clothing. They told her she couldn't be "white" because she was Asian and/or Chinese, the lawsuit charges.

Emilie was scared to go back to school in seventh grade, according to the Enquirer. “Why can’t I be white like you and mom?” she asked her adopted father at one point, according to the paper.

The lawsuit documents many disturbing incidents of harassment. Emilie, who was adopted by her parents when she was nine months old, shot herself in the head.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-girl-chinese-descent-bullied-suicide-suit-article-1.2468016

Hmm, nice race bait article.

Also No one kills themselves solely because of what happens online , they clearly have other issues, and if it wasn´t something online, it would have been something else.

It´s sad tho that she ended up killing herself, only 13 and just barely begun to experience life.

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@topgunmv said:

The big problem with bullying cases is more often than not if the kid defends themselves then they get expelled or something whiles the kids doing the bullying get nothing.

Yup. They would make it out it you the bad person. I was lucky at school though but I was bullied from 1st year of high school threw to end of 5th but more so in 5th year. By the middle of the 5th year I got fed up of it and went to teacher even though I have done be for they didn't listen. But this time they did. The next morning my form teacher shouted so loud at all the class and even said if it continues there be police involved even if the bullying is after school. The next 6 month no one bullied me since. So at least the teacher listened to in the end.

But as said glad I don't go now with all the internet and facebook. Even now facebook is one big popularity contest to see how many friends and see how many likes you can get. This last year I deleted half of the people on it.

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Those white devils at it again. Kappa.

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@iloveatlus said:

wow, this is horrible. her adopted parents got in touch with the students parents, but none of them done anything, not even the school did anything. how did she get her hand on a gun? i hate irresponsible gun owner letting their kid get access to weapon

"Irresponsible gun owner letting their [mentally ill] kids get access to weapon". Like most thing that tend to spark the gun control debate, the cause isn't as much guns as it is based on societal and cultural issues.


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Unfortunately, the only way to end bullying is to teach your kids to stand up to them. I was raised to be a pacifist and I got walked on up until about the ninth grade when I went against my parents' teachings and struck out at bullies. Both times, the bullying stopped. There is so much wasted energy in bullying prevention when again, like I said, the proper thing to do is teach the kids to stand up to the bullies and for the love of God stop punishing them when they're victims of it because they stand up for themselves! Bullying happens in adulthood as well, and if you don't develop those tools as a child, you're going to have a rough time later in life. "Violence isn't the answer." It certainly damn well is in some instances.... If I ever have a kid, they sure as shit won't be a pacifist.

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@JustPlainLucas said:

Unfortunately, the only way to end bullying is to teach your kids to stand up to them. I was raised to be a pacifist and I got walked on up until about the ninth grade when I went against my parents' teachings and struck out at bullies. Both times, the bullying stopped. There is so much wasted energy in bullying prevention when again, like I said, the proper thing to do is teach the kids to stand up to the bullies and for the love of God stop punishing them when they're victims of it because they stand up for themselves! Bullying happens in adulthood as well, and if you don't develop those tools as a child, you're going to have a rough time later in life. "Violence isn't the answer." It certainly damn well is in some instances.... If I ever have a kid, they sure as shit won't be a pacifist.

The thing is, it isn't nearly that simple. Yes, SOMETIMES standing up to bullies gets them to stop. And sometimes standing up to them just results in them delivering a more merciless beatdown. It really just depends. But my point is that bullying isn't such a simple thing that it's only done for one simple reason. It's not like there's one single reason why people become bullies, and that we can then nail down one single thing that makes them stop. If it were that simple, then there wouldn't be any more bullies. The unfortunate reality is that human behavior isn't that simple, and that there isn't just some magic button we can push in order to get them to behave like we want. Yes, SOMETIMES standing up to bullies works. But that can also backfire horribly.

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@MrGeezer said:
@JustPlainLucas said:

Unfortunately, the only way to end bullying is to teach your kids to stand up to them. I was raised to be a pacifist and I got walked on up until about the ninth grade when I went against my parents' teachings and struck out at bullies. Both times, the bullying stopped. There is so much wasted energy in bullying prevention when again, like I said, the proper thing to do is teach the kids to stand up to the bullies and for the love of God stop punishing them when they're victims of it because they stand up for themselves! Bullying happens in adulthood as well, and if you don't develop those tools as a child, you're going to have a rough time later in life. "Violence isn't the answer." It certainly damn well is in some instances.... If I ever have a kid, they sure as shit won't be a pacifist.

The thing is, it isn't nearly that simple. Yes, SOMETIMES standing up to bullies gets them to stop. And sometimes standing up to them just results in them delivering a more merciless beatdown. It really just depends. But my point is that bullying isn't such a simple thing that it's only done for one simple reason. It's not like there's one single reason why people become bullies, and that we can then nail down one single thing that makes them stop. If it were that simple, then there wouldn't be any more bullies. The unfortunate reality is that human behavior isn't that simple, and that there isn't just some magic button we can push in order to get them to behave like we want. Yes, SOMETIMES standing up to bullies works. But that can also backfire horribly.

Kids that age shouldn't have the rights to access social media or there should be some type of punishment in case of cyberbullying. Bullying is one thing, but cyberbullying bullies you in the comfort of your own home.

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#44  Edited By Riverwolf007
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why did nobody ever teach her how much better she was than everyone else around her?

seriously, her ancestors were eating noodles off china plates in a restaurant before going to their job working on a public works project while those kids lice and flea ridden serf ancestors were living in a dismal filthy plague hut with farm animals.

i would have had her ego so puffed up she would have chuckled every time someone said a mean thing to her.

i mean lol right? a caucasian laughing at an asian? the whole concept is laughable. nobody had the balls to teach her that?

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#46  Edited By PSP107
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@Riverwolf007: "seriously, her ancestors were eating noodles off china plates in a restaurant before going to their job working on a public works project while those kids lice and flea ridden serf ancestors were living in a dismal filthy plague hut with farm animals."

Did her foster parents tell her that?

After reading the link, I wouldn't be surprised if she was murdered.