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#1 Bauers-Twin
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is there a hip hop on the books union? or did you guys just want a cool name? What does off the books mean? and what books isit referring to?
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#2 muffincakes87
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Because of this if I'm not mistaken.
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#3 -Halftime-
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Because of this if I'm not mistaken.muffincakes87

You are correct.

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#4 Orlando_Magic
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In accounting, you record financial transactions in a book referred to as a ledger. "Off the books" is the phrase that describes the transactions that you choose not to record and you could choose to do so for a number of reasons. If your transaction was illegal, it would probably be wise not to record it in your books as if to tip off your illegal activities.

Someone can correct me here if I'm wrong, but Al Capone was convicted of income tax evasion because of his improper records. Capone misrepresented his financial transactions and kept his illegal transactions off the books. People became suspicious of him because his income was so high while having no recorded means for this income. It would be his accounting that became his downfall. They couldn't convict Al Capone of any murders, but they could convict him because of his records and all these financial transactions that were kept off the books which he did not pay taxes for.

In the song "Off the Books" that muffincakes mentioned, they are boasting about how they are getting "money off the books this year." You're probably smart enough to understand how they're getting this money.

Urban communities typically have an abundance of transactions that are "off the books." You can read about it in books like Off the Books: The Underground Economy of the Urban Poor:

In Off the Books, Sudhir Alladi Venkatesh defines the underground economy as 'a web in which many different people, from the criminal to the pious, from the down-and-out to the bourgeois, are inextricably intertwined'...The story Venkatesh tells in Off the Books is specific to Maquis Park, but the underground economy he found there almost certainly has its counterpart in the black ghettos of large cities. Indeed, its reach extends beyond the ghetto to the kitchens of restaurants, the homes of the well-off and the myriad service jobs that employ workers off the books. Yet it remains in the shadows, barely touched by researchers, a vast world usually ignored, misunderstood, or dismissed with stereotypes. Venkatesh's riveting account describes the underground economy through vividly realized characters...[His] dissection of Maquis Park's underground economy overturns one stereotype and common assumption about the urban poor after another...Venkatesh finds the underground economy's origins in the racism, economic devastation, and political abandonment that have decimated many big American cities...What can be done? Venkatesh offers no concrete remedies. But that is not his point. Off the Books is not about policy. Wonderfully written, brilliantly researched, it illuminates, as no other book has done, the ubiquitous world of shady activities that structure everyday life for the residents of the nation's Maquis Parks in ways few Americans observe or understand.

-Chicago Tribune

Metaphorically, in the case of a forum such as this one, you could say that "off the books" refers to something that is secretive in nature that you do not want regulated by the rules of the system. It is rebellious to the system but still manages a way to have structure and run day in and day out.

But hey, I'm sure the "Jedi Council Union" has a lot more meaning behind its name so why don't you go back over there.

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#5 tmac200913
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But hey, I'm sure the "Jedi Council Union" has a lot more meaning behind its name so why don't you go back over there.

Orlando_Magic

lol

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#6 andyboiii
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the TC has been ethered by Orlandobot  :lol:

[spoiler] lol [/spoiler]

 

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Orlando:lol:
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#8 TheBigTicket21
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

But hey, I'm sure "Jedi Union Council" has a lot more meaning behind its name so why don't you go back over there.

tmac200913

lol

I looked at their board and they have this thing where they are trying to get a higher number of posts/views than us, it's laughably pathetic.
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#9 andyboiii
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is the guy that's reporting some of our posts in the union
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#11 Magna_Man109
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[QUOTE="tmac200913"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

But hey, I'm sure "Jedi Union Council" has a lot more meaning behind its name so why don't you go back over there.

TheBigTicket21

lol

I looked at their board and they have this thing where they are trying to get a higher number of posts/views than us, it's laughably pathetic.

Wow that is quite lame ha. 

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#16 Orlando_Magic
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I would advise you to not go over there to flame them, and ending up getting suspended. They're honestly not worth it. That would be what they want.

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#17 189245455704665724390135605497
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yea my post was deleted hahaha
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yea my post was deleted hahahaWorstGameEver
I'm still going strong 8) Jedi Council ftw
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Orlando you never seize to stop owning.
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#20 HaSheeSh_basic
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

But hey, I'm sure the "Jedi Council Union" has a lot more meaning behind its name so why don't you go back over there.

tmac200913

lol

lmfao at this guy from TJCU. All they do is spam posts. Orlando owns
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#21 Giangio
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Orlando you never seize to stop owning.Colt45fool
riiiiiiiiiight...
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]Orlando you never seize to stop owning.Giangio
riiiiiiiiiight...

lol, go back to the hole you came from :P
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#24 fat_rob
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:| the type of hip-hop we discuss is outside the purview of the mainstream...or...off the books...
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#25 Mr_Anonymous98
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The Jedi Council Union does not endorse this thread, and takes no responsibility for how much BT just got owned.
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#26 Bauers-Twin
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The Jedi Council Union does not endorse this thread, and takes no responsibility for how much BT just got owned.Mr_Anonymous98

what are you talkin about man? I love rap/hip hop. Even though I can't tell the difference.

Can I Kick It? yes you can brotha, yes you can.

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#27 Mr_Anonymous98
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No man, snap out of it! Get him out of here before it's too late!
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#28 -PuLse
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What an interesting turn of events.
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#29 X-Fade
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This thread reminds me of some King23 type ish lol. :P
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#30 Bauers-Twin
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So can it be off any books? Or is there perticular books?
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#31 TheHimura
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So can it be off any books? Or is there perticular books?Bauers-Twin

no we don't read cuz we ghetto cuz we listen to rap

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#32 Bauers-Twin
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[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]So can it be off any books? Or is there perticular books?TheHimura

no we don't read cuz we ghetto cuz we listen to rap

ohhh?

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#33 Orlando_Magic
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So can it be off any books? Or is there perticular books?Bauers-Twin

"In accounting, you record financial transactions in a book referred to as a ledger. "Off the books" is the phrase that describes the transactions that you choose not to record and you could choose to do so for a number of reasons. If your transaction was illegal, it would probably be wise not to record it in your books as if to tip off your illegal activities."

I'm pretty sure I explained that to you on the first page. In todays accounting world, people obviously use computers now but the terminology is still the same.

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#34 fat_rob
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I'm seriously bout to unleash the lockness monster on this thread...
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#35 Orlando_Magic
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I'm seriously bout to unleash the lockness monster on this thread... fat_rob

Agreed, Bauers is obviously trolling. It's also not his first thread in Off the Books either. He made some thread here a long time ago about how rap sucked and posted an AC/DC video as proof lol.

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#36 fat_rob
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apparently we are teh ghetto peoples in this thread

lol who remembers that rap battle we were supposed to have with HHRC or the one with that dude Tendo :lol: @ all our e-beefs. 

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#37 189245455704665724390135605497
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Apparently thier leader has been suspended and a lot of thier members are getting moderations now, and of course they're blaming us, if someone in this union is reporting them, please stop...although I don't think anyone thats active here is lame enough to be doing that with thier time, just don't go reporting them for no reason