What the...?! Miyamoto didn't make Mario Galaxy?!

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#1 Wintry_Flutist
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Sure he was involved. But there's a new name in the staff you better remember:

Yoshiaki Koizumi.

After reading the following interview, one can say he is for Mario what Eiji Aonuma is for Zelda. Miyamoto work is mostly to select Koizumi's best ideas and point overall directions to go through development.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/838/838587p1.html

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#2 movin_target
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Zuh?
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#3 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Ummm... duh. Miyamoto is credited for a lot of stuff that he doesn't really deserve as much credit as he gets. Thankfully, even Miyamoto himself is aware of that, and is always pretty modest. He was still involved though, he just wasn't the one doing the physical work of making the game. He did make the spherical concept though.

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#4 Wintry_Flutist
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Zuh?movin_target

I'm just introducing a guy on whom we should keep an eye, since he just made the best game since Ocarina of Time.

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#5 Duckman5
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He basically watched over it.
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#6 Sants412
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I like that guy better anyway, he has sweet chin hair.
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#7 Duckman5
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I like that guy better anyway, he has sweet chin hair.Sants412
? :question: :? :lol:
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#8 Wintry_Flutist
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He basically watched over it.Duckman5

Koizumi? Nah, according to that interview, as a director his work was close to the one of a game designer, he came up with almost every element, while Miyamoto chose the overall concepts. I do not know if it's usual to design that much being a director, but Koizumi did it. Besides, it's silly to say a director "watches over it", mainly in this case, you gotta be passionated to make a good Mario game.

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#9 Sants412
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[QUOTE="Duckman5"]He basically watched over it.Wintry_Flutist

Koizumi? Nah, according to that interview, as a director his work was close to the one of a game designer, he came up with almost every element, while Miyamoto chose the overall concepts. I do not if it's usual to design that much being a director, butKoizumi did it. Besides, it's silly to say a director "watches over it", mainly in this case, you gotta be passionated to make a good Mario game.

I think duckyboy was talking about Miyamoto.
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#10 Bubble_Man
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Just because new people are working on the games doesn't mean that Miyamoto isn't a genius who defined gaming. The poor fellow is getting old. Considering this, it's good that he's found and trained new talent to carry the legacy on.
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#11 Wintry_Flutist
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Just because new people are working on the games doesn't mean that Miyamoto isn't a genius who defined gaming. The poor fellow is getting old. Considering this, it's good that he's found and trained new talent to carry the legacy on.Bubble_Man

No one is contesting Miyamoto talents. But we must know who deserves credit and may come up with tomorrow's gaming jewels.

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#12 Minishdriveby
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I thought everyone knew the guy and team from DK Jungle Beat was in charge of the game. They said they started making Galaxy right after DK. Its kind of funny. Nintendo always picks teams that barely have any experience. Retro, makes their first game (metroid Prime) and now Nintendo picks these guys to do DK (their first game) and Galaxy (there second game). And bothteams wereexcellent.
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#13 Travo_basic
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I'm sure he had a lot of involvement.
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#14 Duckman5
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="Duckman5"]He basically watched over it.Sants412

Koizumi? Nah, according to that interview, as a director his work was close to the one of a game designer, he came up with almost every element, while Miyamoto chose the overall concepts. I do not if it's usual to design that much being a director, butKoizumi did it. Besides, it's silly to say a director "watches over it", mainly in this case, you gotta be passionated to make a good Mario game.

I think duckyboy was talking about Miyamoto.

I was. Thank you for interjecting santa.

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#15 Wintry_Flutist
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I was. Thank you for interjecting santa.Duckman5

:x

I'm sure he had a lot of involvement.Travo_basic

Read the interview. Just because Galaxy is good, you don't need to desperately believe Miyamoto made it all happen.

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#16 Duckman5
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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"]I'm sure he had a lot of involvement.Wintry_Flutist

Read the interview. Just because Galaxy is good, you don't need to desperately believe Miyamoto made it allhappen.

Yup that guy was the director. Miyamoto was like the supervisor. He would go to miyamoto for input on decisions.

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#17 tbone29
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So... Yoshi had a huge impact on Mario's success.

That should be easy to remember. :)

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#18 nintendofreak_2
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Well Miyamoto isn't always going to be around to save Nintendo. They'll need people around to take his place.
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#19 kingqaz
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In the ending credit it said Miyamoto was the producer and something else (can't remember.) They said the guy from the interview was the director. What do the director and the producer do? I have no clue.
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#20 BET8390
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Shame on yoursleves! you call yourselves N fans?? :P j/k

Shiggy and Iwata Don't really make games anymore. They act as "producers" and over see almost all N's projects. Because Shiggs is getting old he's starting to pass on his talents to the younger generation so when the time comes that he is no longer around, nintendo can continue to live off his legacy.

So there ya go.

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#21 Wintry_Flutist
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Shame on yoursleves! you call yourselves N fans?? :P j/k

Shiggy and Iwata Don't really make games anymore. They act as "producers" and over see almost all N's projects. Because Shiggs is getting old he's starting to pass on his talents to the younger generation so when the time comes that he is no longer around, nintendo can continue to live off his legacy.

So there ya go.

BET8390

Well, Shiggy is still making games, but those games are WiiSports and WiiFit. Thing is he's getting almost all Aonuma's, and now Koizumi's, credit (not his fault, we know), while he is passing his old franchises to younger designers.

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#22 Goten_king
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Miyamoto rarely gets official credit as the game's maker. He just overlooks, adds ideas, and works along the group. Sure we all call him the makers of these games, but he's not "officially"
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#23 sexy_chimp
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We NEED a new Miyamoto sooner or later, he's getting old. Without Miyamoto or someone with his talent, Nintendo isn't Nintendo. If this guy was the main force behind SMG then he can be it.
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#24 Cutekitten6_18
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Koizumi did a heck of a job!
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What about the 70+ guys who helped create it?
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#26 Wintry_Flutist
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What about the 70+ guys who helped create it?weazur

Beat the game and read the staff credits!

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#27 Cyber-
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He was behind sunshine as well. miyamoto helps out all the projects its very rare that he will focus on one these days.

The other guy worked on Sunshine. He is really talented.

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#28 Wintry_Flutist
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He was behind sunshine as well. miyamoto helps out all the projects its very rare that he will focus on one these days.

The other guy worked on Sunshine. He is really talented.

Cyber-

He evolved a lot! :shock:

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#29 NECR0CHILD313
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I'd akin Miyomoto with a movie director. The director doesn't always write the movie, but if you've seen some great movies with great directors and what should've been great directors with bad directors you'd know that it means the world.
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#30 ZumaJones07
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Shig has been doing his thing for 20+ years now... someone is bound to step in and take his place or else Nintendo will be stuck when he's gone
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#31 Wintry_Flutist
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I'd akin Miyomoto with a movie director. The director doesn't always write the movie, but if you've seen some great movies with great directors and what should've been great directors with bad directors you'd know that it means the world.NECR0CHILD313

That's a bad comparison, directors are the ones responsible for the movie being great or not, and saying "it doesn't seem it, but directors actually have some influence in the final result" is utterly wrong, they're the most involved with the motion picture. Give any script to a competent director, he or she will turn water into wine - after all, movies aren't supposed to be written, but to translate something in images, and that's the director's job. Of course, the better the material on which the director is working, more he will be able to do.

It's the same for games, and in this case Koizumi was indeed the director, making the written concept of spherical little worlds happen in gaming form - under Miyamoto's guidance, we'll all agree. And Miyamoto, he was as usual the producer, and had not the input of a director.

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#32 bob_newman
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In this interview, they say that Miyamoto had more to do with it than you might think. It's a long read, but it's worth it.

Link

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#33 l8bitz
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BLASPHEMY! THROUGH THIS UNBELIEVER OUT!

Everyone KNOWS Miyamoto hand coded the entire game, wrote and recorded the entier soundtrack (in which he plays every instrument), digitally rendered Mario after his own image AND is the voice of Mario.... though he did have some help in translation.

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#34 micallef23
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BLASPHEMY! THROUGH THIS UNBELIEVER OUT!

Everyone KNOWS Miyamoto hand coded the entire game, wrote and recorded the entier soundtrack (in which he plays every instrument), digitally rendered Mario after his own image AND is the voice of Mario.... though he did have some help in translation.

l8bitz

this.

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#35 Iyethar
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Sad that people can't give Koizumi credit. He and Miyamoto both deserve applause for their work envisioning such a wonderful game - it seems to be very much the product of their interacting ideas and shared work.

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#36 Supersegs
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wrote and recorded the entier soundtrack (in which he plays every instrument), .

l8bitz
No, he didn't, he wrote all the music but he was the director using the Wiimote, the instrument were played by real Miis of himself
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#37 Jbul
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Sure he was involved. But there's a new name in the staff you better remember:

Yoshiaki Koizumi.

After reading the following interview, one can say he is for Mario what Eiji Aonuma is for Zelda. Miyamoto work is mostly to select Koizumi's best ideas and point overall directions to go through development.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/838/838587p1.html

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No doubt Koizumi is talented. But saying that having Shigeru Miyamoto as the "Project Director" is not having him heavily involved in the game is a mistatement.In fact, Miyamoto offers limited imput into many of Nintendo's biggest releases, but has not been this heavily involved in a game in quite some time. There was a lot of pressure for this game to be incredible after the somewhat disappointed Sunshine, and putting Miyamoto in charge of the project is definitely a fool-proof way to do it.

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[QUOTE="NECR0CHILD313"]I'd akin Miyomoto with a movie director. The director doesn't always write the movie, but if you've seen some great movies with great directors and what should've been great directors with bad directors you'd know that it means the world.Wintry_Flutist

true true

That's a bad comparison, directors are the ones responsible for the movie being great or not, and saying "it doesn't seem it, but directors actually have some influence in the final result" is utterly wrong, they're the most involved with the motion picture. Give any script to a competent director, he or she will turn water into wine - after all, movies aren't supposed to be written, but to translate something in images, and that's the director's job. Of course, the better the material on which the director is working, more he will be able to do.

It's the same for games, and in this case Koizumi was indeed the director, making the written concept of spherical little worlds happen in gaming form - under Miyamoto's guidance, we'll all agree. And Miyamoto, he was as usual the producer, and had not the input of a director.

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#39 Wintry_Flutist
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No doubt Koizumi is talented. But saying that having Shigeru Miyamoto as the "Project Director" is not having him heavily involved in the game is a mistatement.In fact, Miyamoto offers limited imput into many of Nintendo's biggest releases, but has not been this heavily involved in a game in quite some time. There was a lot of pressure for this game to be incredible after the somewhat disappointed Sunshine, and putting Miyamoto in charge of the project is definitely a fool-proof way to do it.

Jbul

What? They didn't put Miyamoto in charge of Galaxy to prevent a new Sunshine. Just as for Galaxy, Sunshine's director was Koizumi and Miyamoto was the producer. Koizumi simply got it right this time.

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#40 monkey2go
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on the end credits it said he was one of the producers
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#41 monkey2go
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on the end credits it said he was one of the producers
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#42 Wintry_Flutist
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on the end credits it said he was one of the producersmonkey2go

We know. :|

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#43 Nintendevil
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remember though, He's gotn a lot to do though. He's been working on Metroid, Loz, and a whole ton of other tittles.
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#44 kiruyama
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Well, that's understandable. Miyamoto is getting old and needs a successor. Always nice to have a new face.