Was Battalion Wars II considered a flop for us Wii gamers?

Many people are discussing the fact that BWII was a huge flop.

Honestly, I didn't know what to expext. The first one wasn't AAA, and it was kind of just a "fun to play once through" type of game.

So I don't understand the whole, "OMGZZ TEH BATTALIONZ FLOPPIDDD" deal.

People should chill.

By the way, I think BWII is a solid, great game.

Battalion Wars 2 actually turned out to be more fun than I had originally expected. I never played the first one, so I had to base my expectations on screen shots and video from the various game sites. But after having it for over a week and puttingsome serious time into the campaign I can say it is definitelyone of the better Wii games. The graphics are pretty good, the cut scenes are excellent, the story is enjoyable, and the game play is addicting.Haven't tried theonline play yet because Iwant to get more comfortable with the different vehicles and characters before getting killed by an 8 year old who has nothing better to do with his time!

It wasn't a flop as far as score goes. But as far as sales go so far it's not doing so good. Nintendo really miss a great opportunity with this game. It's loads of fun.jdmpastor

i havent seen not one advertisment for this game.

I don't think it was a flop per se. I think that the initial hype it received considering its less than well known predecessor was intriguing to most, so we were looking for a good-to-great title. I think it is that, considering Gamespot is biased toward online games and this one didn't have a bunch of online, but it just didn't seem to be as big a deal as we had thought and hoped. Sales won't be on par with any of the bigger releases like Metoid Prime 3, Mario Party 8, or even Mario Strikers Charged. From what I've heard, it's still a game very much worth playing.

It wasn't a flop as far as score goes. But as far as sales go so far it's not doing so good. Nintendo really miss a great opportunity with this game. It's loads of fun.jdmpastor

100% truth. I agree. It's too bad that this game will go unnoticed by too many.

Great post man. Very well and impartially said :)

I would also agree and also cal to light this whole "____ game was a flop!" thing that appears to go on online somewhere. I've never seen any evidence of this and I've also never seen any evidence of what is justuifying all these 18 year olds deciding great and successful games are flops. Can anyone explain this? You know what? Nm I don't even really care about anyway lol.

It is to me a little. I expected it to be WAY better than the original and I thought the first obe was...ok. And the controls seem tacked on but I can't say for sure cuz I didn't play it yet. It hadn't flopped to my eyes, I would have got it at luanch. Now I will eventually get it at some point. Maybe at a game drought.

But I knew the game would deliver for BW fans. It just didn't to me.

The real problem is, when you buy a game, you need some time to play it, you don't go out and buy 4 games at the same time, people ussualy buy 1 game and play it for a while.

BWii got screwed because it was release just before SMG.

At first i wanted to buy BWii, but i'm going to go for SMG instead, because i know that once i have my hands on SMG, i won't play any other Wii games.

Look at games like Umbrella Chronicle, Lego Star Wars... honestly those games looks hot!, but same week as SMG.. hmm it's going to kill those sales, i'm sure!

It's not an AAA title but it's a lot of fun and getting loads of play time from me

Never have a problem finding online matches either so I guess other people are enjoying it too

The real problem is, when you buy a game, you need some time to play it, you don't go out and buy 4 games at the same time, people ussualy buy 1 game and play it for a while.

BWii got screwed because it was release just before SMG.

At first i wanted to buy BWii, but i'm going to go for SMG instead, because i know that once i have my hands on SMG, i won't play any other Wii games.

Look at games like Umbrella Chronicle, Lego Star Wars... honestly those games looks hot!, but same week as SMG.. hmm it's going to kill those sales, i'm sure!

magicquebec

I don't agree. GH 3 was released 1 day before and sold well because it's well known to many people.Imo Bwii did poorly(well don't really know how bad it sold, but you guys are saying it didn't sell well so...)because:

a: Hardly any advertising

b: Not known to many people besides purchasers of the first game(and people who frequent the wii board and see duckman's and other people's signatures lol)

I'm glad many people agree with me on the quality of this game. It's great.

I just hope I can find some people to play with online, that's what I was worried about. Especially with its majorrr lack of sales.

IF anyone wants to exchange Wii numbers, let me know!

only if nintendo advertise it not even 1 commercailljlrj

if only they did it right, the only thing they did not under perform on was the campaign. it almost seems like they were forced to do a multiplayer and did it crappy.

I'm a huge, huge fan of Advance Wars. It was one of the first games i picked up for the GBA when it first came out (man I miss that rectangle) and I played it honestly for hours at a time. My friends and I would duke it out with the cables and make our own D-Day maps and try and create impossible mazes full of heavy tanks and missile units. That's my main problem with this game. I love the switch from 2d strategy to the 3d world, but the complete lack of strategy and customization just doesn't put it up to par. I mean advance wars DS made me go out and buy a Lite just to play that game, only to beat it 3 times through then sell it all off 100% satisfied. So far I'm enjoying this one far more than the first battalion wars. The controls are much more intuitive and the tutorials actually teach you how to play the game. I kind of wish they did this game from the top down perspective like advance wars, then shift to the 3d combat when you move units or battalions into combat. That way you get the strategy aspect mixed with some kick-ass 3d action. It's a fun game, one of my favorites on the Wii thus far, but it doesn't have the stomping power of its little brother in my book. Also, and this is a big also....NO FREAKIN CO-OP. I mean how hard is it to put a line down the middle of a screen and allow two people to fight against each other? They could have done capture the flag, defend and attack, or even had mini scenarios where a small, pretty much pointless story is set up about one battalion fighting off another one for 20 minutes until reinforcements arrive. ANYTHING like that would have made this game the must own AAA title that it could have been. Advance wars was all about strategy and fighting against your friends. This series just hasn't seemed to figure that out. Sure there's online and if my interent at my university would work, it may answer that question, but all in all I just wish there was something to do with my roommates.FunWithMatches

[QUOTE="FunWithMatches"]I'm a huge, huge fan of Advance Wars. It was one of the first games i picked up for the GBA when it first came out (man I miss that rectangle) and I played it honestly for hours at a time. My friends and I would duke it out with the cables and make our own D-Day maps and try and create impossible mazes full of heavy tanks and missile units. That's my main problem with this game. I love the switch from 2d strategy to the 3d world, but the complete lack of strategy and customization just doesn't put it up to par. I mean advance wars DS made me go out and buy a Lite just to play that game, only to beat it 3 times through then sell it all off 100% satisfied. So far I'm enjoying this one far more than the first battalion wars. The controls are much more intuitive and the tutorials actually teach you how to play the game. I kind of wish they did this game from the top down perspective like advance wars, then shift to the 3d combat when you move units or battalions into combat. That way you get the strategy aspect mixed with some kick-ass 3d action. It's a fun game, one of my favorites on the Wii thus far, but it doesn't have the stomping power of its little brother in my book. Also, and this is a big also....NO FREAKIN CO-OP. I mean how hard is it to put a line down the middle of a screen and allow two people to fight against each other? They could have done capture the flag, defend and attack, or even had mini scenarios where a small, pretty much pointless story is set up about one battalion fighting off another one for 20 minutes until reinforcements arrive. ANYTHING like that would have made this game the must own AAA title that it could have been. Advance wars was all about strategy and fighting against your friends. This series just hasn't seemed to figure that out. Sure there's online and if my interent at my university would work, it may answer that question, but all in all I just wish there was something to do with my roommates.dieworm

Ha, well when you start typing you just keep going, but this time i'll even indent in, just for you ( ;. Besides, I get enough of that from my profs, but onto your post, I understand your point, but I also think I'm allowed to post my opinion. Next, AW is known as strategy. They played the original BW as a mix of the two. BWii also played the game up as being a mix of both. Now I still love the BW games sincethey remind me of AW, I'm just trying to look into why this game maybe "flopped". For the hype this game got, especially with the forum posts and unions, there isn't a very big "WOW" reaction. I'm just voicing my opinion as to why the game was a flop in my book: mainly because with the wii controls, and the ads, they play it up as being a strategy game. (here, let me press enter for you)

The reason AW sells is because its about strategy and they attempted to grab those players and bring them over to BW. With 3rd person action games, strategy is big part of that. Look at GRAW,R6V, two games that play up as beingshooters with squads that both involve afair amount of strategy. Look at AW now, a strategy game that focuses primarily on tactics and brain power. Now, when you'rebranching off from a "strategy" genre that is know primarily for that reason, you NEED to keep some of that in to appeal to your base fans... otherwise you run the risk of alienating them. I like how you use the word "tactical" in your description. Tactics, Strategy... see, they even got you hooked in with the advertising. I love the game, I enjoy the action, the quirky story and commanders, but again, for the last time, I brain barely had to go into overdrive.