smash bros melee at EVO...denied(update its back on)

well they cant stream it for us.

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/07/10/nintendo-wont-let-evo-stream-smash-bros/

wait a minute... People donated a ton of money so thet they could get melee into evo and now they won't get to see it happen. I bet a lot of people are going to be furious with this.

I don't think I've hated Nintendo more

Your fans paid nearly $100,000 on your behalf Nintendo...and THIS is the thanks you give them?

You truly are backwards Nintendo...this is a whole new level of betrayal.

Nintendo, this is an opportunity to appeal to the CORE you want to buy the Wii U, and this will help promote future Smash Bros games.

There is literally a new Smash Bros Game coming to 3DS and Wii U, this could affect the popularity of the series if future EVO tourney's remove the Smash Bros games from the selection of fan faves.

NINTENDO, this is FREE Advertising for your brand, your characters, your Smash Bros. Franchise...take it and get on the "Core's" good side!

*SMH*

stupid move by Nintendo.

Wow. I didn't really know about this in the first place. But still. That's ridiculous, especially considering people paid money hoping to see it.

I remember when Nintendo cared about their fans... or at least acted like they did.

Nintendo changed their mind

Nintendo changed their mind

alexh_99

[QUOTE="alexh_99"]

Nintendo changed their mind

Haziqonfire

Nintendo didn't miscommunicate, they were direct: "Regrettably, weve just been informed by Nintendo of America Inc. that we do not have permission to broadcast Super Smash Bros. Melee for Evo 2013."

This mentality follows suit with Nintendo's recent Youtube video policies, and their longstanding demo disc policies.

Nintendo changed their mind for Evo though, thank goodness.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]Nintendo changed their mindSolidTy

i don't get what reason nintendo would have to forbid it from happening in the first place. it's literally free advertisement FOR THE GAME THEY JUST ANNOUNCED. it's the biggest event in the fighting game community, and smash is in it. hell, even if it was some minor tourney with no-names, what reason would nintendo have to keep them from streaming? what could they possibly benefit from it? and yes i know they decided it will be allowed now, but i don't understand. i just don't.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i don't get what reason nintendo would have to forbid it from happening in the first place. it's literally free advertisement FOR THE GAME THEY JUST ANNOUNCED. it's the biggest event in the fighting game community, and smash is in it. hell, even if it was some minor tourney with no-names, what reason would nintendo have to keep them from streaming? what could they possibly benefit from it? and yes i know they decided it will be allowed now, but i don't understand. i just don't.Master_Of_Fools

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]

Nintendo changed their mind

SolidTy

Nintendo didn't miscommunicate, they were direct: "Regrettably, weve just been informed by Nintendo of America Inc. that we do not have permission to broadcast Super Smash Bros. Melee for Evo 2013."

This mentality follows suit with Nintendo's recent Youtube video policies, and their longstanding demo disc policies.

Nintendo changed their mind for Evo though, thank goodness.

I can't get over how ironic this situation is. Many people in the FGC hated Smash to begin with so it was already confusing on why that game even entered EVO and when Nintendo blocks it, a s***storm commences? Make up your minds. Do you love Smash or hate it?nintendoboy16

Smash was voted in by a charity drive. There was a list of fighting games that weren't going to be in Evo 2013 and the general public voted on which game they'd like to see at evo with their money. Smash earned a rediculous amount of money. I believe it was almost $95,000. A lot of people paid money to see smash at evo so they'd be the ones that were angry about it not being streamed.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I can't get over how ironic this situation is. Many people in the FGC hated Smash to begin with so it was already confusing on why that game even entered EVO and when Nintendo blocks it, a s***storm commences? Make up your minds. Do you love Smash or hate it?Pikminmaniac

Smash was voted in by a charity drive. There was a list of fighting games that weren't going to be in Evo 2013 and the general public voted on which game they'd like to see at evo with their money. Smash earned a rediculous amount of money. I believe it was almost $95,000. A lot of people paid money to see smash at evo so they'd be the ones that were angry about it not being streamed.

Nintendo didn't miscommunicate, they were direct: "Regrettably, weve just been informed by Nintendo of America Inc. that we do not have permission to broadcast Super Smash Bros. Melee for Evo 2013."

This mentality follows suit with Nintendo's recent Youtube video policies, and their longstanding demo disc policies.

Nintendo changed their mind for Evo though, thank goodness.

SolidTy

Nintendo's legal department jumped the gun. Simple as that. Everyone was quick to jump down Nintendo's throat about it, and now gamers feel entitled that their voices were what caused Nintendo to change their tune.

The decision was reversed

Nintendo changed their mind

alexh_99

Thanks for posting that on July 9th on Page one! :P

The decision was reversed

simomate

Nintendo changed their mind yet again?! Reversing their reversal of their original poor decision?:o

Geez, they should make up their mind for Smash Streaming...:(

Also, a link yesterday on page one was already posted that it was reversed, so the above post is joking about a reversal of the reversed decision earlier.

[QUOTE="alexh_99"]

Nintendo changed their mind

SolidTy

Thanks for posting that on July 9th on Page one! :P

The decision was reversed

simomate

Nintendo changed their mind yet again?! Reversing their reversal of their original poor decision?:o

Geez, they should make up their mind for Smash Streaming...:(

Also, a link yesterday on page one was already posted that it was reversed, so the above post is joking about a reversal of the reversed decision earlier.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

alexh_99, Thanks for posting that on July 9th on Page one! :P

simomate:

The decision was reversed

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Nintendo changed their mind yet again?! Reversing their reversal of their original poor decision?:o

Geez, they should make up their mind for Smash Streaming...:(

Also, a link yesterday on page one was already posted that it was reversed, so the above post is joking about a reversal of the reversed decision earlier.

simomate

Haha, it's all in fun mate. I'm just happy all is well and peeps be happy. :P

Guess I've been out the loop for awhile, why is there such a big deal being made about Melee? Why would Nintendo care if its streamed and why do people care so much to see it streamed? For a second, I thought this was about the new Smash game since people keep bringing up free advertisement. Melee really isn't going to advertise the new game.Sepewrath

I believe their point is that it draws more attention to the series as a whole, rather than a specific game. Of course, the majority of people who watch it will be gamers who already know about it anyway.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Nintendo didn't miscommunicate, they were direct: "Regrettably, weve just been informed by Nintendo of America Inc. that we do not have permission to broadcast Super Smash Bros. Melee for Evo 2013."

This mentality follows suit with Nintendo's recent Youtube video policies, and their longstanding demo disc policies.

Nintendo changed their mind for Evo though, thank goodness.

Haziqonfire

Nintendo's legal department jumped the gun. Simple as that. Everyone was quick to jump down Nintendo's throat about it, and now gamers feel entitled that their voices were what caused Nintendo to change their tune.

Not so fast.

According to the EVO founder and Gamespot.com those gamer voices were Exactly what caused Nintendo to change their tune. As a matter of fact, Nintendo wanted to cancel the Melee event entirely.

Not surprising, but here's the link on the Original Nintendo response to Melee:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/nintendo-wanted-to-shut-down-evo-super-smash-tournament-6411317

Nintendo wanted to shut down EVO Super Smash Tournament

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"EVO founder Joey Cuellar says Nintendo not only wanted to deny Smash Bros. streaming, but also the event itself."

"Earlier this week, Nintendo tried to deny the organizers of the Evolution Fighting Game Championships the rights to broadcast the Super Smash Bros. Melee, a decision that was later reversed after community backlash. EVO founder Joey Cuellar told competitive gaming and eSports show Live On Three, hosted by GameSpots Rod Breslau and Twitchs Marcus Graham, that Nintendo also tried to shut down tournament itself.

"They were trying to not only shut down the stream, but shut down the event, the Smash portion," Cuellar said on the show. "It's their IP, they can do what they want. They didn't present us any option to keep it open. We tried to wig-wam our way through it, and they were fine with just shutting down the streaming portion of the event."

Fans were upset about Super Smash Bros. Melee's removal from the stream schedule earlier today, particularly after supporters helped raise almost $95,000 for charity earlier this year to see the game included in the tournament.

Within hours of Nintendos decision to shut down the stream, fans worldwide of the fighting game community and competitive gaming community made their voices heard, trending #FreeMelee on Twitter and earning the #1 story overall on Reddit. Cuellar says that the community alone is what got the Smash Bros. stream back on.

"We did nothing on our end. It had to been the bad PR they were getting in conjunction with the power of the Internet. We're grateful to everyone that contributed to making Nintendo make a great decision for the fans worldwide."

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This news came just in time.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I can't get over how ironic this situation is. Many people in the FGC hated Smash to begin with so it was already confusing on why that game even entered EVO and when Nintendo blocks it, a s***storm commences? Make up your minds. Do you love Smash or hate it?MethodManFTW

Generalizations don't work when describing such a diverse group of gamers.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I can't get over how ironic this situation is. Many people in the FGC hated Smash to begin with so it was already confusing on why that game even entered EVO and when Nintendo blocks it, a s***storm commences? Make up your minds. Do you love Smash or hate it?MethodManFTW

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I can't get over how ironic this situation is. Many people in the FGC hated Smash to begin with so it was already confusing on why that game even entered EVO and when Nintendo blocks it, a s***storm commences? Make up your minds. Do you love Smash or hate it?nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] "the fgc" is not one single group. its a veeeeeeery loose community made of many smaller communities.. the most talented guys play everything, but generally you have capcom guys, NRS guys, KoF guys, anime guys, smash guys, and whatever other crappy 3d fighters have communities. :PMethodManFTW

For one, I am glad I'm not considered part of the community (even though I do like the genre a lot) because most of who I've talked to on other sites (haven't had too many problems on this site) that consider them part of it come off as unlikeable. You're considered a "scrub" for some of the stupidest crap I've ever heard.

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]As is the entire gaming community and they can agree that certain games suck. Your point?nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] my point is you are entirely wrong, and obviously not a part of "the fgc" if you think that way.MethodManFTW

EVO commentators is about as vague as you can possibly be. For Capcom games? For Netherrealm games? For Tekken? For KoF? do i think its a bad game? most certainly, but who cares? that jackie chan fighting game has a community.

Okay, fair enough on the commentators. But how about that debate I mentioned?

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Really then? Explain to me why EVO commentators comment on Smash like it doesn't belong there (if what I heard is true while commenting on a YT video on the situation). Hell, explain why there is a never-ending debate on whether or not it belongs in the same genre we have Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat/Tekken/Soul/King of Fighters/various anime games (namely Dragon Ball Z)? For one, I am glad I'm not considered part of the community (even though I do like the genre a lot) because most of who I've talked to on other sites that consider them part of it come off as unlikeable. You're considered a "scrub" for some of the stupidest crap over there.nintendoboy16

EVO commentators is about as vague as you can possibly be. For Capcom games? For Netherrealm games? For Tekken? For KoF? do i think its a bad game? most certainly, but who cares? that jackie chan fighting game has a community.

Okay, fair enough on the commentators. But how about that debate I mentioned?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] when anyone says anime games relating to fighting games, they mean blazblue, persona 4 arena, etc.. not dbz games. :P

EVO commentators is about as vague as you can possibly be. For Capcom games? For Netherrealm games? For Tekken? For KoF? do i think its a bad game? most certainly, but who cares? that jackie chan fighting game has a community.MethodManFTW

Okay, fair enough on the commentators. But how about that debate I mentioned?