Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers

Anyone else getting this? I totally forgot I pre-ordered until I got the email from Amazon saying it would be delivered today.

I have actually never played a Shing Megami Tensei game before but ordered it based on reputation.

Lol haven't even heard of it. I still need to play the Devil Survivor games, I've heard they're good.

I am surprised there hasn't been more talk of it since Shin Megami Tensei has some rabid fans and this is the first release of it in the United States. No review here but the ones that are popping up elsewhere are pretty good. It is kind of a weird choice for my first game in the series but it least sounds like if I like this, I'll know I'll like the rest of them.

I just got my copy in the mail today. It's a remake of an old Saturn game, so I don't think the hype is going to be as big for Shin Megami Tensei IV. I'm sure it will be a solid addition to the SMT franchise though and a nice holdover untill SMTIV does arrive.

As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

turtlethetaffer

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As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

bbkkristian

It's an SRPG, right? Like on a grid and stuff? Or am I confusing SRPG with Tactics?

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As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

turtlethetaffer

It's an SRPG, right? Like on a grid and stuff? Or am I confusing SRPG with Tactics?

Devil Survivor is a mixture. It's a SPRG but each enemy on the screen is actually a small group. Once you attack or are attacked it shifts to a first person view facing the monsters

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On topic, yes I'll be picking it up. It's a remake of a fairly old game so some of the gameplay mechanics are going to feel outdated

I am surprised there hasn't been more talk of it since Shin Megami Tensei has some rabid fans and this is the first release of it in the United States. No review here but the ones that are popping up elsewhere are pretty good. It is kind of a weird choice for my first game in the series but it least sounds like if I like this, I'll know I'll like the rest of them.

logicalfrank

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I am surprised there hasn't been more talk of it since Shin Megami Tensei has some rabid fans and this is the first release of it in the United States. No review here but the ones that are popping up elsewhere are pretty good. It is kind of a weird choice for my first game in the series but it least sounds like if I like this, I'll know I'll like the rest of them.

elbert_b_23

Well, it was never released in the US so it will be new to a lot of people on this forum. I think the visuals look nice for what it's worth but I have never cared whether or not graphics were technically good just that I like the art style. Dissapointed to hear about the music though. It does come w/ an audio CD, which is a nice touch. Reading some more reviews, I am kinda wishing I'd bought Etrian Odyssey instead which is apparently similar in terms of gameplay but does have updated visuals. Oh well. Like I said, I forgot about my pre-order and it came as a surprise so it's kind of a free gift... which cost me forty dollars.

[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="logicalfrank"]

I am surprised there hasn't been more talk of it since Shin Megami Tensei has some rabid fans and this is the first release of it in the United States. No review here but the ones that are popping up elsewhere are pretty good. It is kind of a weird choice for my first game in the series but it least sounds like if I like this, I'll know I'll like the rest of them.

logicalfrank

Well, it was never released in the US so it will be new to a lot of people on this forum. I think the visuals look nice for what it's worth but I have never cared whether or not graphics were technically good just that I like the art style. Dissapointed to hear about the music though. It does come w/ an audio CD, which is a nice touch. Reading some more reviews, I am kinda wishing I'd bought Etrian Odyssey instead which is apparently similar in terms of gameplay but does have updated visuals. Oh well. Like I said, I forgot about my pre-order and it came as a surprise so it's kind of a free gift... which cost me forty dollars.

As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

turtlethetaffer

omggg devil survivor overlocked was one of my favorite RPGs, i'm still trying to find a place near me that carries the second one...

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As a general question, does anyone know if both of the Devil Survivor games are worth palying? I've heard the first is better than the second, and I'd like someone's take on that.

Moloch121

Lol. Shoulda known :P I haven't played a ton of their games, but I've definitely enjoyed several games they've developed (Radiant Historia) or published (Knights in the Nightmare.) I guess I'll really need to pick these games up :P

Currently waiting for my copy to show up.

I've been so busy with other games lately, so I really need to pick this game up along with Luigi's Mansion 2 asap.

Good game but I am having trouble adjusting from Etrian Odyssey 4.  Really keep an eye on the M, you spend it by walking and every demon summon.  I may just change the setting to let me see the entire map since I naturally cannot resist mapping everything.  And unlike Strange Journey, you need to constantly switch to new demons since they do not level up.

Good game but I am having trouble adjusting from Etrian Odyssey 4.  Really keep an eye on the M, you spend it by walking and every demon summon.  I may just change the setting to let me see the entire map since I naturally cannot resist mapping everything.  And unlike Strange Journey, you need to constantly switch to new demons since they do not level up.

Sora278

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Good game but I am having trouble adjusting from Etrian Odyssey 4.  Really keep an eye on the M, you spend it by walking and every demon summon.  I may just change the setting to let me see the entire map since I naturally cannot resist mapping everything.  And unlike Strange Journey, you need to constantly switch to new demons since they do not level up.

lamprey263

I went ahead and picked it up but I'm going to wait until I beat Persona 4 until I get into it. I'm at that heavenly dungeon so I think I'm getting close. :P 

I went ahead and picked it up but I'm going to wait until I beat Persona 4 until I get into it. I'm at that heavenly dungeon so I think I'm getting close. :P 

Pixel-Perfect

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I went ahead and picked it up but I'm going to wait until I beat Persona 4 until I get into it. I'm at that heavenly dungeon so I think I'm getting close. :P 

lamprey263

I guess it was lucky that Devil Survivor was my first SMT game. :P

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I went ahead and picked it up but I'm going to wait until I beat Persona 4 until I get into it. I'm at that heavenly dungeon so I think I'm getting close. :P

lamprey263

Not for me, it isn't. Persona 3 introduced me to the SMT series and is a good game, but I like Strange Journey, Soul Hackers and Nocturne better.

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Good game but I am having trouble adjusting from Etrian Odyssey 4.  Really keep an eye on the M, you spend it by walking and every demon summon.  I may just change the setting to let me see the entire map since I naturally cannot resist mapping everything.  And unlike Strange Journey, you need to constantly switch to new demons since they do not level up.

bbkkristian

Nemissa keeps dying so easily though!  I keep one demon to deal more damage and absorb some so I keep a good amount of M.  What level should I be to beat those demons at the end of Airport?

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] Demon's don't level up? That might be a relief, does the game have fusion?Sora278

Nemissa keeps dying so easily though!  I keep one demon to deal more damage and absorb some so I keep a good amount of M.  What level should I be to beat those demons at the end of Airport?

Level 14 at the end?  My equipment must REALLY suck then because I am over level 20.

The insta-death moves are still as annoying as ever. -_-

(Random opening thoughts of this game :shock: )

This game is pretty cool.  I don't know how I missed the series as a whole.

I only started playing the SMT series with Strange Journey, and there are enough differences in play/story to make it a new game.  I miss the bigger portraits of the demons though, the art is really amazing.

I agree about the "M" counts, just tonight I recognized that summoning took it away.  It's hard enough when you have to trade it to get new gear.  Yet I bet the process will taper off once the game progresses.  I'm gonna levelup a moment and get some M-cash next.

I /love/ the voices, some of the tones/voices they put in here are really imaginative.

The story is solid so far, with a varied cast of characters that should develop well.

I just started yesterday too. I knew it was a port of an older game but I am really surprised by how little in-game instruction there is. I am about an hour or so in and am really liking the overal tone and feel of the graphics and music but can't say much more w/o digging in further.

[QUOTE="Sora278"]

Good game but I am having trouble adjusting from Etrian Odyssey 4.  Really keep an eye on the M, you spend it by walking and every demon summon.  I may just change the setting to let me see the entire map since I naturally cannot resist mapping everything.  And unlike Strange Journey, you need to constantly switch to new demons since they do not level up.

lamprey263

There is a little bit of grinding on the Demons in the form of building their loyalty. They won't follow commands that don't fit their type until you build up their loyalty to you. That is pretty minor though since they are usually best at doing whatever suits their personality type anyway. And there is fusion, by the way...

In any case, I feel like I'm really starting to get into the meat of this game and I'm really getting sucked into to its old school gameply. You have to do a bit of work to figure out just how everything works but once you get going it feels pretty natural. Even for a 5th generation title it's got kind of a minimal presentation but to me that just kind of strips it down to the essentials. (I have no interest in watching complicated combat animations for turn-based battles. Just let me see the outcome of what I decided to do, thank you very much.) I also really, really enjoy the sci-fi/horror hybrid setting and some sections have incredible music.

I mentioned earlier in this thread that this is my first SMT game and I'll definitely be checking out more. I love that you can get passed/recruit enemeies rather than simply having to either fight or run away from all  of them.