sega and nintendo together a good thing...?

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#1 dese1
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well mario and sonic at the olympics sounded kool but now that sonic has entered brawl how do you feel about sega and nintendo working together?

I say the more the merrier

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#2 slgnbenchwarmr
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Of course it's a good thing! the more characters the better!!
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#3 dinofan01
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i think segs should just merge into nintendo. they arn't doing to good
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#4 Zel-duh
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Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knows
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#5 slimdave21
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I remember the old days when the Sega's Sonic and Nintendo's Mario were enemies. How times have changed; now they're being put in two games together. I was just thinking the other day how it would be cool if sonic were to join brawl. Now all they need is Capcom's Megaman or Ryu from Street Fighter.
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#6 dese1
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Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knowsZel-duh

honestly who cares im freakin down with nintendo and sega 2gether

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#7 Zel-duh
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honestly who cares im freakin down with nintendo and sega 2gether

dese1

Oh well everyone has their own opinion :P lol

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#8 gibbon1618
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I remember the old days when the Sega's Sonic and Nintendo's Mario were enemies. How times have changed; now they're being put in two games together. I was just thinking the other day how it would be cool if sonic were to join brawl. Now all they need is Capcom's Megaman or Ryu from Street Fighter.slimdave21

In a way sonic and mario are still enemies as they battle it out in brawl and compete against each other in the olympics. But in a corporate sense I agree it's not the same...

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#9 jsrock_on54
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Mega Man would make an already awesome game more great. Maybe have a charactor from every major 3rd party company, say, Capcom - Megaman

Sega - Sonic

Konami - Snake

maybe a Square Enix?

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#10 EndlessPunisher
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I still dont think sonic really has the right to be in Brawl. but this leaves me with the question of what other characters their gonna throw in their. Since Sonic's in their, hell any one could be in their now. Sega has been doing quite poorly, but eh if sonic & Mario olympics and Brawl this dont work, then sonics basicly gonna have to say goodbye.
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I dunno. I remember back in the day when if you even suggested this back in say 1994, you would prolly be laughed at. I am happy Sonic is in Brawl though, him and snake are prolly going to be my go-to guys!
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#12 stevenk4k5
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Mega Man would make an already awesome game more great. Maybe have a charactor from every major 3rd party company, say, Capcom - Megaman

Sega - Sonic

Konami - Snake

maybe a Square Enix?

jsrock_on54

Square Enix - Sora! He would fit in well.

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#13 Cowmanik
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Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knowsZel-duh

I say SEGA throwing Sonic around in franchises that aren't Sonic games is a desperate attempt to make Sonic appear in good games. The only problem with this is the best current generation games with Sonic in them are games that SEGA doesn't make. Sonic needs his own games that are good so he can survive as the icon he used to be.

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[QUOTE="Zel-duh"]Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knowsCowmanik

I say SEGA throwing Sonic around in franchises that aren't Sonic games is a desperate attempt to make Sonic appear in good games. The only problem with this is the best current generation games with Sonic in them are games that SEGA doesn't make. Sonic needs his own games that are good so he can survive as the icon he used to be.

Well Sega is making the onlympic game

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#15 Anabub
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I remember the old days when the Sega's Sonic and Nintendo's Mario were enemies. How times have changed; now they're being put in two games together. I was just thinking the other day how it would be cool if sonic were to join brawl. Now all they need is Capcom's Megaman or Ryu from Street Fighter.slimdave21
Ohh I love the idea of Ryu being in brawl!!
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#16 phamhienp
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Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knowsZel-duh

Maybe where americans are looking at, yeah Sega isn't doing so well. In Japan though their niche is arcade games and they are dominating that market. One huge example is Love and Berry. I believe about 100 000 000 cards have been printed (100 yen a game) and the DS version drew about 1 million preorders, and this is one game alone. They also released Mushi King which has about the same numbers.

Of course it wasn't always like this. They had to take a few steps backwards to go on ahead financially.

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#17 merch
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in 2 years i see nintendo purchasing sega look at all the sega games the most of them come out on nintendo whether there good or bad.
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#18 ciaran22
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why dont Sega just release Shenmue 3 on Wii and be done with it.
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#19 DevilInside2905
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I really don't like to think that Sega en Nintendo would be teaming up... When I think of Sega, I think of poor quality and the old days. To me, they're so much behind on the rest. I just don't look to them as a "real" game company anymore.
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#20 Jaysonguy
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Sega is doing really bad Zel-duh

No they're not and haven't for some time now.

Since the Wii came out with Sonic and the Sacred Rings and his two great games on the DS Sonic is back. Monkey Ball was another strong title on the Wii and the Virtual Console makes them money hand over fist with almost zero overhead.

It's been almost 2 years since Sega has been on hard times

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#21 Superlink911
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I think its like a dream come true we have waitin for years and finally they both come together both games will be great ecspecially SSBB
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#22 Cancer8u
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Yeah its a good thing with Nintendo pairing up with other people it could be awsome....after all i vote that Nintendo goes and parnters up with Bungie then maybe we get some halo on the wii.....(fyi: bungie no longer buddies with Microsoft that why i say this...)

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I suppose people base Sega's success on Sonic Team's games. Of course, a majority of their gold has turned into ash somehow. Perhaps key people leaving were the main factors? Prrrobably. Sonic for PS3 and XB360 were horrible, Phantasy Star is going down, Shining Force became a Diablo Clone. (The only exception is Sonic for the DS.)

Though, we can all have faith in Treasure.

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#24 martingm1983
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[QUOTE="Zel-duh"]Sega is doing really bad , and i think their trying all they can to get back on track. Take Mario and Sonic olympics for example, once again sonic with mario.... similar to sonic in super smash brawl isnt it? Is it a desperate attempt?? Who knowsCowmanik

I say SEGA throwing Sonic around in franchises that aren't Sonic games is a desperate attempt to make Sonic appear in good games. The only problem with this is the best current generation games with Sonic in them are games that SEGA doesn't make. Sonic needs his own games that are good so he can survive as the icon he used to be.

Agreed, kinda. I don't think their desperate, I just think they don't need to worry about as much, hence they just make average games. Their market value doesn't rely on hardware anymore either.

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#25 mrjam0
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down with nintendo? yeah.. u can jump over to the x box forums now. goodbye
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#26 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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down with nintendo? yeah.. u can jump over to the x box forums now. goodbyemrjam0

umm, who said that? quotes are good, especially if you're gonna come down on someone like that...

As far as my opinion on the topic goes, Jasonguy and phamhienp got it right when they said SEGA has been doing quite well the past few years and that most people tend to base their opnion of whether or not SEGA is doing well on the Sonic franchise alone. Sonic 2006 and Shadow the Hedgehog did leave a bad taste in people's mouths but SatSR was a good game and almost all the new handheld sonic games have been great.

SEGA has other well known IPs that they're making money from. Virtua Fighter(not a nintendo title persey), NiGHTS is coming december, Monkey ball and all the genesis games in the VC that they've got to be getting at least SOME revenue from.

SEGA's okay. They may not have a console, there may have been a few cruddy sonic titles, but overall, SEGA's okay and it's my belief that the Wii is the new SEGA console in spirit due to the amount of support it's getting from SEGA.

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#27 SmashBrosLegend
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SEGA is not in need of saving. They are still one of the better publishers in the industry. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better list than this.

All of these are current-generation games:

Rome: Total War Gold Edition-93.1%
Medieval 2: Total War Kingdoms-90%
Total War: Eras Edition-88%
Medieval 2: Total War-88%
Virtua Fighter 5-87.3%
Worldwide Soccer Manager 200786.1%
Sonic Rush-83.1%
Crush-83.1%
Sega Genesis Collection-83%
OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast-83%
Rome: Total War Barbarian Edition83%
Condemned: Criminal Origins-82.4%
SEGA Rally Revo-81%
Virtua Tennis 3-80.4%
Sonic Rush Adventure-80%
Rome: Total War Alexander Edition77.4%
Feel the Magic: XY/XX-77%
After Burner: Black Falcon-74%
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz-73%
Crazy Taxi Fare Wars-72.4%
Chromehounds-71.2%
Full Auto71.2%
The Rub Rabbits-71.1%
Sonic and the Secret Rings-71%

All of the PC games listed came out after the launch of the 360.

(if some of the average scores have changed, it is because this research was done a while ago. All averages are as of September 6)

Now, I wonder if that will be enough to shut up the SEGA haters...

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#28 garrett_duffman
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if the sega saturn or the 32x had never been released, they wouldnt be in the predicement they are in now, and they would most likely still be in the console wars (they may have had good games, but the systems just killed them)
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#29 SmashBrosLegend
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if the sega saturn or the 32x had never been released, they wouldnt be in the predicement they are in now, and they would most likely still be in the console wars (they may have had good games, but the systems just killed them)garrett_duffman

Educate yourself, please.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25785154&union_id=12198
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25883202&union_id=12198

Read all of those two topics, and see why SEGA really went out as a console manufacturer.

If it weren't for the Saturn, the Dreamcast would never have existed. In fact, the Dreamcast lost a hell of a lot more than the Saturn did.

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#30 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]if the sega saturn or the 32x had never been released, they wouldnt be in the predicement they are in now, and they would most likely still be in the console wars (they may have had good games, but the systems just killed them)SmashBrosLegend

Educate yourself, please.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25785154&union_id=12198
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25883202&union_id=12198

Read all of those two topics, and see why SEGA really went out as a console manufacturer.

If it weren't for the Saturn, the Dreamcast would never have existed. In fact, the Dreamcast lost a hell of a lot more than the Saturn did.

soooo.... no 32x and the saturn should have had more? i thought the dreamcast did fairly well for the few years it was out...

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#31 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]if the sega saturn or the 32x had never been released, they wouldnt be in the predicement they are in now, and they would most likely still be in the console wars (they may have had good games, but the systems just killed them)garrett_duffman

Educate yourself, please.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25785154&union_id=12198
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25883202&union_id=12198

Read all of those two topics, and see why SEGA really went out as a console manufacturer.

If it weren't for the Saturn, the Dreamcast would never have existed. In fact, the Dreamcast lost a hell of a lot more than the Saturn did.



soooo.... no 32x and the saturn should have had more? i thought the dreamcast did fairly well for the few years it was out...


...

If the Dreamcast had done well, it would have lasted far more than a few years. I absolutely love the system, but it was a commercial failure. The alot of its sales came after the hardware was discontinued, and it only really spent about a year alive on all three markets at once.
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#32 Solidfox1
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The reason Sega is doing this is because Sonic is going downhill... Fast! Thats why all this Nintendo and Sega stuff is happening. I think itsa good thing, Sonic needs a boost... A big boost to be good again, and Nintendo is giving him that boost