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"PROJECT CAFE"

The successor to the Nintendo Wii, please keep rumor discussion here! I will be updating this thread as new information and pictures surface, and if you post new news in the thread I will add it to this original post with credit given for the contribution!


NEW INFORMATION:


Here are new Project CaferumorsfromKotaku U.K.(assummarizedbyNintendoeverything.com). As always, take these rumors with a grain of salt:

[quote="Nintendoeverything"]- 8 gigabytes of on-board flash-based memory

- 16 times the storage capacity of Wii

- Smaller than the 20GB of room in the original/optional harddrives in 2005 for the Xbox 360

- 250 GB hard drives offered for PS3/360 today

- SD card saving also supported

- 8 GB of storage won't allow Nintendo to offer full-sized games for download like we've seen on the PS3/360

- Unlikely to store downloaded feature films without additional user-supplied storage

- Unclear if Nintendo will cap the graphical resolution at 1080i or 1080p - 25 GB of data for the disc format (triple the size of Wii discs/Xbox 360, comparable to PS3 Blu-Ray discs)

- At least equal to the PS3/360 in terms of horsepower

- Nintendo could tweak the storage capacity and other parameters before launch

- Screen-controller can function in many ways

- Controller can act similar to a PS3/360 controller

- Can also present a supplemental, touch-sensitive viewing screen

- This could be used for maps and inventory

- Third option: stream the game on the television to the controller screen

- Play these high-end games portably while within an unspecified range of the consolethom_maytees


New rumors fromNeoGAF(summarized byNintendoeverthing.com):

Called the "Nintendo Feel"

- While the Wii was about the controller, this will be about controller, the graphics, and the new software
- The screen on the controller isn't just hard like the iPad, it brings a new "Feel" dimension
- Moving your finger across the screen allows you to feel the difference between soft, smooth, and rugged textures
- Could be used for feeling fur on Nintendogs, drawing patterns in desert sand, feeling the breeze on a lake, getting burned from lava, or figuring out the structure of a very old tree
- Playable at E3
- Vitality sensor could be a key featureNintendoeverthing

Submitted by:thom_maytees

CONFIRMED:

  • Nintendo has officially confirmed that they will be unveiling a new home console at E3 from June 5-7th, the console will NOT be centered around 3D because according to Nintendo, there are not enough 3D TV's in the market yet.

"We will show a playable model of the new system and announce more specifications at the E3 Expo, which will be held June 7-9, 2011, in Los Angeles," - Nintendo

"It's difficult to make 3-D images a key feature, because 3-D televisions haven't obtained wide acceptance yet."- Satoru IwataNintendo

  • Console confirmed by Satoru Iwata to have an intended release AFTER April of 2012. Also states that he speculates the Japanese game market will not have recovered from the earthquakes until Fall 2012, leading to speculation that the console will be released around that time.


UNCOMFIRMED:

  • Consoles code name is "Project Cafe," rumored to be called the "Nintendo Stream."
  • Will run natively at 1080p and will be more powerful than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, conflicting rumors as to whether or not it will be a significant or minor upgrade abound.

Additionally, IGN has learned that the system will be based on a revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture, not AMD's Fusion technology as previously believed, which will, as previously reported, out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor. Like the Xbox 360, the system's CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, but the clocking speeds will be faster. The system will support 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well, though it has not been determined whether that will be a staple feature.



In terms of the design of the console itself, the overall size will be comparable to that of the original Xbox 360 and the system is likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES).IGN

  • The console will allegedly cost 350-400 USD at launch.
  • Wii and GameCube backwards compatibility.
  • Possible use of Blu-Ray as storage medium.
  • Nintendo intends to aggressively pursue third-party support for the console.
  • The controller will feature a tablet-like touch-screen along with standard control inputs. Rumors of both HD and sub-HD resolutions for the controller abound.
  • Console will allegedly be able to stream game video and/or information to the controller. This is supported by this Nintendo patent. -Submitted by kav82
  • This new controller will allegedly have some sort of motion control tech, and possibly be used as a sensor bar for using the Wii Remote IR for Wii Backwards Compatibility.
  • It can be assumed if the GameCube compatibility is true, there will be GCN-controller slots or some sort of alternative control method. (CIassic Controller via Wii Remote possibly?)
  • Third parties such as EA, Rockstar, Ubisoft, and Capcom have dev kits and are developing games for the consoles launch.
  • Retro Studios is developing a game that "Everyone wants us to do" for the new system.
  • Nintendo looking to create the first social game console
  • No Friend Codes.
  • Console will be designed around the concept of connecting, sharing, gaming with others.
  • Nintendo hoping to stream video of games being played to other people's consoles so friends can see what each other are up to.
  • Might be able to join another friend's game seamlessly.

UNCONFIRMED PICTURES AND CONCEPTS OF CONSOLE AND CONTROLLERS:

Reported to be concept slides presented to third parties:

Reported "Leaks" of the console. Completely unconfirmed, either fake or possibly a dev kit. Unlikely to be the retail version.

Controller Mock-ups: (Completely fake, just concepts of what the controllers could possibly look like based on the unconfirmed information leaked thus far)


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*Reserved for possible need for future information*

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Can't wait for E3.

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Good thread man, we did need this.
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Good thread man, we did need this.Sik_kid_pk

Haha thanks, the discussion lately has gotten kinda dilluted since we are having so many people coming in who haven't heard old info yet and so they post it as new. Figured having it all in one place where people can see what has been shown and add new information as it comes would aid discussion :)

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where are those pictures from? can the even be slightly trusted? LOOKS SICK :)
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#7 LESROU
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so far the sony/Ms fans are all saying this console will fail. lots of analysts calling this nintendo's last gen. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

even the latest glitchspot...erm gamespot "hotspot podcast" was dissing the wii and its sequal.

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#8 Gamingclone
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Great thread! Hopefully this gets stickied soon.

Also, you dont neccasarly have to do this but, that concept picture for the controller provided by ign, you might want to make sure and let everyone know that picture is solely how they believe it will look. Lol, we dont want people believing that ign has it 100% right :P

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where are those pictures from? can the even be slightly trusted? LOOKS SICK :)fadeetoblackk

Literally all over the place, I was going to try linking each one of them but I couldn't find the original source for most of them. Most are really just concepts, but the real hardware picture is either fake or supposedly a dev kit version

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This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Image 1

Yeah...we have an issue here.

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#11 LESROU
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This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Image 1

Yeah...we have an issue here.

wiifan001

maybe u slide the tablet into the controller then waggle it. LOL

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This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Yeah...we have an issue here.

wiifan001

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

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And I just made another topic about it. My bad :(
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Nice job sir. Hopefully you get this thread stickied and are able to keep it up to date. This will probably be another good thread to frequent and chat with y'all!!

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Nice job sir. Hopefully you get this thread stickied and are able to keep it up to date. This will probably be another good thread to frequent and chat with y'all!!

roboccs

With the exception of 3 days in may when I will be moving and not have internet access setup yet, I'll be scouring the interwebz for updates to add :) Actually hope to convert the thread to an E3 new and announcements thread for the console once the expo rolls around :)

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Yeah...we have an issue here.

WreckEm711

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

the rumour is that it is a tablet touch screen.
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Yeah...we have an issue here.

GunSmith1_basic

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

the rumour is that it is a tablet touch screen.

That is ONE of the rumors, yes, most industry sources are saying that it is a lean towards more standard controllers with a touch screen feature built in, not a straight up tablet.

Newest information that has been reported by several outlets

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Yeah...we have an issue here.

wiifan001

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

They are just as valid as the rumors. Mock-ups = rumors = AB$OLUTE BULL CRAP.

There is a pretty substantial difference between the two. Rumors are reporting information that is given with the possibility of being true, Mock-ups are reported with no possibility of being the real thing, just something they made up to try and fit descriptions given by rumors. So no, they are nowhere near as valid as rumors, because they in no way propose themselves as being valid in the slightest. Now, if someone posted a picture and said "LEAKED CONTROLLER PICTURE!!" then that would be different, these are given with the knowledge that they aren't leaks.

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

This is my problem with rumors:

This is IGN's controller

And below is Gamespot's controller.

Yeah...we have an issue here.

wiifan001

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

They are just as valid as the rumors. Mock-ups = rumors = AB$OLUTE BULL CRAP.

Easy there killer. The mock-ups are there just for fun or to make people think. I don't think anyone takes them too seriously.

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

These aren't rumors though, they are just mock-ups to try and get a picture of what the controller may look like based on information leaked so far. The Gamespot one isn't even valid because the controller is reported to have standard buttons, which that iPad lacks :P

WreckEm711

They are just as valid as the rumors. Mock-ups = rumors = AB$OLUTE BULL CRAP.

There is a pretty substantial difference between the two. Rumors are reporting information that is given with the possibility of being true, Mock-ups are reported with no possibility of being the real thing, just something they made up to try and fit descriptions given by rumors. So no, they are nowhere near as valid as rumors, because they in no way propose themselves as being valid in the slightest. Now, if someone posted a picture and said "LEAKED CONTROLLER PICTURE!!" then that would be different, these are given with the knowledge that they aren't leaks.

The only difference between the two is that the controller mock-ups aren't getting headlines entitled "Project Cafe Controller Leaked (?)." A random group of people can do that on the Internet and spread it. You can put the rumors and controller mock-ups under the same category because nothing legit regarding the details of the Wii successor will be answered until the Nintendo Conference.

I can put any controller mock up right above "Wii successor more powerful than PS3 / XBOX 360" and right below "The Wii successor is backwards compatible with Gamecube titles" because the end result is "wait for E3, answers will be revealed then."

Because all of it is only a possibility. Rumors are possibilities. Controller mock-ups are possibilities.

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"] They are just as valid as the rumors. Mock-ups = rumors = AB$OLUTE BULL CRAP.wiifan001

There is a pretty substantial difference between the two. Rumors are reporting information that is given with the possibility of being true, Mock-ups are reported with no possibility of being the real thing, just something they made up to try and fit descriptions given by rumors. So no, they are nowhere near as valid as rumors, because they in no way propose themselves as being valid in the slightest. Now, if someone posted a picture and said "LEAKED CONTROLLER PICTURE!!" then that would be different, these are given with the knowledge that they aren't leaks.

The only difference between the two is that the controller mock-ups aren't getting headlines entitled "Project Cafe Controller Leaked (?)." A random group of people can do that on the Internet and spread it. You can put the rumors and controller mock-ups under the same category because nothing legit regarding the details of the Wii successor will be answered until the Nintendo Conference.

I can put any controller mock up right above "Wii successor more powerful than PS3 / XBOX 360" and right below "The Wii successor is backwards compatible with Gamecube titles" because the end result is "wait for E3, answers will be revealed then."

Because all of it is only a possibility. Rumors are possibilities. Controller mock-ups are possibilities.

Sure, they could propose them as leaks, but they aren't, thats the difference. It's no different than fan art :P Why create a hypothetical situation just to try and prove that mock-ups are rumors? The mock-ups are NOT rumors, its a very distinguishable difference.

Two rumors have already proven to be true in regards that the console will be unveiled and playable at E3, and that it would release in 2012. If you don't like rumors then you're free to ignore the thread, but some rumors do have a basis in fact and so with the point of forums being to DISCUSS, people will discuss them. Enjoy!

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Good idea. The amount of threads were getting out of hand.
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

There is a pretty substantial difference between the two. Rumors are reporting information that is given with the possibility of being true, Mock-ups are reported with no possibility of being the real thing, just something they made up to try and fit descriptions given by rumors. So no, they are nowhere near as valid as rumors, because they in no way propose themselves as being valid in the slightest. Now, if someone posted a picture and said "LEAKED CONTROLLER PICTURE!!" then that would be different, these are given with the knowledge that they aren't leaks.

WreckEm711

The only difference between the two is that the controller mock-ups aren't getting headlines entitled "Project Cafe Controller Leaked (?)." A random group of people can do that on the Internet and spread it. You can put the rumors and controller mock-ups under the same category because nothing legit regarding the details of the Wii successor will be answered until the Nintendo Conference.

I can put any controller mock up right above "Wii successor more powerful than PS3 / XBOX 360" and right below "The Wii successor is backwards compatible with Gamecube titles" because the end result is "wait for E3, answers will be revealed then."

Because all of it is only a possibility. Rumors are possibilities. Controller mock-ups are possibilities.

Sure, they could propose them as leaks, but they aren't, thats the difference. It's no different than fan art :P Why create a hypothetical situation just to try and prove that mock-ups are rumors? The mock-ups are NOT rumors, its a very distinguishable difference.

Two rumors have already proven to be true in regards that the console will be unveiled and playable at E3, and that it would release in 2012. If you don't like rumors then you're free to ignore the thread, but some rumors do have a basis in fact and so with the point of forums being to DISCUSS, people will discuss them. Enjoy!

leaked project cafe pics

All someone has to do now is take the exact controllers I posted here and the websites claim them as "leaked" as the headline title from the beginning...but they didn't. Between mock ups and rumors, it's all the same via right or wrong, finding out at E3, or maybe many months after E3. Yes, I will take the story that there will be a wii successor releasing in 2012 (F***!!!)...but that's it.

I'm actually not buying the "Wii successor available to be played during E3"...and neither isTom Mcshea. I too am making a call that a finished controller, and the console, won't be given access to the press, but rather a prototype controller available for display only. Prototype!

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

The only difference between the two is that the controller mock-ups aren't getting headlines entitled "Project Cafe Controller Leaked (?)." A random group of people can do that on the Internet and spread it. You can put the rumors and controller mock-ups under the same category because nothing legit regarding the details of the Wii successor will be answered until the Nintendo Conference.

I can put any controller mock up right above "Wii successor more powerful than PS3 / XBOX 360" and right below "The Wii successor is backwards compatible with Gamecube titles" because the end result is "wait for E3, answers will be revealed then."

Because all of it is only a possibility. Rumors are possibilities. Controller mock-ups are possibilities.

wiifan001

Sure, they could propose them as leaks, but they aren't, thats the difference. It's no different than fan art :P Why create a hypothetical situation just to try and prove that mock-ups are rumors? The mock-ups are NOT rumors, its a very distinguishable difference.

Two rumors have already proven to be true in regards that the console will be unveiled and playable at E3, and that it would release in 2012. If you don't like rumors then you're free to ignore the thread, but some rumors do have a basis in fact and so with the point of forums being to DISCUSS, people will discuss them. Enjoy!

leaked project cafe pics

All someone has to do now is take the exact controllers I posted here and the websites claim them as "leaked" as the headline title from the beginning...but they didn't. Between mock ups and rumors, it's all the same via right or wrong, finding out at E3, or maybe many months after E3. Yes, I will take the story that there will be a wii successor releasing in 2012 (F***!!!)...but that's it.

I'm actually not buying the "Wii successor available to be played during E3"...and neither isTom Mcshea. I too am making a call that a finished controller, and the console, won't be given access to the press, but rather a prototype controller available for display only. Prototype!

Yes, you are starting the blatantly obvious in an "IF THEY DID THIS" situation, which they did not.

You don't have to "take" anything :P It's here for people who want to discuss it, which you obviously do not, so... get out?

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This is what Iwata said when he spoke to investors.

"I am afraid I can't say any specific here today but, at E3, the company hopes to propose a new framework for a game system to be enjoyed at home."

http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1163819p1.html

A new framework sounds like it might be related to what 1up said about a "social game console."

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Having read all the rumours and then seeing a couple Nintendo patents (below, with links), here's a theory that might seem fairly plausible... Patent 1: "Example methods and systems for inviting users to play video games involve receiving at an invitation server an invitation from a first user logged into the invitation server using a first game system that invites a second user logged into the invitation server using a second game system to play a game. The invitation is forwarded from the invitation server to the second user and an acceptance of the invitation from the second user is received at the invitation server. Invitation acceptance data indicative of the second user's acceptance is stored at the invitation server after the second user logs out of the invitation server. When the second user subsequently logs back into the invitation server, one or both of the first and second users is sent information based on the stored invitation acceptance that enables the first and second users to play the game." See the link: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0123353.html Patent 2: "A wireless communication game system includes a plurality of mobile game apparatuses, which function as a parent device or a child device and are capable of making a communication with each other, and broadcasts from the parent device a parent device packet including a parent device PID, a user name UserName, a game name GameName, an OC flag, an E slot, a U slot, and a payload. All the parent device packets are received from the parent device existing within a communicationable range of a user's own apparatus, and the user's own apparatus creates a parent device list, and displays the parent device list on an LCD. Therefore, a user or a player of his own apparatus looks at the game name of the parent device list, for example, and operates a cross key included in an operation key so as to select one desired parent device. Then, transmitting a child device number CID of the user's own apparatus at the E slot designated by the parent device packet, the user's own apparatus transmits a connection request to the parent device." See the Link: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7929911.html So here's my theory; Nintendo will have an online service in a similar vein to Xbox Live in that their servers will hold all the information from your "profile" (not the console itself, like the Wii did). Your profile will have a friend code but this one code will work across all games (like the 3DS does). The console will play HD DVD's or whatever format they choose to use and it will be able to stream the games directly to the controller's screen as rumoured. For single player games and for when one person is playing the console, the TV will be the main screen in use, with the controller screen acting as a secondary (item management etc). For multiplayer games, the TV will be used either as one persons screen with everyone else using their controllers as their screen, or the TV will be a secondary display (showing scores, map etc) whilst the everyone's controller screen is where the gameplay is at. This means that you don't have to play split-screen. The controller itself will house your "profile" as opposed to the console. It will sync with the Nintendo servers via the actual console itself and keep them updated so save data and profile info can't be lost. With the controller housing the profile you will be able take the controller alone to a friends and play on their console without having to download your profile to their console (like you do with the 360; recovering your Gamertag) as it will communicate with the Nintendo servers via your friends console and they'll recognise it. This way I could take my controller to my friends house, we could both go online with our profiles and game off the one system without having to use split-screen. This is basically Nintendo's vision of connectivity (GBA-GC) and their idea of housing a profile in the controller (Mii's saved to your Wiimotes) coming to fruition in this new console, all tied up with an online service that finally give us what we want! I reckon that sounds possible... doesn't it..?!
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Fianlly we have a sticky to see all the info of this new console without getting flooded with new threads.

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Thanks for the contributions guys, added em to the OP.

@Kav regarding your theory, I would be really excited if thats true, but it would be weird for some genres, especially when I prefer having a larger tv screen over a six inch one in my hands. What I think when I hear their emphasis on "social gaming," I just cant help but think a really big emphasis on multiplayer, both local and online!

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#30 wiifan001
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It's here for people who want to discuss it, which you obviously do not, so... get out?

WreckEm711

You think I don't want to discuss it?

My most recent post was countering one of the two claimed confirmed pieces, which is a completed controller design that the public would be able to access and interact with it. I am calling this CONFIRMED by IGN message as false, at least for this time being, and ave a Gamespot staff member to share the same view about this confirmed issue.

Here's my current contribution. YOU'RE WELCOME.

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#31 GameboyTroy
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It would be great if we can play Dreamcast games on the Project Cafe's Virtual Console. I didn't get a chance to play them before.

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#32 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"] It's here for people who want to discuss it, which you obviously do not, so... get out?

wiifan001

You think I don't want to discuss it?

My most recent post was countering one of the two claimed confirmed pieces, which is a completed controller design that the public would be able to access and interact with it. I am calling this CONFIRMED by IGN message as false, at least for this time being, and ave a Gamespot staff member to share the same view about this confirmed issue.

Here's my current contribution. YOU'RE WELCOME.

You need to relax lol. I don't have the rumor posted that the public would be able to play it, the statement that is CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO is that there would be a playable model at E3. Whether this means it could be playable for the conference only, or maybe only the press, or possibly even public. Hence why this is a RUMOR. Thank you for your contributions

I also don't know where you're getting the misinformation that the controller has been confirmed, nowhere in anything i've posted in this thread states any confirmation in it. Unless you're talking about the other thread where IGN says they're "pretty sure" about it, which I guess if you want to interpret as confirmation you're free to, but I still have it categorized under unconfirmed

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#33 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"] It's here for people who want to discuss it, which you obviously do not, so... get out?

WreckEm711

You think I don't want to discuss it?

My most recent post was countering one of the two claimed confirmed pieces, which is a completed controller design that the public would be able to access and interact with it. I am calling this CONFIRMED by IGN message as false, at least for this time being, and ave a Gamespot staff member to share the same view about this confirmed issue.

Here's my current contribution. YOU'RE WELCOME.

You need to relax lol. I don't have the rumor posted that the public would be able to play it, the statement that is CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO is that there would be a playable model at E3. Whether this means it could be playable for the conference only, or maybe only the press, or possibly even public. Hence why this is a RUMOR. Thank you for your contributions

I also don't know where you're getting the misinformation that the controller has been confirmed, nowhere in anything i've posted in this thread states any confirmation in it.

I never claimed, nor do I claim that a controller has been leaked or confirmed...kind of my point throughout this. Neither did nor do I claim any confirmation within this thread that a controller model has been confirmed. I had said they are all to be treated exactly as if it were a rumor, since the results and approaches of taking them on would be all the same, and we'd get the answers at the Nintendo Conference. Now, about this playable model at E3, which sites have confirmation of that...besides IGN?
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#34 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

You think I don't want to discuss it?

My most recent post was countering one of the two claimed confirmed pieces, which is a completed controller design that the public would be able to access and interact with it. I am calling this CONFIRMED by IGN message as false, at least for this time being, and ave a Gamespot staff member to share the same view about this confirmed issue.

Here's my current contribution. YOU'RE WELCOME.

wiifan001

You need to relax lol. I don't have the rumor posted that the public would be able to play it, the statement that is CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO is that there would be a playable model at E3. Whether this means it could be playable for the conference only, or maybe only the press, or possibly even public. Hence why this is a RUMOR. Thank you for your contributions

I also don't know where you're getting the misinformation that the controller has been confirmed, nowhere in anything i've posted in this thread states any confirmation in it.

I never claimed, nor do I claim that a controller has been leaked or confirmed...kind of my point throughout this. Neither did nor do I claim any confirmation within this thread that a controller model has been confirmed. I had said they are all to be treated exactly as if it were a rumor, since the results and approaches of taking them on would be all the same, and we'd get the answers at the Nintendo Conference. Now, about this playable model at E3, which sites have confirmation of that...besides IGN?

Go ahead and read the bolded red.

Nintendo, which was stated in an official press release and at their investors meeting. Which is linked on the first page under the confirmed section :|

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#35 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

You need to relax lol. I don't have the rumor posted that the public would be able to play it, the statement that is CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO is that there would be a playable model at E3. Whether this means it could be playable for the conference only, or maybe only the press, or possibly even public. Hence why this is a RUMOR. Thank you for your contributions

I also don't know where you're getting the misinformation that the controller has been confirmed, nowhere in anything i've posted in this thread states any confirmation in it.

WreckEm711

I never claimed, nor do I claim that a controller has been leaked or confirmed...kind of my point throughout this. Neither did nor do I claim any confirmation within this thread that a controller model has been confirmed. I had said they are all to be treated exactly as if it were a rumor, since the results and approaches of taking them on would be all the same, and we'd get the answers at the Nintendo Conference. Now, about this playable model at E3, which sites have confirmation of that...besides IGN?

Go ahead and read the bolded red.

The bolded red is not legit.

The difference between them is we don't have a leaked controller as of right now At. This. Moment., and the 2nd thing you bolded red is me referring to what we will see at the Nintendo Conference by that time, be it a prototype or completed controller.

I've been stressing that we may see either the prototype or the completed controller when the Nintendo Conference comes around, which is over a month away. What I don't agree with is the actually interacting with it, at this point in time.

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#37 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"] I never claimed, nor do I claim that a controller has been leaked or confirmed...kind of my point throughout this. Neither did nor do I claim any confirmation within this thread that a controller model has been confirmed. I had said they are all to be treated exactly as if it were a rumor, since the results and approaches of taking them on would be all the same, and we'd get the answers at the Nintendo Conference. Now, about this playable model at E3, which sites have confirmation of that...besides IGN?wiifan001

Go ahead and read the bolded red.

The bolded red is not legit.

The difference between them is we don't have a leaked controller as of right now At. This. Moment., and the 2nd thing you bolded red is me referring to what we will see at the Nintendo Conference by that time, be it a prototype or completed controller.

I've been stressing that we may see either the prototype or the completed controller when the Nintendo Conference comes around, which is over a month away. What I don't agree with is the actually interacting with it, at this point in time.

No one has confirmed anything about the public being able to play it at E3..? The only confirmation comes from Nintendo, which is why it being playable at E3 by public would be a rumor, yes, but no one is claiming that it is otherwise. :?

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#38 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Go ahead and read the bolded red.WreckEm711

The bolded red is not legit.

The difference between them is we don't have a leaked controller as of right now At. This. Moment., and the 2nd thing you bolded red is me referring to what we will see at the Nintendo Conference by that time, be it a prototype or completed controller.

I've been stressing that we may see either the prototype or the completed controller when the Nintendo Conference comes around, which is over a month away. What I don't agree with is the actually interacting with it, at this point in time.

No one has confirmed anything about the public being able to play it at E3..? The only confirmation comes from Nintendo, which is why it being playable at E3 by public would be a rumor, yes, but no one is claiming that it is otherwise. :?

This is what IGN is confirmingon Page 2.

RUMOR SEVEN: "Cafe" will be playable at E3.


"This was one of those bits we weren't sure on as information was being given to us. A successor to Wii, not due until 2012, being playable so soon? That seemed a bit unlike Nintendo. Still, given the company's apparent interest in getting something in stores sooner rather than later, we're not too surprised the company is pushing this in front of the public. What makes this even more believable is that Nintendo released a statement saying all E3 attendees would be able to play 'Project Cafe' at E3 2011, making this [CONFIRMED]"

It says all E3 attendees will get the chance to play "Project Cafe" this year. The problem that I am having with this is so far the only source of confirmation that I know of is of IGN...that doesn't fully convince me. I need other sources first.

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#39 thom_maytees
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To be sure: is the sticky on rumor information or just Project Cafe discussion in general? It would be best to have all Project Cafe discussion on this sticky so it will not flood the Wii forum. There is no point having a new thread each day on this upcoming system.

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#40 WreckEm711
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This is what IGN is confirmingon Page 2.

RUMOR SEVEN: "Cafe" will be playable at E3.


"This was one of those bits we weren't sure on as information was being given to us. A successor to Wii, not due until 2012, being playable so soon? That seemed a bit unlike Nintendo. Still, given the company's apparent interest in getting something in stores sooner rather than later, we're not too surprised the company is pushing this in front of the public. What makes this even more believable is that Nintendo released a statement saying all E3 attendees would be able to play 'Project Cafe' at E3 2011, making this CONFIRMED"

It says all E3 attendees will get the chance to play "Project Cafe" this year. The problem that I am having with this is so far the only source of confirmation that I know of is of IGN...that doesn't fully convince me. I need other sources first.

wiifan001

Ooooh nice catch on that one, my mistake, I had no idea IGN said that :shock:

To my knowledge they are the only ones saying that Nintendo said that, the official press release by Nintendo only says that there will be a playable model. Seems like someone at IGN got a little too trigger happy :P

To be sure: is the sticky on rumor information or just Project Cafe discussion in general? It would be best to have all Project Cafe discussion on this sticky so it will not flood the Wii forum. There is no point having a new thread each day on this upcoming system.

thom_maytees

I've stickied the Project Cafe thread, but with a caveat, that being that it's the place where rumor discussion goes. Other discussion I'll leave alone. The reason for this is that rumors about what it might contain is where information really is apt to get redundantly reposted and discussed. I don't think there's any pressing reason to forbid discussion like "Will you get the next Nintendo console?" at this point in time.

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From the man himself!

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#41 DDRMom
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Thanks for the contributions guys, added em to the OP.

@Kav regarding your theory, I would be really excited if thats true, but it would be weird for some genres, especially when I prefer having a larger tv screen over a six inch one in my hands. What I think when I hear their emphasis on "social gaming," I just cant help but think a really big emphasis on multiplayer, both local and online!WreckEm711

When I hear social gaming I think Farmville, Mafia Wars and other facebook games and that, honestly, scares me.

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]Thanks for the contributions guys, added em to the OP.

@Kav regarding your theory, I would be really excited if thats true, but it would be weird for some genres, especially when I prefer having a larger tv screen over a six inch one in my hands. What I think when I hear their emphasis on "social gaming," I just cant help but think a really big emphasis on multiplayer, both local and online!DDRMom

When I hear social gaming I think Farmville, Mafia Wars and other facebook games and that, honestly, scares me.

I figure it just means a more social experience. Just look at the 3DS and how the device helps people be more "social" about gaming. Forr example you can send Mii's through QR images, you can play face raiders, take pictures of your friends and use them in it and you can use StreetPass to interact with people who you cross who have their 3DS in sleep mode as well. Those are the kinds of things I think Nintendo is moving more towards. Creating a more socially acceptable experience with their platforms, a lot like what was done with the Wii and DS.
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#43 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]Thanks for the contributions guys, added em to the OP.

@Kav regarding your theory, I would be really excited if thats true, but it would be weird for some genres, especially when I prefer having a larger tv screen over a six inch one in my hands. What I think when I hear their emphasis on "social gaming," I just cant help but think a really big emphasis on multiplayer, both local and online!DDRMom

When I hear social gaming I think Farmville, Mafia Wars and other facebook games and that, honestly, scares me.

What, you don't want to play Farmville 3DS?

IT NEVER LEAVES YOU :o

:P

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#45 roboccs
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Has Nintendo officially announced when their E3 presentation is?? If it's like normal it'll be Tuesday, June 7th at noon eastern. I can't find anything that officially has Nintendo's time slot though. I think Sony is doing theirs on Monday if I'm not mistaken. That's throwing the whole thing off!!

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It seems to me that the rumors may have stopped for now.
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#48 roboccs
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Nice. That would make sense because it's when they are on every year. Hopefully that is accurate because I have some calendar time blocked off for the event. It'll be my lunch break if I can help it.

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#49 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]Thanks for the contributions guys, added em to the OP.

@Kav regarding your theory, I would be really excited if thats true, but it would be weird for some genres, especially when I prefer having a larger tv screen over a six inch one in my hands. What I think when I hear their emphasis on "social gaming," I just cant help but think a really big emphasis on multiplayer, both local and online!DDRMom

When I hear social gaming I think Farmville, Mafia Wars and other facebook games and that, honestly, scares me.

The thought had crossed my mind... With as massively successful as things like Zenga, 99c apps, and iPad games have been, it sounds like something that Nintendo may try and integrate into the home console market. I'm pretty sure that would count as taking casualization 2 steps further than the Wii did :P

So rather than make my soul hurt, I like to think of it as an emphasis on online and multiplayer :D

(My other post on the date of the conference like, HTML broke the thread for me to see and so i deleted it lol)

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#50 DDRMom
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What, you don't want to play Farmville 3DS?

IT NEVER LEAVES YOU :o

:PGabuEx

I don't want to have to ban games on a Nintendo console but I will if Farmville makes an appearance.