Nintendo moving away from games ironic

Remember when nintendo said they didn't feel the need to have a DVD player built in the GC or Wii cause they focus strictly 100% on games, now they are embracing stuff like Wii-Fit, i mean "A" for effort but that really isnt a game, it's like an interactive excersise DVD, like excercise is healthy i go outside every day but, when i play Wii i just want to play games, it shouldn't be up to your video game console to take care of you, it should be yourself and consoles should be just games, as thats what everyone baught them for, i just feel like Wii Fit stole another games place at E3, very dissapointed, and we all love wii sports cause it came bundled with Wii! of course everyone will play it, but i havent touched it since january cause i like real games with depth. comments.

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Michael85

I second that motion.

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okay, so I couldn't find the exact pic that I was looking for but this will do (im sure everyone here knows the bit that Im talking about).

i dont understand how any gamer could be excited/pleased with wii fit, its not a game at all. i worry that nintendo is getting way too wrapped up in their quest to appeal to the casual gamer and leaving us all in the dust. does anyone else get sick to their stomach when every time they announce a new game its followed by something like, "even the casual gamer will be able to pick up and play this game" reggie said it with mario kart, its been said with galaxy, and even anouma when talking about the next zelda said that theyre working on making the zelda experience approachable to the casual gamer.

is anyone else worried?

Welcome to the future, software will become more and more varied.

First of all, Owl777 is not a loser just because he has an opinion. Windwaker1 has a great point, and my point is for all of you to step outside the box and open your eyes......Truly, take a long look at what Nintendo is trying to accomplish. Try to envision it; thereasoning....which is to get the gamer more involved (off the couch!) and to hit a broader demographic with innovation. This innovation could very well create the avalanche needed to break the mold. I can see the potential for this particular innovation to be integrated into other games, with the addition of the weight sensing balance board, and then throw in the Wii-mote! Voila! This mode of thinking that Nintendo uses, is very closely reminiscent to the strategy based element used in the board game chess. They think ahead several ideas, and then design based on what can be built off of. This genius is what has given so many great innovative games and peripherals over the years. Without the Gameboy, there would be no DS, and so on! Just think about it people, what the possibilities are.....We could very well see a console game in the near future that utilizes are very body movement for game play! Wake up out there!Smogtoe

lol, why would you call this guy an idiot for voicing his opinion on a product that looks extremely dull and not really a game at all? I buy video game consoles to play video games, not to do step aerobics and yoga.

Are there other possibilities for the pressure pad? Sure. But it doesn't mean I want to be forced to stand up and dance around everytime I play a game.

If anything WiiFit will make people who would have never owned a video console in their life consider picking up a console... and then again, how does having people who don't play traditional games good for people that like normal games? I imagine to see a horde of gimicky games to utilize the new pad in place of more traditional nintendo games.

You still don't understand that WiiFit is for the people who bought the Wii for WiiSports. That's it. It will sell the console. I'm not worried about that. Nintendo is doing what Microsoft and Sony failed. Bring the mass. They still want the hardcore but they want the non-gamers as well. Also, Casual games are not the same as the non-gamers games.

Wiifit also has the potential to be sold in schools, hospitals and other medical areas for rehabilitation as well as get people to exorcise. One of the hardest issues with exercise is getting people in it and then make them commit. Wiifit could very well be a major step in getting people devoted to an exercise routine.

They are also adding a lot of game modes to wiifit so you will have a gaming expierence with it. You know how some schools are using DDR? Imagine them using wiifit, wiisports, and any DDR game that came out for the wii. Do you know how effective that would be in advertising the wii?

Schools in Japan use the DS for instance with certain DS software. Ever wonder why over 150,000 DSs each week are sold in Japan that is one of the reasons. Kids get exposed to it using it as a school tool and the parents then seeing an improvement in the school work buy the DS with those eduatiment titles to practice on at home. Then come the game sales.

i dont understand how any gamer could be excited/pleased with wii fit, its not a game at all. i worry that nintendo is getting way too wrapped up in their quest to appeal to the casual gamer and leaving us all in the dust. does anyone else get sick to their stomach when every time they announce a new game its followed by something like, "even the casual gamer will be able to pick up and play this game" reggie said it with mario kart, its been said with galaxy, and even anouma when talking about the next zelda said that theyre working on making the zelda experience approachable to the casual gamer.

is anyone else worried?

volcomsk8r63

Hopefully the "casual gamer" thing, for Mario Kart. Will stay with the easy use of the controller (which looks awesome IMO).

I will hate Nintendo for along time if they go ahead and do it to the next Zelda. TP already tried that IMO, I beat it hardcore over the weekend, leaving me with nothing else to do in the game.

I still sit down and play older games like OOT, and have tons of fun finding new little things. TP was also too big. It lacked NPC conversation content. Sidequests, and stuff to look and do, when you were running around the big, open, but empty world.

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i dont understand how any gamer could be excited/pleased with wii fit, its not a game at all. i worry that nintendo is getting way too wrapped up in their quest to appeal to the casual gamer and leaving us all in the dust. does anyone else get sick to their stomach when every time they announce a new game its followed by something like, "even the casual gamer will be able to pick up and play this game" reggie said it with mario kart, its been said with galaxy, and even anouma when talking about the next zelda said that theyre working on making the zelda experience approachable to the casual gamer.

is anyone else worried?

Relys

I will hate Nintendo for along time if they go ahead and do it to the next Zelda. TP already tried that IMO...

I still sit down and play older games like OOT, and have tons of fun finding new little things. TP was also too big. It lacked NPC conversation content. Sidequests, and stuff to look and do, when you were running around the big, open, but empty world.

I think I love you.

Say you loved MM, then I'll love you even more! :)

...Sorry, I'm just sick of all the people who swear that TP was the epitome of the Zelda franchise.

Remember when nintendo said they didn't feel the need to have a DVD player built in the GC or Wii cause they focus strictly 100% on games, now they are embracing stuff like Wii-Fit, i mean "A" for effort but that really isnt a game, it's like an interactive excersise DVD, like excercise is healthy i go outside every day but, when i play Wii i just want to play games, it shouldn't be up to your video game console to take care of you, it should be yourself and consoles should be just games, as thats what everyone baught them for, i just feel like Wii Fit stole another games place at E3, very dissapointed, and we all love wii sports cause it came bundled with Wii! of course everyone will play it, but i havent touched it since january cause i like real games with depth. comments.

owl777

Technically, Wii fit is a game. If it's a game you don't want, don't buy it. And I understand how you think it's stupid that people would rely on a game to help them lose weight, but some people are so lame they will do it. Just look at DDR. I have friends who said that DDRis the reason theylost wieght. But hey, if people are willing top lose money doing it that way, let companies liek Konami and Nintendo just take the money.

Just don't let it bother you, it's just some game.

i dont understand how any gamer could be excited/pleased with wii fit, its not a game at all. i worry that nintendo is getting way too wrapped up in their quest to appeal to the casual gamer and leaving us all in the dust. does anyone else get sick to their stomach when every time they announce a new game its followed by something like, "even the casual gamer will be able to pick up and play this game" reggie said it with mario kart, its been said with galaxy, and even anouma when talking about the next zelda said that theyre working on making the zelda experience approachable to the casual gamer.

is anyone else worried?

volcomsk8r63

All the harcore Ninty games are being dumbed down for dumb casuals.. WII WANT GAMES.. not wii fit..

Your right, but that's just for us gamers. Nitendos goal right now is to get more to people to play games and that's what they are succeding at. There is still core games like smash bros and mario and metroid, but for people that hate that stuff, there is wii fit.

I'm definitely buying Wii-Fit, and I'm glad they spent a lot of time on it. It's going to be the next brain-age. The purpose of E3 is to sell their products to businesses, not to please you.

Some of you really need to get your head out of your ass. Just because Nintendo says they're doing the market good, doesn't mean they really are. The TC has a great point. WiiFit is NOT a real game, and if y'all are happy about it, be that way, but don't flame the rest of us. We are getting more and more trashy mini-games, ports, and other nongamer trash, and STILL some of you aren't worried about it. Yes, 2007 is gonna end up being a wonderful year, but what about 2008? Mario Kart Wii and a few other titlesare all the major games we get? C'mon, where is Zelda, Kid Icarus, StarFox, Pikmin, etc? What happened to Project HAMMER andDisaster? Is Ninty really spending as much time on games like WiiFitas they are ongames like Super Mario Galaxy? If they are really serious about online, why haven't they announced SSBB to be online (and NO, it hasn't officially been stated to be online)? Why don't we have a DVD attachment yet? And if all that wasn't bad enough, now they are making us buy more things to play our games. The Wii board looks really interesting, but if they start making games that use it, won't we need 4 of them to play multiplayer? How many hundreds of dollars will that cost? And then we have to buy 4 Wii Zappers for games like RE:UC, Ghost Squad, and MoH: Heroes 2. And when Mario Kart comes out? Three more steering wheels will have to be bought so everyone can play (trust me, it's much easier to race with a wheel). With all these problems, how can you guys STILL be happy. I'm worried to death.GamerForca

I'm not too worried about Nintendo. The Wii Zapper is something that will make first person shooters easier but it doesn't have any buttons or anything so it's not a neccessity(sp). Same goes for the Wii wheel, you can easily just use the Wii-remote to play that game as well. As for the Wii board,I don't know what kind of games will come out for it or if it'll even have multiple titles but that might be the only thing you have to buy extras for. I dont remember if he said Wii Fit comes with a board or not but i bet it will and they will probably sell for $30. Nintendo is being innovative and there are plenty of games coming out this holiday season for the "core" gamer. Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, NiGHTS, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles and plenty of sports games. Awhile back these "casual" games were called party games but now anyone that makes a new party game will instantly be looked down upon because it's only for "casual" gamers..bleh, grow up. Mario Party and games like that are fun, no one is making you buy them and not everyone is producing them. So don't give up on Nintendo just yet, oh and about online play...Nintendo sucks at that. Friend Codes are pathetic and I personally would rather play games next to my friends than over the internet. Oh and you asked where Zelda is....umm it's called Zelda: Twilight Princess. It may not have started at a Wii game but it ended up as one, a great one at that. It wasnt the best Zelda ever but it was great none the less and it was a "core" game. Blah....im not even going to start judging games as "core" or "casual". Thats stupid. Games are games, some are easy party games, others are just like what were used to.

I'm definitely buying Wii-Fit, and I'm glad they spent a lot of time on it. It's going to be the next brain-age. The purpose of E3 is to sell their products to businesses, not to please you.

Staryoshi87

Exactly, Wii-Fit is going to be a new, fun way to play some video games that my favorite company are working on. It's americas fault for being the fattest country on earth that they make games like that anyway. I'm looking forward to Wii-Fit alot, though Im not fat XD

I'm not too worried about Nintendo. The Wii Zapper is something that will make first person shooters easier but it doesn't have any buttons or anything so it's not a neccessity(sp). Same goes for the Wii wheel, you can easily just use the Wii-remote to play that game as well. As for the Wii board,I don't know what kind of games will come out for it or if it'll even have multiple titles but that might be the only thing you have to buy extras for. I dont remember if he said Wii Fit comes with a board or not but i bet it will and they will probably sell for $30. Nintendo is being innovative and there are plenty of games coming out this holiday season for the "core" gamer. Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, NiGHTS, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles and plenty of sports games. Awhile back these "casual" games were called party games but now anyone that makes a new party game will instantly be looked down upon because it's only for "casual" gamers..bleh, grow up. Mario Party and games like that are fun, no one is making you buy them and not everyone is producing them. So don't give up on Nintendo just yet, oh and about online play...Nintendo sucks at that. Friend Codes are pathetic and I personally would rather play games next to my friends than over the internet. Oh and you asked where Zelda is....umm it's called Zelda: Twilight Princess. It may not have started at a Wii game but it ended up as one, a great one at that. It wasnt the best Zelda ever but it was great none the less and it was a "core" game. Blah....im not even going to start judging games as "core" or "casual". Thats stupid. Games are games, some are easy party games, others are just like what were used to.

fon1988

I'll break this into pieces so we won't just have a huge wall of text lol:

1. No, you can't just as easily use the Wiimote by itself for racing games. Not at all. I've played NFS:C and I can tell you right now that without a wheel, it is impossible to steer a fast car at all. The wheel adds much needed control.

2. No, WiiFit will probably sell for at least $50, because that's what WiiPlay was sold at and it didn't come with a board, it came with a Wiimote. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for $60+.

3. Like I stated, the Wii's lineup for 2007 is wonderful. But tell me what's up for 2008. From the looks of it, we have little to look forward to. I want Zelda, Kid Icarus, StarFox, some other great Ninty franchise, or a good FPS, not WiiFit.

4. Sure, not everyone is making those "party" games, but we obviously are seeing more of them. I don't mind seeing a few for people who don't want other kinds of games, but I'm tired of this excess of games like WiiPlay and WiiFit. I want real games, but while Nintendo is doing a good job with getting some out there, we arent' seeing as much. As for 3rd parties.... despite saying they are focusing on Wii, most of what we are seeing are knockoffs of great franchises (i.e. Soul Calibur Legends, RE:UC). That worries me.

5. Twilight Princess is aGCN game ported to Wii with Wii controls. It doesn't matter what anyone says on this matter, but that's how it is. It was also one of my least favoritegames in the franchise. I want a Zelda made for the Wii, not made for the GCN and ported over. I'm sorry if you disagree.

Remember when nintendo said they didn't feel the need to have a DVD player built in the GC or Wii cause they focus strictly 100% on games, now they are embracing stuff like Wii-Fit, i mean "A" for effort but that really isnt a game, it's like an interactive excersise DVD, like excercise is healthy i go outside every day but, when i play Wii i just want to play games, it shouldn't be up to your video game console to take care of you, it should be yourself and consoles should be just games, as thats what everyone baught them for, i just feel like Wii Fit stole another games place at E3, very dissapointed, and we all love wii sports cause it came bundled with Wii! of course everyone will play it, but i havent touched it since january cause i like real games with depth. comments.

owl777

I have to agree with you. I truly see wii fit as a dumb down slower version of richard simmons swinging to the oldies. it is a contradiction for nintendo to say they are focusing on games yet bring out something that really isn't a game. i don't rely on my video games to lose weight. i have a membership at gold's gym for that and healthy foods galore in my kitchen. this is why people say the wii is for the casual gamer and the wii is just a fad etc.. they need to make some changes gamewise if they want to be successful next-gen

and dont give me no stupid infraction mods. everytime i voice my opinion you all infract me and say i'm trolling. grow up. not everyone shares the same opinions as you.