Nintendo encourages constant battery charging? Is this true?

So i read in an article that Nintendo encourages you to charge the system as much as possible....even if you've fully charged the system and played it for only 30 mins

they said that the battery pack nintendo chose was designed for constant charging...which is why nintendo included the charging cradle, so you could easily just toss the 3DS right on it after your done and be on your way

i mean i guess that makes sense as to what the cradle was for....but this just sounds odd to me because i've always known for batteries to be taken down to it's absolute minimal before you charged it because if you didn't it would lose it's zero point and wouldn't hold as long of a charge anymore

If this is true and this battery really is different than other batteries and can be charged alot without losing it's zero point then that totally solves the low battery life for me because i never take play this thing for more than an hour at a time anyway...so i can just slap it right on there after i'm done

Why wouldn't they say that? It's a lithium-ion battery, they have no memory effect, charging doesn't affect the total lifetime at all

Why wouldn't they say that? It's a lithium-ion battery, they have no memory effect, charging doesn't affect the total lifetime at all

ArchoNils2

im going to trust you on this one...

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

Why wouldn't they say that? It's a lithium-ion battery, they have no memory effect, charging doesn't affect the total lifetime at all

tutt3r

im going to trust you on this one...

hmmm....i guess i'm going to as well....

i've still never heard of any battery being like this...but i'll trust you, lol

i just don't wanna shorten it anymore than it already is

At the 2 posters after my post: Here's the Wiki aricle and I might quote:

Lithium-ion batteries are common in consumer electronics. They are one of the most popular types of rechargeable battery for portable electronics, with one of the best energy densities, no memory effect, and a slow loss of charge when not in use. Beyond consumer electronics, LIBs are also growing in popularity for military, electric vehicle, and aerospace applications.[7] Research is yielding a stream of improvements to traditional LIB technology, focusing on energy density, durability, cost, and intrinsic safety.

To give you an idea of how much power the 3DS is using, it says the mAh on the back of the device. The 3DS uses a 900mAh battery pack, in comparison to the 450mAh that the DSlite uses. We can at least say that the 3DS is a power hog, however, a better battery pack could have been put in but would have increased the weight of the device as well as the price.MajorPain10

Oh and to give you an idea how much those 900mAh are: I bought a 3600 mAh battery for my PSP several years ago and isn't bigger than the 3DSs battery. In fact the original PSP had a 1800 mAh battery. That said, the only reason we have 3 hours instad of 12 hours is because Nintendo wants to make a win of around $100 with every unit sold -.-' Seriously, there's no excuse for that

[QUOTE="MajorPain10"]To give you an idea of how much power the 3DS is using, it says the mAh on the back of the device. The 3DS uses a 900mAh battery pack, in comparison to the 450mAh that the DSlite uses. We can at least say that the 3DS is a power hog, however, a better battery pack could have been put in but would have increased the weight of the device as well as the price.ArchoNils2

Oh and to give you an idea how much those 900mAh are: I bought a 3600 mAh battery for my PSP several years ago and isn't bigger than the 3DSs battery. In fact the original PSP had a 1800 mAh battery. That said, the only reason we have 3 hours instad of 12 hours is because Nintendo wants to make a win of around $100 with every unit sold -.-' Seriously, there's no excuse for that

sad face

i really like the life of the psp battery, would've been cool to have that in the 3DS

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[QUOTE="MajorPain10"]To give you an idea of how much power the 3DS is using, it says the mAh on the back of the device. The 3DS uses a 900mAh battery pack, in comparison to the 450mAh that the DSlite uses. We can at least say that the 3DS is a power hog, however, a better battery pack could have been put in but would have increased the weight of the device as well as the price.tutt3r

Oh and to give you an idea how much those 900mAh are: I bought a 3600 mAh battery for my PSP several years ago and isn't bigger than the 3DSs battery. In fact the original PSP had a 1800 mAh battery. That said, the only reason we have 3 hours instad of 12 hours is because Nintendo wants to make a win of around $100 with every unit sold -.-' Seriously, there's no excuse for that

sad face

i really like the life of the psp battery, would've been cool to have that in the 3DS

There's still hope that we might be able to buy better batteries. I'm fine if 3rd party do so, but I get mad if Nintendo tries to make some extra money with better batteries :S

I just did some research on these batterries and found that it is better to recharge your batterry more an not fully discharge it. And if you need to store it for a long time it is best to have the batterry at 40% charge. The main thing that ruins your batterry is temperature. Higher temperatures for prolonged periods will hurt your batterry.

So it's actually better for us to leave the 3DS on all the time and never shut it off? When we're not using it, even if it's only lost a little bit of power just close the system and leave it in the docking station to charge?

Precisely!

[QUOTE="MajorPain10"]To give you an idea of how much power the 3DS is using, it says the mAh on the back of the device. The 3DS uses a 900mAh battery pack, in comparison to the 450mAh that the DSlite uses. We can at least say that the 3DS is a power hog, however, a better battery pack could have been put in but would have increased the weight of the device as well as the price.ArchoNils2

Oh and to give you an idea how much those 900mAh are: I bought a 3600 mAh battery for my PSP several years ago and isn't bigger than the 3DSs battery. In fact the original PSP had a 1800 mAh battery. That said, the only reason we have 3 hours instad of 12 hours is because Nintendo wants to make a win of around $100 with every unit sold -.-' Seriously, there's no excuse for that

...the only reason we have 3 hours instad of 12 hours is because Nintendo wants to make a win of around $100 with every unit sold -.-' Seriously, there's no excuse for thatArchoNils2

I really doubt Nintendo's profit margain per unit is that high. If you're basing that on the cost of raw materials (i.e lumps of plastic and metal) then keep in mind that it takes money to turn raw materials into components, and it costs more money to turn those components into a Nintendo 3DS, and it costs more money still to promote the 3DS and ship it to your local store for you to buy.

To give you an idea of how much power the 3DS is using, it says the mAh on the back of the device. The 3DS uses a 900mAh battery pack, in comparison to the 450mAh that the DSlite uses. We can at least say that the 3DS is a power hog, however, a better battery pack could have been put in but would have increased the weight of the device as well as the price.MajorPain10

So i read in an article that Nintendo encourages you to charge the system as much as possible....even if you've fully charged the system and played it for only 30 mins

they said that the battery pack nintendo chose was designed for constant charging...which is why nintendo included the charging cradle, so you could easily just toss the 3DS right on it after your done and be on your way

i mean i guess that makes sense as to what the cradle was for....but this just sounds odd to me because i've always known for batteries to be taken down to it's absolute minimal before you charged it because if you didn't it would lose it's zero point and wouldn't hold as long of a charge anymore

If this is true and this battery really is different than other batteries and can be charged alot without losing it's zero point then that totally solves the low battery life for me because i never take play this thing for more than an hour at a time anyway...so i can just slap it right on there after i'm done

CDUB316

With all the covering up of massive mistakes Nintendo is doing this week.Coolyfett

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Seriously, bro, what the hell are you talking about?

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]With all the covering up of massive mistakes Nintendo is doing this week.dzimm

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Seriously, bro, what the hell are you talking about?

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

From the President/CEO of Nintendo himself:

"As for the battery,it is inevitable that Nintendo 3DS will be a device which requires more frequent recharging than Nintendo DS. This is why we are going to include the cradle, which is a dedicated battery charger. Perhaps we may need to dispatch to our consumers a message, something like, 'Please place your Nintendo 3DS on the cradle as soon as you return home with it.'"

-Satoru Iwata

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my 3ds is pretty much always on the cradle whenever im not using it :P

I feel really silly/dumb for believing the myth about overcharging now. :)

That's good to know though. Now I can just leave it in its cradle most of the time.

I've heard that, with notebooks anyways, that it is good to completely drain and recharge your battery once in a while. Is this also false?

I just charge it in the cradle when I'm not using it. That seems like that simple method to me.

i've had my 3ds on sleep mode for the past 7 hours now and it's still @ full charge

so it doesn't seem like it's being affected that much.

i have a feeling sleep mode is encouraged instead of total shut down like the ps3

and modern pcs.

i do have the 3d, volume and wireless off whenever it's on sleep mode.

I feel really silly/dumb for believing the myth about overcharging now. :)

That's good to know though. Now I can just leave it in its cradle most of the time.

I've heard that, with notebooks anyways, that it is good to completely drain and recharge your battery once in a while. Is this also false?

kirkonacid

i don't think you can overcharge it because the charger turns itself off automatically once it's full.

if you try to remove it from the cradle when it's full and put it back in, the charge indicator

will light up but it will immediately disappear again after a minute.

i've had my 3ds on sleep mode for the past 7 hours now and it's still @ full charge

so it doesn't seem like it's being affected that much.

i have a feeling sleep mode is encouraged instead of total shut down like the ps3

and modern pcs.

i do have the 3d, volume and wireless off whenever it's on sleep mode.

Batang_X990

I think turning the wireless off in sleep mode will definitely help, but I don't think turning the volume and 3d slider down will do anything. :) In fact, I don't think the 3d slider affects battery life even when the system turned on. From what I understand, the 3d effect is purely mechanical so it doesn't affect battery at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE="Batang_X990"]

i've had my 3ds on sleep mode for the past 7 hours now and it's still @ full charge

so it doesn't seem like it's being affected that much.

i have a feeling sleep mode is encouraged instead of total shut down like the ps3

and modern pcs.

i do have the 3d, volume and wireless off whenever it's on sleep mode.

bls_essex

I think turning the wireless off in sleep mode will definitely help, but I don't think turning the volume and 3d slider down will do anything. :) In fact, I don't think the 3d slider affects battery life even when the system turned on. From what I understand, the 3d effect is purely mechanical so it doesn't affect battery at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

fool_man_dude

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.

[QUOTE="fool_man_dude"]

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

SnowyPaws

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.

I've heard that, with notebooks anyways, that it is good to completely drain and recharge your battery once in a while. Is this also false?

kirkonacid

I really don't think it matters.

[QUOTE="SnowyPaws"]

[QUOTE="fool_man_dude"]

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

PoisoN_Facecam0

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.

500 charges is not alot when ya think about it.. and 6 month wtf fantasy land do you live in? I clearly stated that any serious gamer would not think that 500 is alot .. it all depends on setting and how much ya play per day in the effect of battery life. but its pointless to sit here and agrue with you since you seem to be mr know it all and live in a fantasy land all your own..

[QUOTE="fool_man_dude"]

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

SnowyPaws

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="SnowyPaws"]

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.

SnowyPaws

500 charges is not alot when ya think about it.. and 6 month wtf fantasy land do you live in? I clearly stated that any serious gamer would not think that 500 is alot .. it all depends on setting and how much ya play per day in the effect of battery life. but its pointless to sit here and agrue with you since you seem to be mr know it all and live in a fantasy land all your own..

6 months are less than 200 days, with that you can charge it 2,5 times a day which equals to 7,5 hours a game if you play with everything maxed. If you really spent so much time only with your 3DS I feel really bad for you. But who cares, after that the max. charge just goes down extremly slowly, it's not like the battery breaks or anything. And even if, a *serious* gamer (what you aren't if you just play one system btw ;D) feels fine paying some money for a better battery with 3600 mAh which'll probably release within this 6 months from 3rd party companies

all i can say is *rotflmao*

500 charges is not alot when ya think about it.SnowyPaws

Remember, that rating refers to 500 full cycles. One full charge and one full discharge is a full cycle. Running a battery down to 50% and then charging it back up is 1/2 of a cycle. Running it down to 25% and then charging it back up is 1/4 of a cycle. You get the idea.

And once you hit that 500 cycle threshhold, the battery doesn't suddenly stop working, the capacity just diminishes slightly. For most people, that won't happen for a few years.

[QUOTE="fool_man_dude"]

The ,anual states that the battery has approx 500 charges, and the battery life will start to drop.

SnowyPaws

Ok to me this just seems rather dumb (not you, the battery statement/issue ) I mean whom in their right mind is going to put a battery in a "gaming" device that only last for around 500 charges and then goes blam.?. I mean seriously the average serious gamer can go through that many charges in less then 2 months time, which in turn would cause said person to be buying a new battery every few months (ok i can now see greedy money hungry companies being ok with this idea.) I dunno to me it just doesn't seem right IMO.

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and BAT hun umm if ya have your wifi turned off during sleep mode of the 3ds doesnt that affect the street pass feature and make it not work? Aren't we meant to keep that feature on at all times? I dunno this is all new to me so i'm still a bit loopy about what it all means.