Does anyone else just want a Gameboy Advance 2?

When DS first came out I wondered, "Is that screen really necessary?" Fastforward six/seven years. The DS has some of my favorite games ever and I consider it a very important part of my gaming life. Do I still think the second/touch screen is useless? You bet I do!

So far the games I have played I mostly use the normal button controls (Pokemon, Pheonix Wright, blah). When they force me to use the stylus I moan, pull out the stylus, reorient myself on my chair, couch, bed, and think about how much nicer it would be if they just had a godamn analog stick. Often times if I can forgo the stylus and just use my thumbs, and it's actually quite nice. But generally the dual screen and stylus are just big letdowns.

That brings me to my main argument, why do console developers force these gimmicky controls on us. Sometimes it works, I'll admit. Nintendo Wii obviously worked most of the time. But with PSP2 and 3DS coming out, you can't help but feel terrified that you have to pay for these pointless controls that developers stuffed in there just because they thought climbing a vine would be cool with a back touch panel. No, it's not. It conflicts with the normal controls and ultimately pulls me out the game until I get off the vine, then tosses me back in. All this for what? Climbing a vine. Nothing much else it can do (wait, I forgot you can make hills and roll things). Pretty much the only new controls from PSP 2 I like are the right analog stick, gyroscope, and froint touch screen (oh hey R2 and L2 buttons, long time no see! Wait, you're not coming on the PSP2? Huh...).

Now that Nintendo has revealed the 3DS, I feel pretty cheated. I never cared about 3D, and I probably never will. Now included with my useless second screen and stylus, I get to pay premium for 3D, just to play console exclusive I know I'll want to pay. I'm hoping later on they realize "Wow, no one's buying this expensive piece of crap" and release a cheaper 2D version, but who knows, I'm willing to bet there are enough Nintendo fanboys who buy it, maybe I'll even buy it (damn you amazing launch lineup). It'll never happen but in the end, I just wish there was a Gameboy Advance 2 with dual analog sticks and a touchscreen, sporting my favorite Nintendo titles and the awesome "Gameboy" name that raised me as a child.

So you don't want innovation in gaming?

You just want to play the same sort of games merely getting flashier as the years go by and never expanding past that in any meaningful way?

Sounds horrific to me.

id prefer a portable console about as big as a 2 xboxs with a generator or sumthing so i could play games as good a quality as farcry 2 or something

id prefer a portable console about as big as a 2 xboxs with a generator or sumthing so i could play games as good a quality as farcry 2 or something

Mitchell_1797

I like having two screens. You can have the map on one screen with the action on another. Or you can have an inventory screen on the touch screen where you can poke around with your stylus instead of some clunky menu. Also, I can't imagine how a game like Big Bang Mini would work without two screens and a touch screen.

In other words the OP wants the Sony answer to innovation, which is basically increasing the raw processing power without doing anything else even remotely interesting (or that hasn't already been done better by the competition). No thank you.dzimm

You forgot not making games for it.

But on topic if not for the touch screen the DS would have been a virtual boy.

I personally am fine with the touch screen. It is optional to use. Only developers decide how to make their software.

id prefer a portable console about as big as a 2 xboxs with a generator or sumthing so i could play games as good a quality as farcry 2 or something

Mitchell_1797

its portable if it can fit in your car

I'm hoping later on they realize "Wow, no one's buying this expensive piece of crap"

theshonen8899

Fat chance of that happening, brother. This thing is going to sell like hotcakes.

No I don't. I got into portable gaming mostly because of the ds. Never was in to portable gaming because the games were not in 3d. I like 2d games but the minute I played mario in 3d for the first time, that changed everything. I as amazed by it. And since I has a kid I really did not want to go back to 2d games. So I got the N64 and then the gamecube. Not worry about handhelds. My brother got a gbasp when it came. I liked it but not to the point of getting one. Then the ds was announced. Not allow did it have dual screens but it had 3d gaming. I bought it and now it is one of my favorite systems. Sure some developers like to use the touch screen for useless gimmickry but others really make good use of it. Some games I think really use it best are zelda games, the world ends with you, warioware diy, jump ultimate stars, and mario vs. donkey kong just to name a few. And with the 3ds things get a little more better. I know some people don't like 3d but I do. When I saw avator that was my first 3d movie. It made my eyes a little uncomfortable at first but it was good. Then I saw toy story 3 and knew 3d is not just a gimmick but a way to make the world you are looking at in that screen seem more real, even though it is not. The 3ds looks to take games to another level. If you want to play just a pure game machine now though just play the gba, but I like my dual screens and definitely would not go back to one screen (unless I am playing a console game or psp).

its portable if it can fit in your car

Mitchell_1797

No, I don't want Nintendo to be everyone else

DS is the GBA 2, just by a different name

Dropping the stereotypical name "Game Boy" in the 21st Century was a great idea

Even if they hadn't called it DS (developers system) it still would've ended up being a GB with two screens.

Nothing will change that. I love the touch screen, I loved the DS design, and I look forward to seeing the 3DS for years to come

I thought "DS" stood for "Dual Screen". The logo is even representative of the dual screen setup.dzimm

It has Dual meanings.

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I'm hoping later on they realize "Wow, no one's buying this expensive piece of crap"

Euaggelistes

Fat chance of that happening, brother. This thing is going to sell like hotcakes.

They even sold out all the preorders in Japan. The world is not far off either.

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its portable if it can fit in your car

BrunoBRS

More like:

If you can bring it onto a public bus and out again without getting stopped

why you afraid of change bro?

embrace it.

no I want a 3DS gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!!

And in addition I want Metroid Prime on my 3DS.

with 3D effects :)

with 3D effects :)

ZachMasta

No, I am personally Glad nintendo isnt like Microsoft or sony where they keep the systems name and just add a number to it (not counting the N64, which was because its games were in 64 bit).

no i want a gamecube port of metroid prime on 3ds!!! i think they should incorporate the controls from prime into other similar games for the 3DS. where you move samus and the camera with the left thumb stick, then hold R to strafe. itd work really well on the system as well as with the circle pad

I couldn't disagree more, I'm a huge fan of the touch screen. It's annoying in some games, but in other stuff like Nintendogs, Advance Wars (though admittedly I play a mix of touch screen and traditional on that game), Ninjatown, Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan, The World Ends With You, Mario vs Donkey Kong and god knows how many others it plays really well.

Even for non-touch games, the 2nd screen is great for menu or map stuff, so personally I'd hate to lose it.

If they didn't have the bottom screen they would be like everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I'm buying NGP, it's just Nintendo does things their way and it works.

Yeah, 2 screens are good. I like the touch screen, and going back to one screen would just be lame.

OP has a point. You can have innovation in video games, but is it really going to enough use to justify its inclusion into the console? Touch screen is pointless, maybe good enough for the DS but should've been dropped for the 3DS

I like the second screen. It's very useful for maps, inventory management. Touch controls are easier with some games than standard controls. I also can't imagine Big Bang Mini working without a touch screen (and or two screens).

Touch screen is pointless...

ozspark

Really not sure how you arrived at that conclussion.

I see where you are coming from, but I really enjoy having the second screen for inventory, unit control, etc. And in addition, I love the touch capabilities for when the use of a keyboard is necessary in a game because typing is much faster when you can actually just make contact with the letter key.

That being said, I am happy to have the second screen and touch capabilites despite the fact that, given the choice, I always choose button control over stylus control.

I feel the same as TC.

Not needed doesn't mean it isn't nice. I like some games with touchscreen or 3d. I like the innovation.

You'r right though. A new Gameboy Advance or whatever with 2 analog sticks and a only 1 (HD?, or touch screen) screen would be nice. Maybe in the future.

As you can see with PS Vita, 1 screen and touch can work perfectly together.

Yeah but are you willing to pay a ton more just to not use a menu and have it in front of you.KONNER123