Do you think that 2D will make a comeback with the Wii?

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#1 Dencore
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With the recent major success of SPM, Brain Age Wii *in Japan at least*/moderate success of Trauma Center: Second Opinion, and 3.3 million sold on the VC.

Plus the 27 titles announced with a rumoured Yoshi's Island Wii.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/mario-party-23-confirmed/124-nintendo-wii--ds-games-in-the-works-255997.php 

And the Wii's for small developers apporoach.

Do you think that 2D will make a comeback on the Wii? *Example: Like 20% of the games on the Wii would be 2D and 80% would be 3D*

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#2 LINKloco
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No, I don't think so.
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#3 reggie186
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I don't think so either.
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#4 mugman6
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Don't think so though I would like it. Viewtiful Joe is a brilliant example of modern day 2d gaming done right.
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#5 T3h1337Pwnz
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i think it already has
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i think it already hasT3h1337Pwnz

Explain, please.

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#7 T3h1337Pwnz
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[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]i think it already hasreggie186

Explain, please.

spm is somewhat 2d 

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#8 reggie186
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[QUOTE="reggie186"]

[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]i think it already hasT3h1337Pwnz

Explain, please.

spm is somewhat 2d 

But, in your eyes, do you think one game is a "comeback"?

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#9 T3h1337Pwnz
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[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"][QUOTE="reggie186"]

[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]i think it already hasreggie186

Explain, please.

spm is somewhat 2d

But, in your eyes, do you think one game is a "comeback"?

pretty much 

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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"][QUOTE="reggie186"]

[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]i think it already hasT3h1337Pwnz

Explain, please.

spm is somewhat 2d

But, in your eyes, do you think one game is a "comeback"?

pretty much 

In my mind, to be warranted as a "comeback" we will need to start seeing more and more 2D games throughout the future. One or two just doesn't do it IMO.

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[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"][QUOTE="reggie186"]

[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]i think it already hasreggie186

Explain, please.

spm is somewhat 2d

But, in your eyes, do you think one game is a "comeback"?

pretty much

In my mind, to be warranted as a "comeback" we will need to start seeing more and more 2D games throughout the future. One or two just doesn't do it IMO.

pokemon battle revolution 2D

wario ware: 2D lolz best games ever 

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#12 reggie186
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Battle Revolution is NOT 2D, and neither are most of WarioWare's micro-games.
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#13 grafkhun
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i hope so... i miss the good ol' side scrollers... want more shooters like contra and gunstar heroes and metal slug.
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#14 tobenator
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No, it won't.  But I'm glad to see some devs showing that gameplay>graphics. 
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As far as consoles go?  No, 2D will never surpass the ammount of 3D games that are produced.  As far as handhelds go?  I think there already are more 2D games being made on the DS than 3D.
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#16 Dencore
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Well I guess 20% is kind of high. How about a few here and there. like 10%?
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#17 Dencore
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As far as consoles go? No, 2D will never surpass the ammount of 3D games that are produced. As far as handhelds go? I think there already are more 2D games being made on the DS than 3D.jbrittain

 I don't mean "surpass" I mean a good amount like 1 out of 15 games being 2D.

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#18 Jaysonguy
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It's already made a comeback.

I consider a comeback to be a game that is known in the general public and so far the Wii has delivered. In a lot of ways the 2D game never went away. Look at Super Paper Mario and then Metal Slug on the Wii and early on you see that no only can the Wii sell copies of these games but they become well known in the general consensus of gamers. 

There's going to be even more titles once the Virtual Console starts adding in newly made titles. There you'll see a large chunk of 2D games. You already see them now on places like Wiicade.com, soon they'll be even better titles available to download.

The Wii and the Virtual Console will usher in a new generation of 2D games and I wouldn't be shocked if a series like Viewtiful Joe comes back also once they see there's a viable audience for the games.

Lastly the Wii attracts all kinds of people including people who aren't gamers. The last time they played a game it WAS 2D, updated 2D games would appeal to those people.

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YES!! Prolly through digital distribution, most likely  the Wii shop channel. I think games like sonic, Castlevania and Megaman and many other that could not trancesd from 2d to 3d but were extremely good games  would do extremely Well If they continued the 2-d series on the Wii..Especially since its cheap to produce on and they can create AAA titles fast and effectively for the company to rake iin money. I personally don't know why dev felt some franchises had to be pushed to 3d and until they can successfuly do tha they should continue to make it a 2d game.

 

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YES!! Prolly through digital distribution, most likely the Wii shop channel. I think games like sonic, Castlevania and Megaman and many other that could not trancesd from 2d to 3d but were extremely good games would do extremely Well If they continued the 2-d series on the Wii..Especially since its cheap to produce on and they can create AAA titles fast and effectively for the company to rake iin money. I personally don't know why dev felt some franchises had to be pushed to 3d and until they can successfuly do tha they should continue to make it a 2d game.

 

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The reason most devs pushed for 3D is because well look at SONY's and Microsoft's stances. Great realism, physics, A.I., bigger worlds, these are things that 2D and other genres don't fit into so they're getting shoved over. *this is also why gaming is getting REAL stale because only the genres that can put that to work are popular, mostly shooters*

Anyway I disagree the digital distribution is the only way. Retail for 2D has proven to work fine with Super Paper Mario, Trauma Center, and many DS titles. IMHO *and not attacking you but* not putting them at retail is kind of insulting them, as if saying "It's a 2D game so it's not as good or have as much depth as a 3D game so it shouldn't be at retail". 

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#21 BET8390
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Disgital distrition may not be the only way, but it is more profitable for a developer thus the developers would most likely chose it. If they put it through retail they are limiting their profit because  everybody in the process of making the item has to profit too WHICH IS WHY most devs avoid publishers...By digital distribution they can avoid the retail, the publishers and bring the media directly to the consumer...ofcourse they're gonna have to pay nintendo or any other console manuefacturer but they are gonna have to do that anyway with regular distribution..So Good for the Devs and good for us..don't see a problem wih that
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Disgital distrition may not be the only way, but it is more profitable for a developer thus the developers would most likely chose it. If they put it through retail they are limiting their profit because everybody in the process of making the item has to profit too WHICH IS WHY most devs avoid publishers...By digital distribution they can avoid the retail, the publishers and bring the media directly to the consumer...ofcourse they're gonna have to pay nintendo or any other console manuefacturer but they are gonna have to do that anyway with regular distribution..So Good for the Devs and good for us..don't see a problem wih thatBET8390

Well then everything should be digital distribution then correct?

I was refering to the bigger games like Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Viewtiful Joe, Odin Sphere, and Yoshi's Island. Games that can't be avalible for download due to the fact that they're too big, you know what I mean.

 

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#23 BET8390
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yeah..Somehow I realized we were thinking of different things when You started talking about SPM..but yeah..I'm talking about the revivalof the classics..Great small games..Maybe sequels to games like Catlevania SoTN or The old megaman series..Heck I'd even enjoy new 2d sonic.
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#24 Dencore
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^^^^I'd much rather have them take the Wii's horsepower and take 2D by the horns. I mean look what devs did with the DS, imagine what they could do on the Wii with the extra horse power, multiplayer, and controllers *both Wii Remote and Classic*
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#25 T3h1337Pwnz
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Battle Revolution is NOT 2D, and neither are most of WarioWare's micro-games.reggie186

i was making a joke =/ 

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[QUOTE="reggie186"]Battle Revolution is NOT 2D, and neither are most of WarioWare's micro-games.T3h1337Pwnz

i was making a joke =/ 

Oh sorry. Sarcasm is hard to catch over the internet.

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#27 T3h1337Pwnz
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[QUOTE="T3h1337Pwnz"]

[QUOTE="reggie186"]Battle Revolution is NOT 2D, and neither are most of WarioWare's micro-games.reggie186

i was making a joke =/

Oh sorry. Sarcasm is hard to catch over the internet.

quoted for truth =/

i dont enjoy sarcasm 

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will it make a comeback on nintendo systems?

yes

Will it make a comeback on PS3 and XBOX360?

no

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#29 Dencore
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Would everyone also post how much of a "comeback" they think they would make if they did. Thank you. :)
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#30 cobrax80
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They are releasing a remake of impossibe mission on the shop channel so it's pretty good news for 2D games.
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Any others?
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