Zelda vs Okami

Well Okami is the first of that type of game Ive ever played and enjoying it so far, have I ruined the Zelda games or are they better in ther own ways? Whats the current opinion on the two franchises now that the fanboy wars have settled (at least a bit...).

I don't like the ZELDA series at all.

As for OKAMI, it was a beautiful and very enjoyable game when it came out for the PS2.

I love Zelda, but I absolutely hated Okami. Everything from the artstyle to the combat, I thought it sucked. That's just me though, so try out both and see for yourself.

Okami is better than certain Zelda games,not as good as others. Depends on which game we're comparing Okami to.  For instance, IMO Okami> A Link to the Past (raises flame shield).  However, Majora's Mask or Wind Waker> Okami.  

That being said, I loved the hell out of Okami. I think it is a truly amazing game, and definitely deserves to be played by anyone who just loves greatness.  

Okami has its amazing aspects, but Most Zelda games are better than it.  Okami is more like Skyward Sword tier (though both games have very different issues) and not on the level of OoT, MM, and WW.  

Okami needed better puzzles and less hand holding.  Loved the art, music, and presentation all wrapped up in a solid zelda like game, but not amazing.

I love Okami for what it was, I would love to see another game like this

I can see where people draw similarities between Okami and the Zelda series, however they felt like very different experiences to me when I played Okami versus playing any Zelda game. I definitely would say Zelda is better overall, at least Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. I did enjoy Okami more than Wind Waker though.

Depends which Zelda game you compare Okami to but overall Zelda has had more games and is far superior.

To me nothing compares to the greatness of Zelda games, ever.

I have played every zelda console game up until the Wii game and consider myself to be a fan of the series. But, IMO, Okami out zelda'ed every zelda game. -much larger world and bigger story -better characters -more charm -better combat rawsavon

And a wolf-god is a much more compelling central character than Gary green hat.

I love Okami for what it was, I would love to see another game like this

benleslie5

Okamiden was released on DS. Nowheere near as good as Okami, but still really good and worth playing.

Okami is a beautiful game, no doubt. But there's just no comparison to a series as high-quality and as long-running as Zelda. Nearly every single Zelda games (excludng the CD-i, of course) is a masterpiece. And there's a bunch of them.

I think Okami is much more unique, at least now it is, but it's difficult to argue with a video game that's followed the same formula(more or less) for 20 years and is still successful.

1 game vs a legacy franchise? kind of ridiculous dont you think?

I love Zelda, but I absolutely hated Okami. Everything from the artstyle to the combat, I thought it sucked. That's just me though, so try out both and see for yourself.

Renegade_Fury

Love both, can't really decide which one's better!

I have no idea why people like Okami's combat, or how they can say it has better puzzles.  Zelda is far superior.  

I have no idea why people like Okami's combat, or how they can say it has better puzzles. Zelda is far superior.

NaveedLife

I think you said before that Zelda is pretty much superior in every way that matters most, and you're right. Okami has its place for what it does, Zelda is better overall.

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I have no idea why people like Okami's combat, or how they can say it has better puzzles. Zelda is far superior.

Blueresident87

I think you said before that Zelda is pretty much superior in every way that matters most, and you're right. Okami has its place for what it does, Zelda is better overall.

I personally think that Okami has a better overworld design than many Zeldas... It was a very fun game to explore.  Only a few Zeldas compete with it, like MM and WW.

Not saying Okami is better though, just in that way.

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I have no idea why people like Okami's combat, or how they can say it has better puzzles. Zelda is far superior.

turtlethetaffer

I think you said before that Zelda is pretty much superior in every way that matters most, and you're right. Okami has its place for what it does, Zelda is better overall.

I personally think that Okami has a better overworld design than many Zeldas... It was a very fun game to explore. Only a few Zeldas compete with it, like MM and WW.

Not saying Okami is better though, just in that way.

Agreed that Okami does have better overworld design, but I don't find that the poor design of most worlds in Zelda hurts the games that much. A Link to The Past has the best overworld design of any Zelda game for me, along with MM and WW like you said. But even other Zelda games that lack in this department provide a solid 'Zelda' experience.

Interesting responses from everyone. Im currently on the final boss and Ive enjoyed the game mainly for the mood it creates and the steady unlocking of abilities that make revisiting older sections an enjoyable activity. Its dungeons and puzzles are really basic though, and there are only a few but they help to break up the game and are not the focus. Its also a pretty simple game, how do the Zeldas compare in that regard?GulliversTravel

The dungeons in the Zelda games are far more complex overall than anything you'll find in Okami. The puzzles are a main focus of the Zelda games.

At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, how are the two franchises comparable?

At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, how are the two franchises comparable?

Business_Fun

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At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, how are the two franchises comparable?

Dudersaper

And the answer was staring me in the face :( Complete idiot it is, then.

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I think you said before that Zelda is pretty much superior in every way that matters most, and you're right. Okami has its place for what it does, Zelda is better overall.

Blueresident87

I personally think that Okami has a better overworld design than many Zeldas... It was a very fun game to explore. Only a few Zeldas compete with it, like MM and WW.

Not saying Okami is better though, just in that way.

Agreed that Okami does have better overworld design, but I don't find that the poor design of most worlds in Zelda hurts the games that much. A Link to The Past has the best overworld design of any Zelda game for me, along with MM and WW like you said. But even other Zelda games that lack in this department provide a solid 'Zelda' experience.

Oh totally I didn't mean to say the world designs in Zelda games are bad. Just that I think Okami got the feel of it down better than many Zelda games.

The reason I love MM and WW's worlds so much is because they actually feel like adventurous worlds.  MM is dripping with atmosphere, so there's always something cool to see or something to find.  WW just has a grand sense of advanture, of sailing toe ocean blue and really discovering new things. It's awesome.

IMO ALttP overworld is just all right, I think the game as a whole is kinda overrated. That being said, it's still one of the btter Zelda games, and definitely one of the all time greats. I just don't think it's as godly as some people say.

Okami> A Link to the Past turtlethetaffer

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Okami> A Link to the Past YoshiYogurt

Like I said, flame shield raised. I don't really think ALttP is as godly as some people say. Is it a great game? Absoultely, one of the best. But I don't think it's God tier.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Okami> A Link to the Past turtlethetaffer

Like I said, flame shield raised. I don't really think ALttP is as godly as some people say. Is it a great game? Absoultely, one of the best. But I don't think it's God tier.

I think I have plenty of nostalgia that clouds my judgement of ALttP, in fact I know I do. I haven't played the game in a very long time. But I do remember the overworld being full of mystery and I remember it being interesting in a way that I wanted to explore it just as much as I wanted to conquer the dungeons. I don't think I've felt that for any other Zelda game save MM. As you said, MM has a tremendous overworld.

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] I usually like your posts but this is just laughable. Anyway, Okami is an pretty fun.Blueresident87

Like I said, flame shield raised. I don't really think ALttP is as godly as some people say. Is it a great game? Absoultely, one of the best. But I don't think it's God tier.

I think I have plenty of nostalgia that clouds my judgement of ALttP, in fact I know I do. I haven't played the game in a very long time. But I do remember the overworld being full of mystery and I remember it being interesting in a way that I wanted to explore it just as much as I wanted to conquer the dungeons. I don't think I've felt that for any other Zelda game save MM. As you said, MM has a tremendous overworld.

Very true. But the same holds true for the original Legend of Zelda, IMO. I bombed, flamed, and rocked-pushed the hell out of that overworld looking for secrets.

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] I usually like your posts but this is just laughable. Anyway, Okami is an pretty fun.Blueresident87

Like I said, flame shield raised. I don't really think ALttP is as godly as some people say. Is it a great game? Absoultely, one of the best. But I don't think it's God tier.

I think I have plenty of nostalgia that clouds my judgement of ALttP, in fact I know I do. I haven't played the game in a very long time. But I do remember the overworld being full of mystery and I remember it being interesting in a way that I wanted to explore it just as much as I wanted to conquer the dungeons. I don't think I've felt that for any other Zelda game save MM. As you said, MM has a tremendous overworld.

Again, I'm not bashing ALttP in any way. I beat it a few years ago and it really is still a fantastic game. I just think Okami is better, that's all.  I liked the atmosphere, story and exploratory elements better, although ALttP had much better dungeon design.

From what I think, I'd say that Okami is more about the world and Zelda tends to be more about the dungeons. Not always, but a lot of the time.

And I think Wind Waker also had one of the better overworlds in the series.  It had a fantastic feeling of adventure. It just made you want to hop in the boat and set course for uncharted islands. (I thought the sailing wasn't bad, I liked the anticipation and found it relaxing.)  Although MM has quite possibly the best atmosphere in any game ever, WW is a close contender for one of the best overworlds in gaming.