What happened to good games?

I sit here regularly to read any interesting topic around the forums. I noticed that most people seem to care about what console has better games or graphics.

In my opinion, none of this generation of consoles has any good game. Why?, simple. The games lack lots of content. I don't know how many people remeber the game Skys of Arcadia (for Gamecube) but that was a good game (not the best but was fun). I miss games that had like 40 hours of game or more. Now they come with less than 25 (take Resistance 2 for example, I finished the campaing the day after I bought it, I felt like I threw my money away). Now all game developers care about is graphics and cutscenes (FF13 for example, looks more like FF: Advent Children than a game and MGS4) and less of those little secrets people liked to take that extra time to find in the games.

I would like to see the opinions you would like to give on this topic. Thanks!

Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.BladesOfAthena

Must have extreme nostalgia. If you don't like the games, don't play them. I don't care if you miss out on these amazing games.

Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.BladesOfAthena

Actually...they did :P.

Although games like Resistance might have a short campaign, that's why there is multiplayer. Ever played anything online?klusps

Multiplayer should never be an excuse for lack of content or a short single player campaign. Many raving fanboys complain about Nintendo abandoning the hardcore, but why the hell do they ignore the industry as a whole moving towards multiplayer at the cost of single player? It's OK when the two work together (MMORPG, for example) or when multiplayer is the sole focus of the game (Super Smash Bros), but not when one takes away from the other.

[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.ZZsharpshooter

Must have extreme nostalgia. If you don't like the games, don't play them. I don't care if you miss out on these amazing games.

Not that I don't like them, just that there is not much to do in them.

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[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.Xander818

Must have extreme nostalgia. If you don't like the games, don't play them. I don't care if you miss out on these amazing games.

Not that I don't like them, just that there is not much to do in them.

Play Fallout 3.

[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.ZZsharpshooter

Must have extreme nostalgia. If you don't like the games, don't play them. I don't care if you miss out on these amazing games.

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[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]Yeah, let's forgo technical advancement and go back to outdated 8 bit graphics. I'm sure everyone would love that.BladesOfAthena

Must have extreme nostalgia. If you don't like the games, don't play them. I don't care if you miss out on these amazing games.

I was talking about the OP.

I was talking about the OP.

ZZsharpshooter

I think there are a lot of good games in this generation. I suggest you try Bioshock, Fallout 3, COD4, TLOZ, GTA4, Mario Galaxy. After doing that, i guess you won´t be saying the same.

I love Skies of arcadia, but maybe you are being romantic, and nostalgia is a bit of a trap to memories and feelings.

Maybe YOU changed, and not the games. There is content, good gameplay AND great graphics. There are less risk, of course, because games cost a lot of money and no one wants to lose the investment, but it´s not like the movies or music yet, and we can find original games once in a while. God, movies and music are a disaster lately, no wonder why games are becoming more popular. Let´s enjoy them while we can.

[QUOTE="klusps"]Although games like Resistance might have a short campaign, that's why there is multiplayer. Ever played anything online?Video_Game_King

Multiplayer should never be an excuse for lack of content or a short single player campaign. Many raving fanboys complain about Nintendo abandoning the hardcore, but why the hell do they ignore the industry as a whole moving towards multiplayer at the cost of single player? It's OK when the two work together (MMORPG, for example) or when multiplayer is the sole focus of the game (Super Smash Bros), but not when one takes away from the other.

What the heck at are you talking about, accesories, consoles and games are just getting better.

Its just the start of a new generation of gaming. It wont be long before we see virtual reality

consoles hitting the shelves of www.game.com .

As far as I am concerned, gaming is still very fun and still good. Some of the games of today do match the greatness of games from before, but what past games have that current ones don't is nolstalgia, and many people will probably consier older games the best because that is what they grew up with and have special feelings or memories of, and this of course is not current gaming's fault.

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[QUOTE="klusps"]Although games like Resistance might have a short campaign, that's why there is multiplayer. Ever played anything online?Canvas_Of_Flesh

Multiplayer should never be an excuse for lack of content or a short single player campaign. Many raving fanboys complain about Nintendo abandoning the hardcore, but why the hell do they ignore the industry as a whole moving towards multiplayer at the cost of single player? It's OK when the two work together (MMORPG, for example) or when multiplayer is the sole focus of the game (Super Smash Bros), but not when one takes away from the other.

I sit here regularly to read any interesting topic around the forums. I noticed that most people seem to care about what console has better games or graphics.

In my opinion, none of this generation of consoles has any good game. Why?, simple. The games lack lots of content. I don't know how many people remeber the game Skys of Arcadia (for Gamecube) but that was a good game (not the best but was fun). I miss games that had like 40 hours of game or more. Now they come with less than 25 (take Resistance 2 for example, I finished the campaing the day after I bought it, I felt like I threw my money away). Now all game developers care about is graphics and cutscenes (FF13 for example, looks more like FF: Advent Children than a game and MGS4) and less of those little secrets people liked to take that extra time to find in the games.

I would like to see the opinions you would like to give on this topic. Thanks!

Xander818

First Person Shooters are always going to be relatively short. The always have been. They're like the blockbuster movies of video games. Big, dumb, fun.

If you want a current gen game that will run you more than 25 hours, play Zelda, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Mass Effect, and almost every RPG ever made this gen.

Also: Play more multiplayer.

I sit here regularly to read any interesting topic around the forums. I noticed that most people seem to care about what console has better games or graphics.

In my opinion, none of this generation of consoles has any good game. Why?, simple. The games lack lots of content. I don't know how many people remeber the game Skys of Arcadia (for Gamecube) but that was a good game (not the best but was fun). I miss games that had like 40 hours of game or more. Now they come with less than 25 (take Resistance 2 for example, I finished the campaing the day after I bought it, I felt like I threw my money away). Now all game developers care about is graphics and cutscenes (FF13 for example, looks more like FF: Advent Children than a game and MGS4) and less of those little secrets people liked to take that extra time to find in the games.

I would like to see the opinions you would like to give on this topic. Thanks!

Xander818

You clearly wouldn't recognize a good game if it punched you in the face. Skies of Arkadia would have to be radically improved (the improvement the GC version saw wasn't enough) to work its way up to garbage. There were random encouters with every step, a boring combat system and a story that was horribly cliched even by the low standards of jrpgs. Stop posting nonsense and go play whatever trash you confuse with quality.

I honestly feel like this too sometimes ... but I know for sure that its just me getting older and being much harder to please. Back in the day I could play repetitive games and be super happy and I enjoyed them so much and thought they were so varied with so much content. I still remember then that way ... but you know I went back and played some of them .. and low and behold they felt just as empty as modern games (often more so).

I have accepted the fact that I will rarely be able to immerse myself in games like I used to. My carefree gaming days are over ... but I still love games! A lot. To say the least. Just something of my child/teenage obsession with them has faded. And a good thing too coz I was a true addict. Now its just a not quite health (but almost) interest.

As far as I am concerned, gaming is still very fun and still good. Some of the games of today do match the greatness of games from before, but what past games have that current ones don't is nolstalgia, and many people will probably consier older games the best because that is what they grew up with and have special feelings or memories of, and this of course is not current gaming's fault.

DJ-Lafleur

old games are also designed differently and look and feel different, because they're made on older systems and they were in another era. people don't go back to super metroid simply because of nostalgia; they go back because it was a really good design and metroid fusion was a different experience. it's partly nostalgia, but also because they were different games.

Play Fallout 3.

My thoughts exactly. It took me about 60 hours to finish fallout 3 and I only uncovered *maybe* 30% of the map. I would imagine it would take hundreds of hours to actually explore the entire map and do all of the side missions. Not only is it an incredibly long game, but it's also an incredibly good game as well.

Mass Effect is also a great game, and although it's not as long as fallout 3, it has the potential to be pretty long.

I've been gaming ever since the Atari 2600 days and I think the games today are better then they've ever been. These past few years we've been literally bombarded with good games, I can't turn around without bumping into one.Archangel3371

I don't know, I sympathize - there are a lot of games that could use more indepth plots - so many of the games out that boast long hours are completely sidequest driven.

Couple people here said Fallout 3 - yeah, it was great but the main story was only what ... 10-15 hours tops? Personally I could have done with 10-20 less hours of sidequests if that time would have been weaved into a more intricate main story.

Also, you look at non-RPG titles like Gears and even GoW - fantastic games, but pretty light on the story and splitting them up into multiple games doesn't help, either. I mean, what do we really know? Marcus has issues with his dad and Dom misses his chick?

I love graphics and badass gameplay same as any other dude, but, and I think lots of folks would agree, the story is the glue that really holds things together. If there's a fantastic story, that launches a game from adequate or good to great.

theyve all gone the way of "achievements" and believe that is replay value. No..resident evil 4 had replay value.... not (any variety of 360 game here) and their ...play whole game with just pistol....achievement... Thats not replay value or content. Thats an excuse to save money. Its like the term customer service. Its just an idea brought up from the companies but they arent putting in anymore money to have you go to their store. They just say CUSTOMER SERVICE and....well thats that.sharpshooter188