Streets of Rage : SEGA

Here's a series I hope stays as it is, on the Mega Drive! I've noticed that games like Golden Axe and Street Fighter (to name a few) have made the transition up, on to today's more modern consoles. Though I've been less then impressed in all honesty. Of course there's always room for polishing with most games but Streets of Rage I just wish stays as what it is STREETS OF RAGE. If a developer does come around to create a more modern game of Streets of Rage for todays consoles, I should hope they leave the principles of what the game was.

What do you think? Should they leave Streets of Rage as it is, or would you like to see a remake for today's consoles, but sticking to the Streets of Rage principles without drastically changing it?

There is a fan made streets of rage game being made as we speak. I think it will be released soon, and its it's shaping up to be fantastic. It's truly epic what the guys have put into it.

Any fan of streets or rage or beat em ups should check it out.

http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_project/

they cant put a new SoR on the new consoles because of womens rights. you can beat up a hooker but now you cant

they cant put a new SoR on the new consoles because of womens rights. you can beat up a hooker but now you cant

bigM10231

:lol: ahahahahahah

If they could make it good, I'd like to see it. If not, it's better off left alone. Of course, that pretty much applies to everything, I suppose.

they cant put a new SoR on the new consoles because of womens rights. you can beat up a hooker but now you cant

bigM10231

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they cant put a new SoR on the new consoles because of womens rights. you can beat up a hooker but now you cant

Panzer_Zwei

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they cant put a new SoR on the new consoles because of womens rights. you can beat up a hooker but now you cant

Darkman2007

For example in Bare Knuckle III you could fight a gay boss called ASH. You could even input a code to play as him.

The character's colour's were also changed to be more "gender neutral".

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]The games were already censored back then in comparison to the original Japanese versions.

Panzer_Zwei

For example in Bare Knuckle III you could fight a gay boss called ASH. You could even input a code to play as him.

The character's colour's were also changed to be more "gender neutral".

You would think with most peoples attitudes these days that they would be all for beating up a gay boss.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Im wondering, what kind of changes were made? other then the title obviouslyDarkman2007

For example in Bare Knuckle III you could fight a gay boss called ASH. You could even input a code to play as him.

The character's colour's were also changed to be more "gender neutral".

Even Final Fight CD was censored. The Japanese version is pretty much arcade perfect as far as content goes. The western versions however, doesn't show Jessica on her underwear at the intro, and the skimpy dressed female enemies wear longer clothes.

considering Nintendo took out simple religious references in games, I wasn't too surprised every company was doing similar things.

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For example in Bare Knuckle III you could fight a gay boss called ASH. You could even input a code to play as him.

The character's colour's were also changed to be more "gender neutral".

Panzer_Zwei

Even Final Fight CD was censored. The Japanese version is pretty much arcade perfect as far as content goes. The western versions however, doesn't show Jessica on her underwear at the intro, and the skimpy dressed female enemies wear longer clothes.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] censorship was quite common back then sadly, though I have a feeling that even today those kind of things would be censored, or given a high age rating.Darkman2007

Even Final Fight CD was censored. The Japanese version is pretty much arcade perfect as far as content goes. The western versions however, doesn't show Jessica on her underwear at the intro, and the skimpy dressed female enemies wear longer clothes.

Some of the companies that became very popular like Nihon Falcom, ENIX, SQUARE etc. they all dabbled in eroge. ENIX in particular did a few very poor taste erotic games.

And here I thought everyone in Japan loved their sex games. Aha

Ahhh Streets of Rage =D Streets of Rage II was the first Genesis game I ever played. I had the Genesis that came with it. I would be down for a modern remake, but I'd like it to stay 2D. That fan remake looks crazy though! 112 stages? 18 playable characters?

I actually had bare knuckle 3 when I was a kid, even though I'm British. Ican't remember how I got it, but we had the adapter you put the cartridge into to play on pal megadrives. The only problem we couldn't understand what the story was about. I remember hearing that the story of bare knuckle 3 and Streets of Rage 3 were very different, even though they were the same game.

It was a shame Ash the cross dresser (lol) was removed. It was a much cooler boss fight than shiva. If I remember correctly you can go into the streets of rage 3 sound options and Ash is still in there.

Talking about censorship, recently I was playing bare knuckle 2 and noticed when playing as blaze (usual max and axel obviously!) if you do the jumping kick attack, you can see her white underwear, and not just a shadow. Also, when you finally get to Mr X he's smoking a cigar.

I actually had bare knuckle 3 when I was a kid, even though I'm British. Ican't remember how I got it, but we had the adapter you put the cartridge into to play on pal megadrives. The only problem we couldn't understand what the story was about. I remember hearing that the story of bare knuckle 3 and Streets of Rage 3 were very different, even though they were the same game.

Franky-the-bat

BK3 was just the Japanese title I'm pretty sure of that, not much was different, to my knowledge. Though I'm not the "Guru" though Panzer might be able to shed some light on this, he's the Japanese Game Guru.

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I actually had bare knuckle 3 when I was a kid, even though I'm British. Ican't remember how I got it, but we had the adapter you put the cartridge into to play on pal megadrives. The only problem we couldn't understand what the story was about. I remember hearing that the story of bare knuckle 3 and Streets of Rage 3 were very different, even though they were the same game.

NorthernRoses

BK3 was just the Japanese title I'm pretty sure of that, not much was different, to my knowledge. Though I'm not the "Guru" though Panzer might be able to shed some light on this, he's the Japanese Game Guru.

I think it was to do with the dialog being very different. Not sure if it was due to bad translation or just the fact they wanted to change the story, so the dialog was changed. It would be interesting to find out.

Censorship isn't all that bad. If its little aesthic things, I have no problem with it. If censorship dramaticallychanges gameplay, why bother porting it? Regardless, I enjoyed playing the American versions thoroughly. A new version would be a tough sell for me. For me to even think about playing it, would mean that it would need to be an open sand-box type game.

I just played the original Streets of Rage on my Genesis last night. How ironic this thread comes up now. Very fun games. I hope this new sequel ends up being good. They already ruined Sonic and Golden Axe. Don't ruin Streets of Rage, too, Sega.Emerald_Warrior

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]I just played the original Streets of Rage on my Genesis last night. How ironic this thread comes up now. Very fun games. I hope this new sequel ends up being good. They already ruined Sonic and Golden Axe. Don't ruin Streets of Rage, too, Sega.Panzer_Zwei

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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]I just played the original Streets of Rage on my Genesis last night. How ironic this thread comes up now. Very fun games. I hope this new sequel ends up being good. They already ruined Sonic and Golden Axe. Don't ruin Streets of Rage, too, Sega.Emerald_Warrior

I didn't say anything about the original post. Read the second post.Emerald_Warrior

As far as I know, there's no sequel coming.

I just played the original Streets of Rage on my Genesis last night. How ironic this thread comes up now. Very fun games. I hope this new sequel ends up being good. They already ruined Sonic and Golden Axe. Don't ruin Streets of Rage, too, Sega.Emerald_Warrior

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]I didn't say anything about the original post. Read the second post.Panzer_Zwei

Alas the Guru has spoken!

To be honest Sonic was ruined long, long, long ago, at least with SoR there's still time for it to be saved. And with any sense no developer will try to "better" it. Sonic is a brand, sought to be exploited and commercialised. SoR is many peoples LIVE'S! especially when it came to slugging it out on the arcade versions. Ah memories.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"] [QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"] [QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]I didn't say anything about the original post. Read the second post.NorthernRoses

Alas the Guru has spoken!

To be honest Sonic was ruined long, long, long ago, at least with SoR there's still time for it to be saved. And with any sense no developer will try to "better" it. Sonic is a brand, sought to be exploited and commercialised. SoR is many peoples LIVE'S! especially when it came to slugging it out on the arcade versions. Ah memories.

Yeah, although Sonic for SEGA is far from being what Mario is to Nintendo. The main SEGA divisions never cared about Sonic really. That's the main differece. The consumer market where Sonic reigned, was only their secondary business.

But in the defence of SEGA, most of their franchises that have been rundown through the mud recently (Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, etc.) weren't developed by them. They were projects of the SEGA western divisions who hired other developing studios to make them, since the real SEGA developers weren't interested.

What do you think? Should they leave Streets of Rage as it is, or would you like to see a remake for today's consoles, but sticking to the Streets of Rage principles without drastically changing it?NorthernRoses

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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]What about it? You mean that fan made hack? That is no sequel, and has nothing to do with SEGA. As far as I know, there's no sequel coming. Panzer_Zwei

Alas the Guru has spoken!

To be honest Sonic was ruined long, long, long ago, at least with SoR there's still time for it to be saved. And with any sense no developer will try to "better" it. Sonic is a brand, sought to be exploited and commercialised. SoR is many peoples LIVE'S! especially when it came to slugging it out on the arcade versions. Ah memories.

Yeah, although Sonic for SEGA is far from being what Mario is to Nintendo. The main SEGA divisions never cared about Sonic really. That's the main differece. The consumer market where Sonic reigned, was only their secondary business.

But in the defence of SEGA, most of their franchises that have been rundown through the mud recently (Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, etc.) weren't developed by them. They were projects of the SEGA western divisions who hired other developing studios to make them, since the real SEGA developers weren't interested.

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Alas the Guru has spoken!

To be honest Sonic was ruined long, long, long ago, at least with SoR there's still time for it to be saved. And with any sense no developer will try to "better" it. Sonic is a brand, sought to be exploited and commercialised. SoR is many peoples LIVE'S! especially when it came to slugging it out on the arcade versions. Ah memories.

Emerald_Warrior

Yeah, although Sonic for SEGA is far from being what Mario is to Nintendo. The main SEGA divisions never cared about Sonic really. That's the main differece. The consumer market where Sonic reigned, was only their secondary business.

But in the defence of SEGA, most of their franchises that have been rundown through the mud recently (Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, etc.) weren't developed by them. They were projects of the SEGA western divisions who hired other developing studios to make them, since the real SEGA developers weren't interested.

Well he is the company mascot and image, just like Pac-Man is the mascot of NAMCO. However, in the case of Nintendo, in a way they were founded around Mario, so he is very tied to their philosophy. This is not the case of SEGA. Without Yu Suzuki and AM2, there never would've been any SEGA consoles in the first place.

Sonic was created in the '90s to compete against Mario, and apparently in a design constest they had. SEGA also spent a whole generation without an official Sonic game. This would be unthinkable in the case of Nintendo.

Nintendo is Mario, but SEGA is not Sonic.

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Yeah, although Sonic for SEGA is far from being what Mario is to Nintendo. The main SEGA divisions never cared about Sonic really. That's the main differece. The consumer market where Sonic reigned, was only their secondary business.

But in the defence of SEGA, most of their franchises that have been rundown through the mud recently (Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, etc.) weren't developed by them. They were projects of the SEGA western divisions who hired other developing studios to make them, since the real SEGA developers weren't interested.

Panzer_Zwei

Well he is the company mascot and image, just like Pac-Man is the mascot of NAMCO. However, in the case of Nintendo, in a way they were founded around Mario, so he is very tied to their philosophy. This is not the case of SEGA. Without Yu Suzuki and AM2, there never would've been any SEGA consoles in the first place.

Sonic was created in the '90s to compete against Mario, and apparently in a design constest they had. SEGA also spent a whole generation without an official Sonic game. This would be unthinkable in the case of Nintendo.

Nintendo is Mario, but SEGA is not Sonic.

I agree with both Panzer and Emerald to an extent. SEGA obviously doesn't care that much about Sonic in the grand scheme of things since they let him become a punchline,but their marketing people still use him anyway because, like it or not, when the average gamer hears the name SEGA, they automatically think of Sonic first. Old school gamers who grew up in arcades think differently, of course, but just about everybody else knows SEGA because of Sonic. The Genesis/Mega Drive was out for awhile before the first Sonic game (Altered Beast was the pack-in title, at least in the States) and nobody really bought it. I've known one person in my entire life that owned a Master System, compared to just about everybody owning an NES, so that shows you how relevant that system was (not knocking it as there were some good games, but I know plenty of people who've never even heard of it).