Sony, I'm sorry! I didn't think you had it in you.

I'm indifferent, as much as I like Sony, why the hell should I pay extra to play online? The social features are great if they are free of charge but why should I be forced to pay for something that I wouldn't be using? Free online play was one of the reason why I picked the ps3 over 360 even when it's more expensive. This is just super lame. hoplayletsplay

I'm indifferent, as much as I like Sony, why the hell should I pay extra to play online? The social features are great if they are free of charge but why should I be forced to pay for something that I wouldn't be using? Free online play was one of the reason why I picked the ps3 over 360 even when it's more expensive. This is just super lame. hoplayletsplay

Losing free stuff sucks, man. But losing the used game market would've been so much worse for any number of reasons.El_Zo1212o

At this point, I'm just grateful for what they're doing. I'll GLADLY pay to play online (on $5 a month) if it means I can still buy used and can play with no restrictions. Plus, PS+ gives you free games. Sony has done great by me today. I loved my 360 and preferred it this gen, but it's all Sony from here on out. MirkoS77

I'm indifferent, as much as I like Sony, why the hell should I pay extra to play online? The social features are great if they are free of charge but why should I be forced to pay for something that I wouldn't be using? Free online play was one of the reason why I picked the ps3 over 360 even when it's more expensive. This is just super lame. hoplayletsplay

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]At this point, I'm just grateful for what they're doing. I'll GLADLY pay to play online (on $5 a month) if it means I can still buy used and can play with no restrictions. Plus, PS+ gives you free games. Sony has done great by me today. I loved my 360 and preferred it this gen, but it's all Sony from here on out. hoplayletsplay

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Losing free stuff sucks, man. But losing the used game market would've been so much worse for any number of reasons.hoplayletsplay

I don't really mind paying $5 a month to play online if it means I get free games to go with it. I am a PS+ subscriber now while it's an optional thing, and I love it. I don't really see how they are screwing us over.

Yeah well I didn't mind it with Xbox Live either, but that's how the hell we ended up here today with the X1. "It's only $5".

It's like they used MS's draconian policies against them to go ahead and add that knowing fans would gladly accept it since the other guy's shit stinks more.

Still left me with a freaking bitter taste in my mouth. Still doesn't make me feel like Sony is a full supporter of being open.

How the hell can I possibly justify paying these companies for a service that we all know is free? I can go download Kaillera and play P2P with a 30ms ping for FREE. It costs nothing and is so simple. For a matchmaking service? That should be a standard free feature of any console manufacturer in 2013. Instead they're both doing this now.

This is how this shit got started on Xbox.

It's like I can't fully embrace Sony either. And I'm not so stupid this time to trust them enough that it won't happen again. The only thing I can get on board with is with it being way better and nowhere near as bad with a cheaper entry price.

SMH.

Anyone else feels like you can't even enjoy the games because of all this?

It took me a while to decide if I wanted PS+, I don't mind paying 5 bucks a month. Plus free games to download. Some of them are even good. A fair trade-off I think.

Yeah well I didn't mind it with Xbox Live either, but that's how the hell we ended up here today with the X1. "It's only $5".

It's like they used MS's draconian policies against them to go ahead and add that knowing fans would gladly accept it since the other guy's shit stinks more.

Still left me with a freaking bitter taste in my mouth. Still doesn't make me feel like Sony is a full supporter of being open.

How the hell can I possibly justify paying these companies for a service that we all know is free? I can go download Kaillera and play P2P with a 30ms ping for FREE. It costs nothing and is so simple. For a matchmaking service? That should be a standard free feature of any console manufacturer in 2013. Instead they're both doing this now.

This is how this shit got started on Xbox.

It's like I can't fully embrace Sony either. And I'm not so stupid this time to trust them enough that it won't happen again. The only thing I can get on board with is with it being way better and nowhere near as bad with a cheaper entry price.

SMH.

Anyone else feels like you can't even enjoy the games because of all this?

alexwatchtower

It took me a while to decide if I wanted PS+, I don't mind paying 5 bucks a month. Plus free games to download. Some of them are even good. A fair trade-off I think.

PandaTrueno86

See? This is exactly what I said. This is exactly what every Xbox fan said. This is how they get us. This.

Ok that's fine. They can have a service that's $5 a month that includes other things. But why the ability to play online??? Why does that part have to be tied to that service? Can't they offer a free, basic service that lets you play your games online, and then if they really have something valuable, charge you $5 a month for it as an addition?

It's the same shit. Same start! Paying to have one of our freedoms stripped from us under the pretense of a good offer. That's truly sick if you think about it!

hoplayletsplay is selfish

Sony is greedy

Pick one, or why not have both? I know too well that offering me basic online features cost Sony nothing at all. To many gamers, PS4's premium online features are worth easily more than the $50 they pay each year. But for some gamers (e.g. me), what Sony is offering is only worth about $50 because we don't spend so much time online, let alone using those extra features. On PS3, I'll be able to enjoy those $50 worth of entertainment every now and then, but I won't be better off pay $50 annually for PS4 since it's an amount equal to what it's worth to me.

What's so difficult about keeping the fundamental online gameplay free of charge? Certainly no more than doing so for the PS3. So why can't they offer multiple solution to their online infrastructure? Surely Sony is earning more profit this way but they directly taking the benefits from gamers; not just the one can't play online because they aren't willing to pay but also the one who'd pay to play online. You're delusional (not a fact, just my opinion) if you think Sony couldn't offer online play for free while keeping the balance in check. And all of this wouldn't happen in the first place if those xbox users refuse to pay for XBL. Please stop saying okay to everything.

I love PSN + on the PS3, it's worth paying for. MS gold service was an insult, + is not. Sony hit the ball out the park. Pre-ordered my PS4. An E3 hasn't had me this hyped for years.

I'm not thrilled about either console really. MS has just lost their way sooner than Sony one day will, the integration of all this social bs into the consoles is beyond ridiculous. The PS4's main selling points, from reading all the articles and even the way they're titled, are nothing more than Sony saying 'PS4 doesn't do what Xbox One does, so buy ours and not theirs.' 

I hate the fact that it's all about how the systems directly compete with one another. I understand that most games are multi-plat anyway and the video games will come with the territory, but the focus is all wrong. Both companies want to sell consoles, everything else is secondary. That sucks.

Imagine you have an MMORPG like WoW (hypothetically), first you have to pay $60 to buy the game. But you still can't play the game you already bought with your hard earned money, because you have to start paying a monthly subscription fee to Blizzard as well. And after you start paying the subcription fees to Blizzard, YOU STILL CAN'T PLAY THE GAME WHICH YOU BOUGHT AND WHICH YOU ARE PAYING SUBCRIPTION FEES FOR, BECASUE YOU NOW ALSO HAVE TO PAY SUBSCRIPTION FEES TO THE COMPANY WHO MADE THE CONSOLE YOU'RE PLAYING ON.

And people are to blame for this. It is the gamers' fault. I kept seeing everywhere, when the PS3 let you play the games you already bought online for free and XBox 360 charged you for your right, everyone was going "Oh who cares if XBox charges you for online gameplay, I don't mind as long as their service is decent. PlayStation's service sucks, that's why their online service is free!". And Sony was completely shocked and traumatized by the fact that most people loved the XBox subcription fees while they hated the PS, and the billions just kept rolling into Microsoft's greedy pockets.

Well that's what you get for never complaining.

I'm indifferent, as much as I like Sony, why the hell should I pay extra to play online? The social features are great if they are free of charge but why should I be forced to pay for something that I wouldn't be using? Free online play was one of the reason why I picked the ps3 over 360 even when it's more expensive. This is just super lame. hoplayletsplay

Imagine you have an MMORPG like WoW (hypothetically), first you have to pay $60 to buy the game. But you still can't play the game you already bought with your hard earned money, because you have to start paying a monthly subscription fee to Blizzard as well. And after you start paying the subcription fees to Blizzard, YOU STILL CAN'T PLAY THE GAME WHICH YOU BOUGHT AND WHICH YOU ARE PAYING SUBCRIPTION FEES FOR, BECASUE YOU NOW ALSO HAVE TO PAY SUBSCRIPTION FEES TO THE COMPANY WHO MADE THE CONSOLE YOU'RE PLAYING ON.

And people are to blame for this. It is the gamers' fault. I kept seeing everywhere, when the PS3 let you play the games you already bought online for free and XBox 360 charged you for your right, everyone was going "Oh who cares if XBox charges you for online gameplay, I don't mind as long as their service is decent. PlayStation's service sucks, that's why their online service is free!". And Sony was completely shocked and traumatized by the fact that most people loved the XBox subcription fees while they hated the PS, and the billions just kept rolling into Microsoft's greedy pockets.

Well that's what you get for never complaining.

 

 

Al-Manyouk