Sonic and the Black Knight

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#1 Sunamaru
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Everytime I see this game there is always someone complaing about Sonic having a sword,I don't see whats so wrong with that . It looks cool to me running really fash and slicing things up at the same time. Poeple complain to much when they see sonic they want him to be plain and boring.

So what so bad about Sonic having a sword

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#2 BioShockOwnz
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Nostalgia gets the best of some people. Sonic & The Secret rings was a solid A title, so I expect around the same for this one. Can't wait!
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#3 Fick1122
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Nostalgia gets the best of some people. Sonic & The Secret rings was a solid A title, so I expect around the same for this one. Can't wait!BioShockOwnz
I don't think it's nostalgia as much as the fact that it seems so out of place; imagine a Mario game where he's in a medieval setting swinging around a sword. Yeah...
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#4 Greatgone12
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Your avatar says apologist, but your post reads "Dave Halverson".

So which is it?

Also, Sonic was bad enough when it was trying to be: a decent 3D platformer (Adventure 2); a decent 3D platformer with a dash of complexity, implemented fruitlessly (Heroes); a decent, edgy 3D platformer with lots of GUNS and VIOLENCE and GUNS (Shadow); a decent 3D platformer, take two (Sonic the Hedgehog); and one-half God of War rip-off (Unleashed). Now we have shades of Zelda and who-the-hell-knows what, so I doubt that this will be any better. In fact, according to my estimation, this is inevitably going to be worse, from a purely objective standpoint.

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#5 BeyondPain
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Because shadow the hedgehog was given guns and that game was terrible. Giving sonic a sword isn't much better. Plus team sonic tends to butcher their games when trying to add new elements. The sonic sections of unleashed were an improvement, a step in the right direction, hopefully a whole game like that will be next.
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#6 AtomicTangerine
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I hate to break it to you, but having Sonic in the game is what tips everybody off that it will be bad, not the sword, though that doesn't help. Sega fooled me too many times before for me to get excited about anything they put out that has to do with Sonic.
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#7 Sunamaru
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[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

Your avatar says apologist, but your post reads "Dave Halverson".

So which is it?

Also, Sonic was bad enough when it was trying to be: a decent 3D platformer (Adventure 2); a decent 3D platformer with a dash of complexity, implemented fruitlessly (Heroes); a decent, edgy 3D platformer with lots of GUNS and VIOLENCE and GUNS (Shadow); a decent 3D platformer, take two (Sonic the Hedgehog); and one-half God of War rip-off (Unleashed). Now we have shades of Zelda and who-the-hell-knows what, so I doubt that this will be any better. In fact, according to my estimation, this is inevitably going to be worse, from a purely objective standpoint.

too people saying it looks out of place it's because this is part of the spin-off series call the storybook series and he is in king arthers book this is the follow up from SatSR whitch was good... plus Marito with a sword woulden't be so bad and how can you say it will be worst when you know nothing about the game. just because sonic has a sword it's like zelda now? theres plenty of poeple who have had a sword before zelda
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#8 _LiquidFlame_
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I actually don't see a downside, I think it would be awesome. :)
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#9 Greatgone12
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too people saying it looks out of place it's because this is part of the spin-off series call the storybook series and he is in king arthers book this is the follow up from SatSR whitch was good... plus Marito with a sword woulden't be so bad and how can you say it will be worst when you know nothing about the game. just because sonic has a sword it's like zelda now? theres plenty of poeple who have had a sword before zeldaSunamaru
You're right. It probably isn't like Zelda. It probably is Zelda.

Sonic Team's creative talents are all dead or have left the company for greener pastures, I'm assuming. I have evidence to back this up, whereas you have Sonic with a sword.

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#10 Sunamaru
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[QUOTE="Sunamaru"] too people saying it looks out of place it's because this is part of the spin-off series call the storybook series and he is in king arthers book this is the follow up from SatSR whitch was good... plus Marito with a sword woulden't be so bad and how can you say it will be worst when you know nothing about the game. just because sonic has a sword it's like zelda now? theres plenty of poeple who have had a sword before zeldaGreatgone12

You're right. It probably isn't like Zelda. It probably is Zelda.

Sonic Team's creative talents are all dead or have left the company for greener pastures, I'm assuming. I have evidence to back this up, whereas you have Sonic with a sword.

You people see Sonic with a sword and yell Zelda, it makes no since, Zelda was not the first thing to have a sword in it
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#11 Greatgone12
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[QUOTE="Sunamaru"] You people see Sonic with a sword and yell Zelda, it makes no since, Zelda was not the first thing to have a sword in it

Listen: It is to my understanding that you are a big Sonic fan (as evidenced by your gamercard), and that you are willing to defend Sonic to the ends of the earth, no matter how irrational a notion it may be. I can almost respect that. HOWEVER, as long as you are irritated by my comparison of Sonic and Zelda, I will continue to compare the two franchises. Just so that's clear.
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Because it's clear that anyone with any talent left Sonic Team long ago.
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#13 Sunamaru
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[QUOTE="Sunamaru"] You people see Sonic with a sword and yell Zelda, it makes no since, Zelda was not the first thing to have a sword in itGreatgone12
Listen: It is to my understanding that you are a big Sonic fan (as evidenced by your gamercard), and that you are willing to defend Sonic to the ends of the earth, no matter how irrational a notion it may be. I can almost respect that. HOWEVER, as long as you are irritated by my comparison of Sonic and Zelda, I will continue to compare the two franchises. Just so that's clear.

I'm not really irritated,its that it just makes no since the is nothing wrong with Sonic with a sword, its cool to run around fast with sharp objects
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[QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="Sunamaru"] You people see Sonic with a sword and yell Zelda, it makes no since, Zelda was not the first thing to have a sword in itSunamaru
Listen: It is to my understanding that you are a big Sonic fan (as evidenced by your gamercard), and that you are willing to defend Sonic to the ends of the earth, no matter how irrational a notion it may be. I can almost respect that. HOWEVER, as long as you are irritated by my comparison of Sonic and Zelda, I will continue to compare the two franchises. Just so that's clear.

I'm not really irritated,its that it just makes no since the is nothing wrong with Sonic with a sword, its cool to run around fast with sharp objects

See, that's the part that makes it almost a fact this game won't be good. I love stabbing stuff in video games, but I haven't liked Sonic being on my TV since he stopped being on the Dreamcast...

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#15 Sunamaru
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[QUOTE="Sunamaru"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Listen: It is to my understanding that you are a big Sonic fan (as evidenced by your gamercard), and that you are willing to defend Sonic to the ends of the earth, no matter how irrational a notion it may be. I can almost respect that. HOWEVER, as long as you are irritated by my comparison of Sonic and Zelda, I will continue to compare the two franchises. Just so that's clear.AtomicTangerine

I'm not really irritated,its that it just makes no since the is nothing wrong with Sonic with a sword, its cool to run around fast with sharp objects

See, that's the part that makes it almost a fact this game won't be good. I love stabbing stuff in video games, but I haven't liked Sonic being on my TV since he stopped being on the Dreamcast...

Why haven't you liked him on your TV ?
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It's the follow-up to Sonic and the Secret Rings, which was a decent title. It uses the same control scheme as Sonic Unleashed on the Wii, which had great controls. It's going to have the same sort of tight, linear platforming that Secret Rings had. It should be a pretty good game.
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#17 AtomicTangerine
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[QUOTE="AtomicTangerine"]

[QUOTE="Sunamaru"] I'm not really irritated,its that it just makes no since the is nothing wrong with Sonic with a sword, its cool to run around fast with sharp objectsSunamaru

See, that's the part that makes it almost a fact this game won't be good. I love stabbing stuff in video games, but I haven't liked Sonic being on my TV since he stopped being on the Dreamcast...

Why haven't you liked him on your TV ?

Do I really have to elaborate on this? None of the other games he was in were worth playing. The. only exception was Super Smash Bros. but in that he was just one of 35. Basically, Sonic has been irrelevant since about 2003, and 7 years is a very long time when it comes to video games.

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#18 Sunamaru
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Do I really have to elaborate on this? None of the other games he was in were worth playing. The. only exception was Super Smash Bros. but in that he was just one of 35. Basically, Sonic has been irrelevant since about 2003, and 7 years is a very long time when it comes to video games.

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What about Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and the Rush titles?
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I have basically given up on 3-D sonics but i will keep my eyes on sonic. I won't turn my back on him.....yet.
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#20 Greatgone12
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What about Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and the Rush titles?Sunamaru
Sonic Unleashed is absolutely boring. The original Sonic games actually required some participation from the player. In Unleashed, participation is forced due to random quick-time events that you are never ready for, not to mention they're absolutely unnecessary, and then there are the Werehog levels that require no explanation. Sonic and the Secret Rings was supposed to be decent, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. Sonic Rush games are even worse than Sonic Unleashed, because not only do they require absolutely no participation from the player, but they're not pretty, which means that looking at them becomes a matter of whether or not you can stand ugly DS 3D graphics for extended periods of time.
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#21 Sunamaru
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[QUOTE="Sunamaru"] What about Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and the Rush titles?Greatgone12
Sonic Unleashed is absolutely boring. The original Sonic games actually required some participation from the player. In Unleashed, participation is forced due to random quick-time events that you are never ready for, not to mention they're absolutely unnecessary, and then there are the Werehog levels that require no explanation. Sonic and the Secret Rings was supposed to be decent, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. Sonic Rush games are even worse than Sonic Unleashed, because not only do they require absolutely no participation from the player, but they're not pretty, which means that looking at them becomes a matter of whether or not you can stand ugly DS 3D graphics for extended periods of time.

Sonic Unleashed boring? Have you acually played the game or just watch some movies? You are in complete control of the Sonic and its only like 2 qte per sonic level there are plenty of other games that use qtes and dosen't get criticized like Sonic,and the werehog levels are not really all that bad there are some cool combos, and some nice moments Sonic Rush also is a game that infact does need player participation,but I know what you mean about DS 3D it is ugly
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#22 Sunamaru
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I have basically given up on 3-D sonics but i will keep my eyes on sonic. I won't turn my back on him.....yet.Avistann
then you should play Sonic Unleashed it's a pretty good game, and step in the right direction. Hopefully the next cannon Sonic will just be Unleashed's Sonic levels Sonic and the Black Knight is like Unleashed's Sonic levels with a sword.
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#23 TrinityCat
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I think it'll be pretty cool :D
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#24 LJS9502_basic
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I still pick up the Sonic games. As with any series they have their ups and downs.
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#25 Zweihand
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Sonic Unleashed was god-awful; even worse than Sonic 2006.

Sonic and the Black Knight? The premise already is a joke. 3D Sonic games need to cease being.