One of the Most Overlooked Gems of the Past

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#1 ASK_Story
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I'm ashamed to admit that I missed out this great game:

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On Wikipedia, it says Klonoa 2 didn't receive commercial success, which sucks when you think about it. I wonder why?

Anyway, it's one of the best platforms ever made. It was a huge critical success though, and I guess successful enough to bring sequels.

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#2 Panzer_Zwei
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The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

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#3 ASK_Story
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The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

Panzer_Zwei

Than what's your idea of a gem than? Retro-gaming? The Golden Age of games? You think any game post 16-bit era are not qualified to be gems?

I know how this goes. I know there are some who game on nostalgia and in the past. That's cool. I respect your opinion and to each his/her own.

But just because I think games like Zelda Ocarina of Time, Resident Evil 4, New Super Mario Bros., Shadow of the Colossus, God of War 2, Dragon Quest VIII, Final Fantasy VII, or Batman Arkham Asylum are considered clas-sics or gems, doesn't make me wrong nor am I using the term "gem" the wrong way.

One man's trash is another man's treasure. But I don't see how anyone would think Klonoa 2 or the other games I mentioned would be trash.

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#4 TonyTcite
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never played it. ive heard of it... maybe i'll check it out.

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#5 aryoshi
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The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

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I agree. It's used as much as "Epic". Used in the wrong terms, etc. Gems, to me, are those really hard-to-find games on the Atari and NES that were both good and bad, especially unlicensed ones. Even that one that seems not even worth the money because of how horrible it is, you have to admit, is quite a hard find and obviously a collector's item if you can get it with everything, Action 52. It sold for $200, but by now is worth quite a lot as a full set. Even the cart itself is very hard to find.
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#7 MecaShadow
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I'm ashamed to admit that I missed out this great game:

File:Klonoa2.jpg

ASK_Story

The original for the PSX was even better. Shame that the GBA spinoffs were nowhere near as excellent...

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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

So your saying there's right and wrong answers here?

I consider Crystallis for the NES to be an often overlooked gem. It was better than the original Zelda.

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#9 TonyTcite
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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

So your saying there's right and wrong answers here?

I consider Crystallis for the NES to be an often overlooked gem. It was better than the original Zelda.

i dont know bout that.
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I believe it all ends on the personal preference of each and every individual here. So, good for you for finding something you like.

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Personally it's a good game. Not a great game or a must play. Maybe for $20 but not more than that. funny I thought the gba games were better than the 3d versions; there were more puzzles. But I did play the gba versions first and then tried the PS2 version. Parts of the PS2 game just required you to memorize the levels in order to collect all the gems.
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Jet Set Radio, some people just skip right to it's less superior sequel on Xbox.

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I played Klonoa 2, and I enjoyed it a lot. I say it's definitely worth playing for platformer-lovers.
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#14 ASK_Story
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

aryoshi
I agree. It's used as much as "Epic". Used in the wrong terms, etc. Gems, to me, are those really hard-to-find games on the Atari and NES that were both good and bad, especially unlicensed ones. Even that one that seems not even worth the money because of how horrible it is, you have to admit, is quite a hard find and obviously a collector's item if you can get it with everything, Action 52. It sold for $200, but by now is worth quite a lot as a full set. Even the cart itself is very hard to find.

I didn't know there was a rule or a law for personal taste or opinions. I consider my copy of Street Fighter IV and BlazBlue gems, also Chrono Cross and my Super Mario Advanced collection. Is that wrong? Am I using the term "gem" the wrong way? Of course not.
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[QUOTE="aryoshi"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

ASK_Story

I agree. It's used as much as "Epic". Used in the wrong terms, etc. Gems, to me, are those really hard-to-find games on the Atari and NES that were both good and bad, especially unlicensed ones. Even that one that seems not even worth the money because of how horrible it is, you have to admit, is quite a hard find and obviously a collector's item if you can get it with everything, Action 52. It sold for $200, but by now is worth quite a lot as a full set. Even the cart itself is very hard to find.

I didn't know there was a rule or a law for personal taste or opinions. I consider my copy of Street Fighter IV and BlazBlue gems, also Chrono Cross and my Super Mario Advanced collection. Is that wrong? Am I using the term "gem" the wrong way? Of course not.

There are multiple definitions of the term "gem." I, personally, consider a "gem" to be a highly praised game that wasn't blessed with commercial success, such as Psychonauts. Your definition is different, thus your opinion on what is a "gem" is much different as well.

Edit: GS failing and misspelling words and removing spaces

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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="aryoshi"] I agree. It's used as much as "Epic". Used in the wrong terms, etc. Gems, to me, are those really hard-to-find games on the Atari and NES that were both good and bad, especially unlicensed ones. Even that one that seems not even worth the money because of how horrible it is, you have to admit, is quite a hard find and obviously a collector's item if you can get it with everything, Action 52. It sold for $200, but by now is worth quite a lot as a full set. Even the cart itself is very hard to find.infested_ramza

I didn't know there was a rule or a law for personal taste or opinions. I consider my copy of Street Fighter IV and BlazBlue gems, also Chrono Cross and my Super Mario Advanced collection. Is that wrong? Am I using the term "gem" the wrong way? Of course not.

There are multiple definitions of the term "gem." I, personally, consider a "gem" to be a highly praised game that wasn't blessed with commercial success, such as Psychonauts. Your definition is different, thus your opinion on what is a "gem" is much different as well.

Edit: GS failing and misspelling words and removing spaces

Exactly what Klonoa 2 is! It fits your idea of a gem. But according to the posters above us, it's not. Oh well. To each his own I guess.
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OMG Klonoa 2 :D I LOVE Klonoa 2! Too bad it didn't sell well...

In recent memory I would have to say Ico, an absolute gem and a beautiful unique gaming experience but didn't recieve commerical success because it didn't have blood, zombies or aliens.

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If i can google it and immediately get 500 pages of buyable copies for under $50 it isnt a gem. Good or bad. Popular or not.

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#19 mariokart64fan
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driver paralel lines ,,

i dont see what people say how bad this was when the fact of the matter it is a realistic version of gta you can not run red lights etc

it tried to be a stunt like game so ,but ne way the 3rd was a success the 4th should have been

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#20 infested_ramza
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If i can google it and immediately get 500 pages of buyable copies for under $50 it isnt a gem. Good or bad. Popular or not.

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As I said previously, the definition of "gem" in gaming terms has yet to be solidifyed. I consider Baten Kaitos to be a "gem," due to it being highly praised, but not well received by the general public. Your definition of a "gem" is about how rare or expensive it is. Don't flame someone for having a different opinion

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#21 Alter_Echo
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I should have clarified that it was only my opinion. I already own the game in question though. Its a solid title. Just not a gem ( again only in my opinion ). Wasnt trying to flame.
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#22 laurensnaudts
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Just bought a ps2 and ordered Odin Sphere, I think that could be my overlooked "gem"

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#23 gregbmil
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

The term "gem" is used so much nowadays that it's lost it's significance.

It seems every game that didn't became popluar was overlooked or is a hidden gem to some people.

aryoshi

I agree. It's used as much as "Epic". Used in the wrong terms, etc. Gems, to me, are those really hard-to-find games on the Atari and NES that were both good and bad, especially unlicensed ones. Even that one that seems not even worth the money because of how horrible it is, you have to admit, is quite a hard find and obviously a collector's item if you can get it with everything, Action 52. It sold for $200, but by now is worth quite a lot as a full set. Even the cart itself is very hard to find.

I think your mistaking the word "Gem" for the word "Rare".