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#1 furqan2006
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Any comments about no planesĀ  in grand theft auto 4.

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#2 nexusprime
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There will be helicopters.

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#3 Robnyc22
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There is a really logical and obvious reason for this, and its not just because of any possible 9/11 controversy that may arise, one that even Rockstar stated in an feature magazine interview....ready....

Liberty City is based on New York City.....Rockstar's offices are based in NYC, so if anything I think they would have a very clear idea of what keeps with the theme of the setting.....

How many people use planes instead of helicopters to fly within New York City itself?

....there's your answer.

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#4 Riantomeister
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Why should u use a plane in a big city? too hard to fly and just no room.. In GTA SA it was great to fly a plane with the big open fields and dessert landscape but i dont think u need planes inĀ GTA 4Ā if u got a helicopter
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#6 nObiLis_AuRiga
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Why should u use a plane in a big city? too hard to fly and just no room.. In GTA SA it was great to fly a plane with the big open fields and dessert landscape but i dont think u need planes inĀ GTA 4Ā if u got a helicopterRiantomeister

yup...the helicopter will be goodĀ enough in a city

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#7 bxgt
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think about this, the fact that there not putting in any planes means lots more cars for us to drive in.
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There is a really logical and obvious reason for this, and its not just because of any possible 9/11 controversy that may arise, one that even Rockstar stated in an feature magazine interview....ready....

Liberty City is based on New York City.....Rockstar's offices are based in NYC, so if anything I think they would have a very clear idea of what keeps with the theme of the setting.....

How many people use planes instead of helicopters to fly within New York City itself?

....there's your answer.

Robnyc22

And who uses a plane to fly within the confines of Miami (Vice City had them)? Who uses a plane to land in the middle of a busy street? Who uses a dump truck to run over pedestrians?

It doesn't have to be a life simulator, it should be about giving the player as many options as possible. Just as the past ones did.

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And who uses a plane to fly within the confines of Miami (Vice City had them)? Who uses a plane to land in the middle of a busy street? Who uses a dump truck to run over pedestrians?

It doesn't have to be a life simulator, it should be about giving the player as many options as possible. Just as the past ones did.The_Duke_Lives

I think you're looking at this the wrong way.Ā  New York's skyline is so choked with tall buildings and is so densly populated that there would be nowhere to land.Ā  There's very few options for moving around the city in a plane that it would be pointless.Ā  Better that Rockstar focuses its efforts on building interiors, lots of cars, and better graphics.Ā 

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#10 The_Duke_Lives
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[QUOTE="The_Duke_Lives"]And who uses a plane to fly within the confines of Miami (Vice City had them)? Who uses a plane to land in the middle of a busy street? Who uses a dump truck to run over pedestrians?

It doesn't have to be a life simulator, it should be about giving the player as many options as possible. Just as the past ones did.skrutop

I think you're looking at this the wrong way.Ā  New York's skyline is so choked with tall buildings and is so densly populated that there would be nowhere to land.Ā  There's very few options for moving around the city in a plane that it would be pointless.Ā  Better that Rockstar focuses its efforts on building interiors, lots of cars, and better graphics.Ā 

Or they could focus their efforts on all of the above, including planes?

Sounds like a bunch of people making excuses for the developer to me.

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#11 UpInFlames
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I don't think it's a big deal at all. I only used planes when needed for missions in Vice City and San Andreas, so I don't really care. Helicopters are much convenient in a big city and easier to manoeuver.

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#12 bigdrew172
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besides the 9/11 connection I also agree that planes really just won't be necessary for a game based in one city.Ā  Plus i've never really been a big fan of the planes in the game except for when traveling long distances in SA.
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And who uses a plane to fly within the confines of Miami (Vice City had them)? Who uses a plane to land in the middle of a busy street? Who uses a dump truck to run over pedestrians?The_Duke_Lives

There are plenty of small seaplanes i the miami area.....seaplanes actually fit into the theme of a city based on Miami.

What the player chooses to do with the vehicles that fits in with the theme doesnt matter.

It doesn't have to be a life simulator, it should be about giving the player as many options as possible. Just as the past ones did.The_Duke_Lives

Well...then blame Rockstar, cause that's exactly the reason they gave in the interview feature with OPM and that with the kind of detail they are going with with GTAIV it would be pointless to have planes for this theme cause you'd be across the map in 5 seconds.

And the past ones didn't have really major vehicles that were out of place with the theme....all the vehicles in each of the series fit in with the location and theme.

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#15 The_Duke_Lives
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And the past ones didn't have really major vehicles that were out of place with the theme....all the vehicles in each of the series fit in with the location and theme.Ā Ā 

Robnyc22
You mean like the Army tank in Liberty City?
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You mean like the Army tank in Liberty City?The_Duke_Lives

You mean the Unlockable one that only spawned at an Army base when you got a certain amount of hidden packages....or did you mean the one that only appeared when you when completely psycho and the army came out after you after getting a certain star rating, which even then the army wouldnt appear until you passed a certain point in the game.Ā 

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#17 The_Duke_Lives
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[QUOTE="The_Duke_Lives"]You mean like the Army tank in Liberty City?Robnyc22

You mean the Unlockable one that only spawned at an Army base when you got a certain amount of hidden packages....or did you mean the one that only appeared when you when completely psycho and the army came out after you after getting a certain star rating, which even then the army wouldnt appear until you passed a certain point in the game.Ā 

That's the one.

Or maybe even the jet pack in San Andreas. ;)

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Really, I'm trying to care... but I don't.Ā  Planes were one of the most useless vehicles in all of the GTA games.Ā  They were a pain to maneuver, very limited in usefulness, and generally a thing I could have easily lived without.Ā  I would complain if they had no airborne vehicles but since they have copters I couldn't care less.
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#19 Robnyc22
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[QUOTE="Robnyc22"]

[QUOTE="The_Duke_Lives"]You mean like the Army tank in Liberty City?The_Duke_Lives

You mean the Unlockable one that only spawned at an Army base when you got a certain amount of hidden packages....or did you mean the one that only appeared when you when completely psycho and the army came out after you after getting a certain star rating, which even then the army wouldnt appear until you passed a certain point in the game.

That's the one.

Or maybe even the jet pack in San Andreas. ;)

Which was also unlockable only after completing the airstrip missions :P

I'm sure GTAIV will have unlockable vehicles, but Rockstart said an airplane doesn't work given they are trying to do with GTAIV and especially given the setting and its only taking place in one city.....a very detailed version of the city that will actually be bigger then all the other games, but still just one city.

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#20 Tactica1supris3
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I'm with Derek. I really don't care. I can't recall one experience in a plane in past GTA games that made the game that much more enjoyable (I also despised the seaplanes in VC with a passion).
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#21 vendettared468
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well im going to miss flying to a high altitude and going sky diving, although this could probobly be replased with base jumping off massive skyscrapers
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i just hope to god they at least have split screen mp..Ā  wow how awesome that would be.Ā 
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[QUOTE="skrutop"][QUOTE="The_Duke_Lives"]And who uses a plane to fly within the confines of Miami (Vice City had them)? Who uses a plane to land in the middle of a busy street? Who uses a dump truck to run over pedestrians?

It doesn't have to be a life simulator, it should be about giving the player as many options as possible. Just as the past ones did.The_Duke_Lives

I think you're looking at this the wrong way.Ā  New York's skyline is so choked with tall buildings and is so densly populated that there would be nowhere to land.Ā  There's very few options for moving around the city in a plane that it would be pointless.Ā  Better that Rockstar focuses its efforts on building interiors, lots of cars, and better graphics.Ā 

Or they could focus their efforts on all of the above, including planes?

Sounds like a bunch of people making excuses for the developer to me.

Or they are a developer more interested in making a nuanced and quality game experience rather than a rehash with everything and the kitchen sink thrown in to placate the masses.

Ā 

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I wish there were planes...and a bigger map :(
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#25 kdt55
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We may not need airliners, but small planes (not sea planes) would serve just fine.Ā  In fact, there are small planes that fly in New York City in real life.Ā  As you may remember, Cory Liddle (former Yankee pitcher)crashed his small plane and died in New York against a building.Ā  I know this is a bad example and might seem a little insensitive, but all I'm trying to say is that its stupid to say that planes that don't fly out of state don't exist in New York/New Jersey.
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#26 Martin_G_N
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well....GTA 4 is'nt near as big as GTA SA, and that's why it does'nt need planes. They will use time to build on the graphics and Physics engine for this game, and then the next GTA will probably have planes and be alot bigger. Remember how fast Vice City and GTA SA came out, they were allways at least twice the size every time. So I don't think we'll have to wait so long for the next GTA, then they will have the building blocks. And hopefully it's gonna be a PS3 exclusive because of Bluray:). GTA is a big game, it needs more space than a DVD can offer, they can't keep compressing they're way out of this problem.
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#27 RR88
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Come on, it seems like everyone is making excuses here. I would love if they had planes, and i'm fairly dissapointed they don't. At least they have Choppers though. Planes is the thing I used most in SA.
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#28 GodModeEnabled
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Dosen't bother me at all, I hated flying any kind of plane in the past games, I always LOVED flying the helicopters because they are so easy to maneuver and land anywheres, planes....ugh cant stand them. However the one exception is that jet fighter plane you steal from the naval base in SA, that thing was the dope.
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#29 mattykovax
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Ā Yeah, I wont miss the planes,useless vehicle, I only used them if the mission required them.

Ā Helicopters on the other hand are a must,and if GTA4 did not have them,then the game would downgradeĀ  alot in my eyes.

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#30 duxup
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When I think of GTA one of the last things I think of are airplanes.Ā  It is a total non issue for me.
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#31 Final Form
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Sounds like the expense of next-gen developement is forcing them to scale things back.Ā  Expect a weaker game in every way except for the graphics.Ā  This is why I hate the first couple years of a new console generation.
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#32 Haloforce
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No planes because in the city of accuracy? Thats BULL.

Has anyone ever been to New York City? JFK Airport anyone? LaGuardia? Not to mention planes fly over NYC all the time.

As you can i tell i am STILL pissed they didn't include airplanes. Seems like such a step backward in a major area.

There better be base-jumping from helicopters and buildings at least.

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#33 tryfe_lyn
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I'm upset that there are no planes.Ā  I am a big fan of flying and when they implemented that into SA, it was a dream come true.Ā  Most do not care for planes because they are "difficult" to control whereas choppers are not.Ā  I don't think the airplanes are that hard to maneuver...it just requires alot of skill in which some do not possess.Ā  It was great landing the prop plane on the vegas strip...similar to the goons inĀ Air Con...all you need is a 200m longĀ straightaway and you're all set...