Kojima on PS4: 'It's nothing special'

Doesn't sound too excited about the hardware even though he thinks it's great. Wants to see more games and sounds pissed that Sony wont reveal many games to him. I am not exactly sure he's talking about the hardware specs, but if he is then I agree. The console is just a bit too underpowered for my taste. 8GB of RAM is fantastic but the GPU and CPU need to be a lot more powerful for a next gen console. Looks like they are going for an affordable and reliable console, and that's great and all but it's nothing special. 

Speaking to us after the launch of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Kojima said that he was too busy to actually watch Sonys PlayStation Meeting, but when we described it to him, he responded: Of course, I know what the hardware is, but I want to see how other companies are using it. First of all, I think thats great, but its nothing special; you could see it coming. Its the logical evolution of the platform and I think it has to head in that direction, hearing what you said is not surprising.

Honestly, I think all of that is good and great, he continued. Social aspects, the multidevice direction: thats correct, thats the way to go. But just because it has these features doesnt mean its going to be a success. What will really determine whether or not it sells is what titles will be available for the platform. And unfortunately, even though I am friends with Mark Cerny, hes never told me what other studios are working on. I even ate a meal with him recently and he didnt tell me anything.EDGE

http://www.edge-online.com/news/hideo-kojima-on-sonys-ps4-plans/

If you wanted better specs, you'd have to settle for a 699$ price tag and water-cooling.

Basically, buy a PC if you want more power.

If you wanted better specs, you'd have to settle for a 699$ price tag and water-cooling.

Basically, buy a PC if you want more power.

nameless12345

Most games are developed on consoles first then ported to PC. I'd likely get slightly better graphics with better framerates and resolution. Nothing compared to what we would get when all developers are making their game on a truly powerful console.

I think the specs are great. I mean honestly, what do these devs want? A lot of them constantly complain about the consoles being underpowered, but then also complain that better tech means higher development costs. So which is it? 

Edit: This wasn't directed at Kojima. 

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

If you wanted better specs, you'd have to settle for a 699$ price tag and water-cooling.

Basically, buy a PC if you want more power.

S0lidSnake

Most games are developed on consoles first then ported to PC. I'd likely get slightly better graphics with better framerates and resolution. Nothing compared to what we would get when all developers are making their game on a truly powerful console.

PC exclusives exist too you know.

Games like Arma, Total War, Star Citizen, ect.

And these games *do* push the hardware.

Also, basically every multi-plat is superior on PC.

Sounds a little like a jilted lover. They didn't even play footsies while at diner. I mean. What's a guy got to do? Not even a jingle of the keys at the end of the night.

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I'm with him on the, we have to wait and see, front. I wonder if the devs will rehash their excuses or will they be a little more creative with them if the reviews aren't favorable?

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Next gen games, not just next gen hardware.

Neither was MGS4, but we don't b*tch about itBlack_Knight_00

Fixed.

*Shrugs* Reads to me like he is just saying he can't judge how successful the system will be until he sees all the games. A bit on the obvious side, but a perfectly reasonable statement.

The games are what Sony and MS has managed to keep under wraps, so unlike the specs (which much be shared with all developers if a first party is well, sane) they probably aren't giving people more info then they need to know about the games (Kojima doesn't need to know what Level 5 is working on).

Honestly, if Sony and MS did otherwise news stories would be filled with anonymous sources giving us details about unannounced PS4/X720 games.

*Shrugs* Reads to me like he is just saying he can't judge how successful the system will be until he sees all the games. A bit on the obvious side, but a perfectly reasonable statement.

The games are what Sony and MS has managed to keep under wraps, so unlike the specs (which much be shared with all developers if a first party is well, sane) they probably aren't giving people more info then they need to know about the games (Kojima doesn't need to know what Level 5 is working on).

Honestly, if Sony and MS did otherwise news stories would be filled with anonymous sources giving us details about unannounced PS4/X720 games.

CarnageHeart

I agree. It seems like he's fine with the social aspects of the PS4, but it's really all about gaming and how far Sony and other companies will push it with their gaming choices.

I think what Kojima said was perfectly reasonable.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Neither was MGS4, but we don't b*tch about itShame-usBlackley

Fixed.

Meh I'm getting sick of all the PS4 talk already.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Neither is the Metal Gear series, but we don't b*tch about itShame-usBlackley

Fixed.

Meh I'm getting sick of all the PS4 talk already.

Bigboi500

I know right, me too, that's why I came in here to read and talk about it because I'm clearly an idiot!

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Meh I'm getting sick of all the PS4 talk already.

23Jarek23

I know right, me too, that's why I came in here to read and talk about it because I'm clearly an idiot!

I'm sorry guys but I'm not getting the same interpretation as some of you are. To me, Kojima is making an observation that having all these extra social features and apps are nice and all but ultimately the games that get released on the system will decide its success. Isn't that what most of us have voiced at some point in time on these boards in varying degrees? I don't know perhaps I'm alone in this one but that's what I got out of it.juradai

Like rag said, this sounds like someone who is bitter over Sony giving him the cold shoulder. He specifically mentions that he has no idea what other devs are doing, and by that he likely means Sony devs. He was doing exclusive PS3 development last gen and Sony is known for going the extra mile accomodating devs and sharing tech talk when they decide to go exclusive. Now that he's gone multiplatform Sony's kept him out of the loop and he's upset at not being Sony's golden boy anymore. :P

Of course it's going to be about the games. It always is. And Sony's console is supposed to be the most game focused console of the three, so why bring it up?

[QUOTE="juradai"]I'm sorry guys but I'm not getting the same interpretation as some of you are. To me, Kojima is making an observation that having all these extra social features and apps are nice and all but ultimately the games that get released on the system will decide its success. Isn't that what most of us have voiced at some point in time on these boards in varying degrees? I don't know perhaps I'm alone in this one but that's what I got out of it.S0lidSnake

Like rag said, this sounds like someone who is bitter over Sony giving him the cold shoulder. He specifically mentions that he has no idea what other devs are doing, and by that he likely means Sony devs. He was doing exclusive PS3 development last gen and Sony is known for going the extra mile accomodating devs and sharing tech talk when they decide to go exclusive. Now that he's gone multiplatform Sony's kept him out of the loop and he's upset at not being Sony's golden boy anymore. :P

Of course it's going to be about the games. It always is. And Sony's console is supposed to be the most game focused console of the three, so why bring it up?

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="juradai"]I'm sorry guys but I'm not getting the same interpretation as some of you are. To me, Kojima is making an observation that having all these extra social features and apps are nice and all but ultimately the games that get released on the system will decide its success. Isn't that what most of us have voiced at some point in time on these boards in varying degrees? I don't know perhaps I'm alone in this one but that's what I got out of it.juradai

Like rag said, this sounds like someone who is bitter over Sony giving him the cold shoulder. He specifically mentions that he has no idea what other devs are doing, and by that he likely means Sony devs. He was doing exclusive PS3 development last gen and Sony is known for going the extra mile accomodating devs and sharing tech talk when they decide to go exclusive. Now that he's gone multiplatform Sony's kept him out of the loop and he's upset at not being Sony's golden boy anymore. :P

Of course it's going to be about the games. It always is. And Sony's console is supposed to be the most game focused console of the three, so why bring it up?

Fair enough.

Is he really surprised that head of the entire PS4 project won't break his confidentiality agreements so that he can tell his "friend" what all of his competitors are doing before they publicly announce it? :?

Well he's right in the way he explains it.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Neither was MGS4, but we don't b*tch about itShame-usBlackley

Fixed.

[spoiler] plus Metal Gear Rising was the best metal gear game this gen. Come at me bro >.> [/spoiler]

I'm nothing special. 

HideoKojima

Fixed yet again

Well he's right in the way he explains it.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Neither was MGS4, but we don't b*tch about ittimmy00

Fixed.

[spoiler] plus Metal Gear Rising was the best metal gear game this gen. Come at me bro >.> [/spoiler]

Easily, yes. 

Neither was Metal Gear Rising, but we don't b*tch about itBlack_Knight_00

Gotta disagree here, Metal Gear Rising is brilliant and one of the best single player games I have played in a while. Plus, it was developed by Platinum so they're primarily responsible for the game and how it was made, although Kojima did oversee the story development and cutscenes.

Hideo Kojima has described PS4 as a logical evolution of the PlayStation platform and welcomed its social aspects, but stressed the importance of quality software for the next-gen console.

Well that's kind of a no sh!t statement.

"And unfortunately, even though I am friends with Mark Cerny, hes never told me what other studios are working on. I even ate a meal with him recently and he didnt tell me anything."

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[spoiler] plus Metal Gear Rising was the best metal gear game this gen. Come at me bro >.> [/spoiler]

Nah that easily goes to Peace Walker Fantastic game.

MGSPW>MGS4>MGRR(though still damn good)

Honestly, with Sony's lack of support for bringing some big franchises or at least many big 3rd party devs to the Vita, I don't blame him for wanting to see what they have in store game wise for the PS4 (granted, I see Sony having a steady stream of announcements leading up to the PS4 since they have been seeming to have made the system with devs and fans in mind [such as by saying they'll be competitive with the pricing] and will likely continue to hype it with new games throughout the year).