Instruction manuals. Keep them or eliminate them?

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#1 OwnallConsoles
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eliminating them could help save trees and put less stress on the environment. If a game sells 5 million copies that also is 5 million books. I never read them and find them pretty much useless. What say yoU?

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eliminating them could help save trees and put less stress on the environment. If a game sells 5 million copies that also is 5 million books. I never read them and find them pretty much useless. What say yoU?

OwnallConsoles

why is this on legacy platforms, but I'd like to know some things about the game

bu tmaybe those books are too wasteful with pictures of your game controller and how to plug it in

and sezure warnnings and printing the manual in french

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#3 BuryMe
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Keep them

And not only keep them, but they need to start putting actual instructions in them again. I hate having to play through tutorials because I forgot 1 move

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#4 bigM10231
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keep them for the collectors

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#5 OreoMilkshake
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Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.
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#6 muthsera666
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I love the manuals. I read them just as a way to relive the experience of playing the game, or because the backstory and information they provide contribute to playing the game.
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#7 Cloud-Zehro
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Keep them! It makes the game package feel complete...

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#8 angelo3903
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Include them as a digital printable (for the collectors) file that can be viewed anywere.

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#9 paradigm68
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Keep them, people don't get there are much better ways of saving our planet. Besides conserving a couple dozen paged booklet. The companies just use the conservation excuse so it sounds better when they will save a couple pennies for every hundred games sold. While good physical manuals are harder and harder to come by nowadays, let them die off when all of our games will be digital downloads.
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#10 rwallacefan
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I only keep the ones that I find a collector's or just a fun thing to look at from past memories.

Like Parasite Eve for example I have that one since I have the case to go along with it, so if the value of the game is high, IF selling I have it complete with everything

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#11 Daavpuke
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Keep them obviously. Recyclable paper exists, so that argument can't really fit the bill. Manuals are always handy. If anything they keep forums like these free from daily threads about "which button do I use to run" and other pointless things. It puts less stress on the interwebz.

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#12 meteo_ryte
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They should get rid of printed manuals but provide them online. PDF is where it's at - let the game owner decide whether or not to waste paper. Some companies are beginning to do that now, as it also cuts costs for them. And the interwebz doesn't feel stress! But i suppose sites like this do.

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#13 Rocky32189
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Keep them. The amount of paper used to make game manuals is nothing compared to total paper use. Also, the environmentalist argument doesn't work because paper can be recycled. Game companies simply use this as an excuse. In actuality the only reason they want to get rid of manuals is because it will save them money.
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#14 kingdavid562
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Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.OreoMilkshake
not every one speaks english you know:?

i say make them smaller and include more instructions in the game...

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#15 Darkman2007
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keep manuals, but change them a bit

- cut out the clutter, some manuals are filled with things which are completly useless, like the "setting up your console" section, its a waste of paper, or telling you what the options in the main menu do.

- make them higher quality, it amazes me that alot of games manuals are still in black in white, considering the price of games now, a colour print wouldnt impact the price much.

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#16 Panzer_Zwei
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Hell I wish I had the instruction cards for a lot of my arcade games. But those are harder to find than the actual games.

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#17 Greyfeld
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.kingdavid562

not every one speaks english you know:?

Except if you stop to think about it... the manual is printed in 2-3 languages... but the game only plays in English. So, why are we catering to other languages in the written format when they have to know English to understand the game anyway?

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#18 z4twenny
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[QUOTE="kingdavid562"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.Greyfeld

not every one speaks english you know:?

Except if you stop to think about it... the manual is printed in 2-3 languages... but the game only plays in English. So, why are we catering to other languages in the written format when they have to know English to understand the game anyway?

actually there are multi5 versions of games that will have english,spanish,german,french and italian all on the same disc and you pick your language at the beginning, but thats not in the u.s. usually.

i say keep them, i can think of a lot of things we could cut down on aside from video game manuals that could save alot more trees (ever seen the amount of paper trash the average businessputs outin one week?)

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#19 kingdavid562
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[QUOTE="kingdavid562"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.Greyfeld

not every one speaks english you know:?

Except if you stop to think about it... the manual is printed in 2-3 languages... but the game only plays in English. So, why are we catering to other languages in the written format when they have to know English to understand the game anyway?

north america all gets the same game and the disk sometimes holds 3 laguages...

you have to change the laguage of the consel for it to change..

and it is more important to have the manual if you dont speak english..

my friend who speaks spanish can pass RPGs without knowing much english..thanks to the manual..

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#20 muthsera666
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Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.OreoMilkshake
I think I only have one game that has a manual in a different language as well as English. I didn't know it was that common of a thing.
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eliminating them could help save trees and put less stress on the environment. If a game sells 5 million copies that also is 5 million books. I never read them and find them pretty much useless. What say yoU?

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5 million guides on recycled paper is nothing. If anything they should go back to the days where you get a backstory, and an actual manual in the game. Companies like Rockstar are still printing useful guides, but EA has gradually got worse since PS2. Now you basically get a move list, a paragraph about the changes from the last installment, and a Live disclaimer. That is very shoddy.
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#22 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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eliminating them could help save trees and put less stress on the environment. If a game sells 5 million copies that also is 5 million books. I never read them and find them pretty much useless. What say yoU?

OwnallConsoles

I think that they had a use before, but I'd say the could be done without now. They could just have ingame manuals.

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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

eliminating them could help save trees and put less stress on the environment. If a game sells 5 million copies that also is 5 million books. I never read them and find them pretty much useless. What say yoU?

billyd5301

5 million guides on recycled paper is nothing. If anything they should go back to the days where you get a backstory, and an actual manual in the game. Companies like Rockstar are still printing useful guides, but EA has gradually got worse since PS2. Now you basically get a move list, a paragraph about the changes from the last installment, and a Live disclaimer. That is very shoddy.

I really like how R* includes maps and posters with all their games. Other devs should do that with their games more often.

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#24 Daavpuke
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.muthsera666
I think I only have one game that has a manual in a different language as well as English. I didn't know it was that common of a thing.

Depends where you live. In Europe that is common. Sometimes there won't even be an English explanation, or even worse, they only choose 1 language of a country, when it has multiple. Imagine living in Quebec, not knowing French and the booklet starts with "allumez votre console".
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#25 Emerald_Warrior
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Are you crazy man? Keep them! They're the cool little extra prize that comes with the game! You get more background on the story of a game and the characters, special moves are listed, and you get cool artwork. Why wouldn't you want those things? They already stopped packing in the line-up posters they used to do. Man those were awesome, I wish they'd still do that (NES Nintendo Line-Up, Sega Master System Line-Up, Tecmo NES Line-Up, Konami NES Line-Up, etc.)
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#26 JReefer1
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If it's for the begining of a new series then keep'em in, but for sports games and part two and three of games I see no reason to have a instruction insert, unless of course it's a special edition or something.
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#27 muthsera666
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Keep them. Get rid of printing the entire thing in different languages.Daavpuke
I think I only have one game that has a manual in a different language as well as English. I didn't know it was that common of a thing.

Depends where you live. In Europe that is common. Sometimes there won't even be an English explanation, or even worse, they only choose 1 language of a country, when it has multiple. Imagine living in Quebec, not knowing French and the booklet starts with "allumez votre console".

Ah, I gotcha. In the US, it doesn't seem very common.
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#28 hyper_trunkx
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i always keep them
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#29 mariokart64fan
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i say keep them but , ,

make sure they are non ripable , -they must laminate for us

i lost several manuals over the years for gc xbox ps2 ,

i just dont keep most of the ones i use ,

but i hardly use those ,

snes and n64 era maybe but now i just play the games

-so most of if not all my new stuff has manuals except guitar hero 5 and vanhelen

i lost the first the later didnt come w one