If these microtransactions in modern games keep getting worse, I'm gonna say goodbye to modern gaming for good.

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#1 hd_hammah_17
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After seeing the Call of Duty mobile and NBA 2K20 microtransactions, I'm disgusted at what modern games have become. Trying to nickel and dime you for every little aspect of a game, and preying on little kids to buy in-game currency they're just gonna lose. Plus, they make the game unwinnable; I can't tell you how many times I've gotten blasted on Black Ops 4 and Fortnite from people with overpowered weapons that I can't even unlock cause I can't afford to buy a million supply drops. If this is all games are gonna strive to be anymore, I'm don't wanna be a part of it anymore.

I'll give them until Holiday 2021 to fix all of this crap. If the games that are announced around that time are still full of these kinda predatory practices, I'm gonna say goodbye to modern gaming; I won't keep up with new games, or even buy new consoles at all. EA, Activision, Blizzard, Epic, Bethesda, Ubisoft, 2K, Capcom, WB, all of you're games are being fucking ruined by this gambling, both financially and enjoyably.

In its place, I'll be restoring my old Wii and PS2 collections from my childhood, cause the games on these consoles didn't have this kinda shit. Starting off with the games I already had like SpongeBob, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Madden, Sonic, Disney games, Lego games, Need for Speed, Jak & Daxter, Tom Clancy, Marvel/DC, and Kingdom Hearts. Later on, I'll branch out into ones I've always wanted to try out. Then maybe I'll add GameCube and PS1 since they're backward compatible, and perhaps even other old-school stuff like SNES, Genesis, N64, or Original Xbox. There are a plethora of consoles with thousands of games for me to choose from that are just as fun as they ever were. I don't need you, modern gaming, I have other ways to play.

I really hope modern gaming gets fixed. Please tell me there are major game studios out there who don't practice this kinda bullshit. I've had a PS4 for years now, and I'm fucking TIRED of all of the nickel and diming, predatory gambling, and not being able to enjoy games cause I can't win them. You've got until Holiday 2021 to fix this problem, majorly, otherwise, goodbye modern gaming. Makes me sad, I've been engaged in this hobby since I was 6 years old, and now 11 years later look at what it's become.

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#2 Vaidream45
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Play some indie titles and Nintendo games instead. I stay away from all games with micro transactions except for games like Rocket League where it’s all just cosmetic stuff. Most AAA titles are just not for me anymore. It is indeed sad the way the industry has gone.

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#3 thereal25
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Multiplayer games tend to have more of these kind of practices + in order to stay current you usually have to buy these type of games close to day one.

I don't see so much of it in singleplayer games but it's still there.

Anyway, I was just thinking about this myself... people can call me stingy for not wanting to waste valuable money on gaming but at the end of the day I don't even have to be a gamer at all. I could give it all up if I really wanted to.

Or I could do something similar to what you suggested and just replay the old greats!

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#4 RSM-HQ
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I think blaming the whole gaming industry for scummy and forced micro-transactions is unfounded, it's select publishers that drive them in.

Write them off sure, but giving up on modern gaming entirely just seems juvenile.

How people still tolerate Electronic Arts and Activision is mind-blowing honestly.

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#5  Edited By warmblur
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Unfortunately it's just going to get worst unless some laws get passed but good luck with all of that the majority of politicians take bribes like candy.

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@RSM-HQ: I tolerate both EA & Activision by NOT paying a single dime anything with Microtransaction/lootboxes at all. Same goes for WB games like Shadow of War.

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#7 Blazepanzer24
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Yeah...Micro-transactions are one of the main reasons I'm not interested in buying the PS5 / Xbox Scarlet. Sure Indie titles are usually better about not having micro-transactions, but my gaming rig (Big Dossie) ought to handle them for the next ten years, and besides there's more then enough games for me to enjoy on the hardware that I have now.

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#8 R-Gamer
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Blaming the whole industry is a little extreme. As long as they give me a full product worth the money or allow me to earn stuff on my own then I'm ok.

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#9 RSM-HQ
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@davillain- said:

@RSM-HQ: I tolerate both EA & Activision by NOT paying a single dime anything with Microtransaction/lootboxes at all. Same goes for WB games like Shadow of War.

Respect your restraint and morals to these companies, though sad truth is majority profit off both companies are micro-transactions. As such they continue year-after-year to see how much they can get away with, without the customers best interests_

Recommending these games to friends/ family gives potential to them falling in the micro-transaction pit in your stead. Which will only continue to damage your base-game experience. And you know full well it has already gone too far, c'mon. .

Games like Call of Duty revolve around PvP and to many would argue the map packs are a defining selling point to the games, not to have them is like owning 30% a product, or even less so. And I won't go into the other examples because I'm fairly certain we've covered them a few times already.

Seeing the money people are willing to burn also pollutes other companies to follow the same business models; because it works till proven otherwise. And while Activision and Electronic Arts have got away with it for years it's not a way to keep customers coming back_

As for Shadow of War; I respect any move to address universal feedback and remove all micro-transactions from the game to help good-will. Resolving the situation/ mending loyalty to a customer-base for a healthier future.

Something that remains to be seen from Activision and Electronic Arts, all they do is repackage and try again.

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#10  Edited By pyro1245
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You won't be missing anything by giving up mainstream AAA gaming.

Stick to the AA and indie market and the occasional non-offensive AAA game and you will still have more good games that you will ever be able to play.

Number one rule is you gotta stay strapped just don't give money to shit AAA games.

May I recommend:

  • Factorio
  • Cross Code
  • RimWorld
  • Slay The Spire
  • Disco Elysium
  • CDPR games
  • From Software games (Souls)
  • Larian games (Divinity)
  • Monster Hunter World
  • Cities Skylines
  • Wasteland 2 (and soon 3)
  • Hollow Knight
  • The Surge 2
  • A Hat In Time
  • Dragon Quest XI
  • The Metro Series
  • Touhou Luna Nights
  • Nioh
  • 20XX
  • Cuphead
  • Katana ZERO
  • Sky Force
  • Shadowrun
  • XCOM
  • Axiom Verge

And that's just off the cuff. I stopped myself because The Outer Worlds is about to come out and I need to eat.

Really. The shit part of the market is actually a very small percentage. A very small percentages with the biggest marketing budgets. Just don't support them. There are soooo many good games coming out all the time. It is, however, important to support the studios and publishers that do it right.

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#11 RSM-HQ
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@pyro1245: Fine list_

Though to tag onto your list; shout out to Vanillaware, I love the games they make, gave tons of free DLC to all versions of Dragon's Crown as well.

Only issue is they take almost a decade per game, even when they re-touched up games like Odin Sphere.

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#13 Yams1980
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Its funny how greedy these AAA publishers have gotten.

They not only sell you a 60-80+ dollar game these days, they also block off parts of those games with paywalls, so you are paying a large price for the initial game, then you gotta unlock the full game through lootboxes and other microtransactions.

The greed of them is impressive. Its too bad people keep jumping blindly into their games and just giving their money away to them, you keep rewarding bad behaviour, it will never stop.

A fully F2P game, I can understand them blocking off items or parts in the game to sell to people to keep their game going, but if you've already paid a premium price for a game, it should include everything. EA/2K/Activision/WB/Ubisoft should not be charging money for their games if they are going to keep putting in microtransactions on top of the purchase price.

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#14 omegaMaster
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It's going to get worse

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#17 Speeny
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Hasn't really been a bother to me so far.

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#18 RSM-HQ
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@speeny said:

Hasn't really been a bother to me so far.

From the games you've mentioned playing previously I don't think it would be seen as an issue. Hmm, maybe Smash Bros. Even then I think the quality of new Fighters is worth the price of admission.

Call of Duty for example is a game that charges real money for a literal 'red dot' cosmetic item, and I'm not even kidding. . .

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#19  Edited By Guntster22
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Never paid for a micro transaction and never will. I don't give a shit which skin my game character is wearing. To block game content off to a paywall , WTF, some deadshits must actually pay for this " privilege"

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#20 PurpleMan5000
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EA, Ubisoft, Activision/Blizzard, Bethesda, and Take 2 are all doing their best to ruin gaming. Just don't support them and most of the other stuff is still pretty good.

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#21  Edited By Fractured_Veil
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The big studios have found them to be a good revenue stream. So unfortunately I'm not sure they are going anywhere soon.

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#22 wolfpup7
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@hd_hammah_17: there’s tons of games that don’t have those issues, and you’re mentioning mostly free to play stuff that’s not really games and is broken And abusive by design.

I’ve got piles of current gen games that don’t do any of this stuff, thankfully.

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#23 Baconstrip78
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https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

My generation (or our parents) paid $50 for NES games back in 1986. Everyone do yourself a favor and put that into the link above.

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#24 Blueresident87
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I just stay away from games that have them, especially those that are outright known for them.

Call of Duty, NBA 2k, Fallout 76 are games I'll never play. I spend a lot of time with games that have no mention of microtransactions.