Has anyone received this about used gaming & selling used games?

It's titled, "Know Your Rights Before Signing That EULA", & it's about used gaming in general. I'm just going to post the link to the site below:

Link.

I'm like, what the hell is this?

It's sad but nowadays we don't own games, we own licences to play those games.

It's sad but nowadays we don't own games, we own licences to play those games.

tjricardo089

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."

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It's sad but nowadays we don't own games, we own licences to play those games.

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."

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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

It's sad but nowadays we don't own games, we own licences to play those games.

ShadowsDemon

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."

Yeah this really annoys me...companies just keep making buying their games a lot less enjoyable.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."

Yeah this really annoys me...companies just keep making buying their games a lot less enjoyable.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

I never buy used games anyway, so that isn't relevant to me. Used games are hurting the game industry. People should buy new games instead.GamerwillzPS

Really?

1) Not not everyone can afford to buy all their games new - buying used games keeps the consumer engaged in gaming, eventually leading to sales of new titles by that same gamer when they have the cash/are hooked enough on a series to get the game on Day 1 etc.

2) Used game sales drive the sales ofadditional hardware (e.g. a gaming headset); DLC etc.

3) The game industry bears the onus for responding to consumer trends. If used games are going up, there's a reason why, and using legislation and bullying to stop it does no good in the long run.

I never buy used games anyway, so that isn't relevant to me. Used games are hurting the game industry. People should buy new games instead.GamerwillzPS

Except for when companies decide to stop supporting redemption/access codes such as in the latest Medal of Honor. It really makes you question the point of supporting them if they won't bother following through with their new codes.

Plus, if they'd stop releasing every game at $60 they'd probably have better sales on new games. After all, when there are games that come out that are basically guaranteed to go down in price within a month, what's the point of buying it at $60 new? Just look at games like Deus Ex: Human Revolution and AC: Revelations, both went down in price extremely quick, and by then the used price is even more appealing (at least at Gamestop which allows you to basically return it within 7 days for any reason).

If used games are hurting the industry then I guess I'm a bad person for buying NES, N64, original Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2 games used. It's obviously better to just not play them ever.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."garland51

Yeah this really annoys me...companies just keep making buying their games a lot less enjoyable.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

That's a horrible thing to wish for.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

garland51

Nah living through 1 was plenty for me. I rather not go through it ever again.

I never buy used games anyway, so that isn't relevant to me. Used games are hurting the game industry. People should buy new games instead.GamerwillzPS

Used games arent hurting anything. In order for the game to be used, someone had to have already paid 60 for it. If developers are being hurt by used games, it isn't the person buying them that is the problem, its the people offering them for sale(gamestop). Also, Devs themselves are their own worst enemy releasing crappy or broken games that arent worth the price of admission.

Some games you can't find new anymore or they are incredibly difficult to get new. Are those people just supposed to say screw it and not play it because they can't find it new? This whole used game thing is stupid, just like online passes.

No other industry whines about people buying used goods, why the hell should gaming be any different?

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One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

Dracula68

Nah living through 1 was plenty for me. I rather not go through it ever again.

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Yeah this really annoys me...companies just keep making buying their games a lot less enjoyable.King9999

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

That's a horrible thing to wish for.

Isn't just horrible,it's stupid. If another gaming crash happened, it's going to affect everyone in the gaming industry and none of us want that.

You lived through the crash of 1983? Just how old are you anyway? You're not the actual Dracula, are you?

Black_Knight_00

At that time I was 15.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]I never buy used games anyway, so that isn't relevant to me. Used games are hurting the game industry. People should buy new games instead.leilamayhem

Really?

1) Not not everyone can afford to buy all their games new - buying used games keeps the consumer engaged in gaming, eventually leading to sales of new titles by that same gamer when they have the cash/are hooked enough on a series to get the game on Day 1 etc.

2) Used game sales drive the sales ofadditional hardware (e.g. a gaming headset); DLC etc.

3) The game industry bears the onus for responding to consumer trends. If used games are going up, there's a reason why, and using legislation and bullying to stop it does no good in the long run.

^ This!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

If it weren't for used games, I probably wouldn't be playing games as much as I am.

Developers need to stop whining about used games. They need to suck it up, most of the people I know buy new games for $60 day one anyway!

Without used games they'd probably lose more money because it does keep the consumers engaged.

I hate how developers are trying every little thing they can to put an end to used game sales.

Before you know, games will be ID locked like in Metal Gear Solid 4 so only the person who originally purchased the game, or license rather, can play it. XD

If it weren't for used games, I probably wouldn't be playing games as much as I am.

GeoffZak

I would have quit long ago if that was the case. I only bought 1 full price game (Skyrim) last year and will only buy 1 full price (Borderlands 2) this year. There was a time in my past where I would waste money and buy so many games brand new on release date only to have them be like $10-20 by the time I got around to playing them. In 2007 I finally stopped myself from doing that.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

garland51

Nintendo, at the very least, would come out unschated. They seem to not care about used sales of their games at all, because their games sell for more than a two week window at new prices, I believe the popular term is that Nintendo games have "legs". As opposed to the big budget blockbuster games on the HD consoles and the Sony portables. You can find maybe one or two used copies of Mario Galaxy 2 at any local Gamestop. The same Gamestop will damn near have a walls worth of Skyrim and Modern Warfare 3. It's on them to figure why that is. But through a combination of arrogance and pride, I doubt they will. Till then Nintendo continues to sail on a clear blue ocean while everyone else runs around like a chicken with their heads cut off.

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You lived through the crash of 1983? Just how old are you anyway? You're not the actual Dracula, are you?

Dracula68

At that time I was 15.

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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

You lived through the crash of 1983? Just how old are you anyway? You're not the actual Dracula, are you?

Black_Knight_00

At that time I was 15.

Thank you Sir! I feel vindicated finally after all these years with this username:)

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At that time I was 15.

Dracula68

Thank you Sir! I feel vindicated finally after all these years with this username:)

Well he was obviously brought here by humans, who wish to pay him tribute.Randolph

Tribute? He steals men's souls and makes them their slaves!

[QUOTE="Randolph"]Well he was obviously brought here by humans, who wish to pay him tribute.King9999

Tribute? He steals men's souls and makes them their slaves!

Thats copyright everywhere. You buy a CD, you don't own the music, you own the plastic. Same with anything else.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Basically, publishers/developers are saying, "**** the gamers & their rights."garland51

Yeah this really annoys me...companies just keep making buying their games a lot less enjoyable.

One thing I can hope for is another gaming crash down the road to teach them a lesson.

That's pathetic.

At least you get to enjoy gaming at all. Be thankful for that. I hope you're kidding, otherwise that's just sick.