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I haven't really heard of people saying the game was really hard. I found it pretty easy, still greatly enjoyed it though.
Play it on the hardest setting on hardcore mode and try to get through the game without dying once.TreflisThis. Playing on the hardest difficulty isn't just as easy as needing to use more bullets. I really doubt you have played it on "very hard" for a while for this very reason. Enemies also get tons of more opportunities to inflict damage whuch can be devastating to you. Playing on a harder difficulty you have to pick your fights, and the fights you do pick you need to have a plan. Maybe you can just keep shooting that mole rat 'till its dead (although I still avoid them) but you better think twice about confronting raiders or a gang. With hardcore mode enabled you lso just can't keep instantly healing every few seconds.
EDIT: And if you played hardcore you wouldn't even be able to carry around so much ammo.
This. Playing on the hardest difficulty isn't just as easy as needing to use more bullets. I really doubt you have played it on "very hard" for a while for this very reason. Enemies also get tons of more opportunities to inflict damage whuch can be devastating to you. Playing on a harder difficulty you have to pick your fights, and the fights you do pick you need to have a plan. Maybe you can just keep shooting that mole rat 'till its dead (although I still avoid them) but you better think twice about confronting raiders or a gang. With hardcore mode enabled you lso just can't keep instantly healing every few seconds.[QUOTE="Treflis"]Play it on the hardest setting on hardcore mode and try to get through the game without dying once.LightR
EDIT: And if you played hardcore you wouldn't even be able to carry around so much ammo.
I have played on VH many times, especially in F3 - I started some games on it. I found it tedious because shooting mole rats over and over is just retarded and lazy game design for 'difficulty', but I never found the enemies very difficult at all. Snipe with lincoln repeater, run in between rocks, fire bursts with Chinese Assault Rifle; repeat.I can see how it might be really easy, but you'd have to be trying to break the game to do that. It's been known for more than a decade that an uber-sniper is the best possible build in any Fallout game, and that hasn't changed. Just try a different build out for once and give yourself a challenge.
I thought Fallout 3 was pretty good as far as difficulty. It started you out ridiculously underpowered, but after a while everything went along pretty normally. New Vegas is screwy though. Most enemies can be killed easily, except for a few that seem damned near invincible and really require Anabelle or something with a huge amount of power. I'm finally at level 20 or so now and after cleaning out the gun store in Freeside and getting a huge number of caps from all that stuff, I'm doing pretty well. The whole game is just a pale imitation of Fallout 3 though - real milking the franchise stuff. I won't be buying anything else made by Obsidian ever again, that's for sure.
This. Playing on the hardest difficulty isn't just as easy as needing to use more bullets. I really doubt you have played it on "very hard" for a while for this very reason. Enemies also get tons of more opportunities to inflict damage whuch can be devastating to you. Playing on a harder difficulty you have to pick your fights, and the fights you do pick you need to have a plan. Maybe you can just keep shooting that mole rat 'till its dead (although I still avoid them) but you better think twice about confronting raiders or a gang. With hardcore mode enabled you lso just can't keep instantly healing every few seconds.[QUOTE="Treflis"]Play it on the hardest setting on hardcore mode and try to get through the game without dying once.LightR
EDIT: And if you played hardcore you wouldn't even be able to carry around so much ammo.
I second (or third?) both of those comments. Hardcore mode + Hardest difficulty isn't just tougher enemies, it's also a lot tougher to find weapons and caps lying around, so it really feels even more rewarding when you find stuff or take down a tough enemy.
New Vegas was substantially harder than 3 I felt. The only really difficult enemies in the game though are Death Claws and Cazadores. Death Claws because they ignore your armor and so hit you for ridiculous damage and Cazadores because their poison is also ridiculous.
I thought NV was both better and more difficult than Fallout 3, but in any case, it's still flippin' easy. Seriously, the fact that Perception and Charisma are USELESS except for some perks (you only need a 6 for Sniper, even then) makes character building pretty trivial.New Vegas was substantially harder than 3 I felt. The only really difficult enemies in the game though are Death Claws and Cazadores. Death Claws because they ignore your armor and so hit you for ridiculous damage and Cazadores because their poison is also ridiculous.
Kiro0
If you actually follow the game flow, sure it's easy, if you don't it's challenging on early-mid game.
You can challenge yourself too you know, go in place you aren't supposed to. I had the Legion assassins after me extremely early and they were a major problem until i leveled up and got some companions. However, the game does get a bit too easy after the mid-game where you can't wander off and end up in nasty critters anymore.
As far as stats and skills goes, it's also a roleplaying game, a lot of the enjoyment of the game comes from there rather than combat. Some stats and skills are more geared towards that rather than making you better at killing stuff and using a powergaming build will make you miss out on those elements.
In any case, too easy? Go for mods.
No, you don't miss out on it. You can have a 1 Perception and a 1 Charisma and still have a 100 Speech and related skills. There is NO DOWNSIDE. Most of the SPECIAL stats do NOTHING for you unless you're a herp-a-derp that can't allocate points.If you actually follow the game flow, sure it's easy, if you don't it's challenging on early-mid game.
You can challenge yourself too you know, go in place you aren't supposed to. I had the Legion assassins after me extremely early and they were a major problem until i leveled up and got some companions. However, the game does get a bit too easy after the mid-game where you can't wander off and end up in nasty critters anymore.
As far as stats and skills goes, it's also a roleplaying game, a lot of the enjoyment of the game comes from there rather than combat. Some stats and skills are more geared towards that rather than making you better at killing stuff and using a powergaming build will make you miss out on those elements.
In any case, too easy? Go for mods.
Cenerune
Part of it is that such a huge and open game has to err on the side of easy to guarantee that all playstyles are possible.
For example a character with high CHA who depends on party members to do most of the fighting.
Or a sniper character who for RP reasons won't use shotguns or assault rifles.
They can't make it such that you need a minigun to get thru parts of the game, while at the same time ensuring that if you DO have a minigun, it'll be great fun to mow thru crowds.
This type of balance is harder to achieve that one would think, and as I said they err on the side of easy to facilitate "gimp" builds.
If you set the slider to hard, and play in hardcore mode, it's definitely not easy.
Heck I played on medium and some battles were touchy, especially Deathclaws which killed me so many times.
No, you don't miss out on it. You can have a 1 Perception and a 1 Charisma and still have a 100 Speech and related skills. There is NO DOWNSIDE. Most of the SPECIAL stats do NOTHING for you unless you're a herp-a-derp that can't allocate points.beast_oftheeast
Perception affects targeting accuracy and radar threat indicator.
Charisma affects companion DPS.
Well, the game sure isn't hard, that's true. But it's not like it's super easy compared to most other games. I've died just as much in Fallout 3 as any other game that isn't the likes of DMC4, NG or what have you. All other games I find pretty easy anyway.
That said, SPECIAL does do something? If you raise Endurance for example you get more health. Raising Strength makes you carry more items etc.
Also, I don't think Fallout 3 is a game that's supposed to be hard. I think it's supposed to be just regular, if a bit easy (I'm playing on Very Hard). I think it's more about the atmosphere, exploring and the experience as a whole. Also, scavaging is probably the biggest draw of the game. Because make no mistake, if you don't loot stuff and go out preparred, you will die. Having no food or Stimpacks makes the game quite hard at certain times.
But like I said, I don't think it's supposed to be a hard game and that's cool. A game doesn't need to be hard in order to be fun. Infact, extremely easy games can be fun too. Like God of War, Darksiders, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect etc. etc. all great games and fun to play.
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