Do you think game developers need to spend more time...

they should? yes

they will? no

u answered yourself, you are still gonna buy it because its madden, so why waste time and money in developement if you are still gonna buy it, thats the general mindset of developers, just look a cod, they are still throwing the same effin game for the 5th time and people still but it like crazy.

Not really. I think the big problem is that publishers tell them to make their games very similar to whatever game is making the most money at any given point in time. I think developers, if left to their own devices, can make some truly fantastic games. Of course football is football - you can't change it all up and still have it be football.

Personally I've never seen fans give much useful input into what changes should be made to a game. They say "I want this" but never stop to think what all the ramifications of that change would be, and how it would screw up ten other things because it's all inter-connected.

Yes...

But gaming is an industry, and the motto that i have always been taught is..If it aint broke dont fix it...

When i went to school for game design, all my teachers told me this.. If it makes money dont waste your time on making it better.

It not neccsarly the devs fault, its the company that pays for the devs to make it. If EA wants Madden to be out every year thats not a whole lot of time to make any major changes so its hard. The gaming industry is a buissness never forget that..

I say they listen too much to what some says they wants.

well to me it depends on the type of game like monster hunter for example. they put in new weapons new armor new monsters updated graphics but aside from all of that the attacks can still be slow the game can be overly fustrating and the camera all of these games yet still no lock on that is one thing that makes monster hunter fans angry hopefully monster hunter portable 3rd will have lock on

football is football - you can't change it all up and still have it be football.

Personally I've never seen fans give much useful input into what changes should be made to a game. They say "I want this" but never stop to think what all the ramifications of that change would be, and how it would screw up ten other things because it's all inter-connected.

Jackc8

Yea gamers are clueless as to what works & what they want. They just demand random things with very unrealistic expectations with nothing real to offer.

You ask gamers what they want form a game. Treyarch & IW always ask the fans what they wantfrom cods MP? Here's what it looks like & the reaction from the full game:

Developer- "what do you want & what dont you want?"

Gamer-"more customization, more killstreaks, better perks, more balance [keep in mind they just demanded the same game . . . . again]. Dont want vehicles or BF like gameplay

Black Ops Release day, gamer-" Screw this its the same game" [with absolutely everythinghe asked for]

Yeah, most gamers don't really know what to ask for. Not every game company and sort through all the garbage most fans come up with to find a winning idea. Besides, these guys get paid to come up with new stuff and sometimes they do a good job at it. But I do also feel the aggrivation of having to play the same types of games over and over, but you know what? If you don't want that, then protest by not buying the game. Then they will realize something has to change again.

Most gamers think they know what they want but not what they really want.

When i went to school for game design, all my teachers told me this.. If it makes money dont waste your time on making it better.

shureshot24

And there in lines a fundamental failing of any industry based on creativity. You make more of the same because it makes money and we buy it because you've given us few choices.

This is why it is arguable that if you have played one FPS you've played almost all of them.The wide spread similiaritymight have somethingto do with why so manycanchat via typing with a buddy over a social media program while playing. You're playing onautopilot. Oh,feel free to change out FPS with any othergenre.

Most gamers think they know what they want but not what they really want.

wiouds

This is probably why so many people turn away from Psychonauts when it first came out and refused to group with a Mesmer in Guild Wars when it was first released. We say we want change but when it arrives .... poof .... where did everyone go?

I have two things I'd like to see.

1. Stability - People like to blame hardware and software configurations. Just think about it for a minute. 2 CPU developers, 2 video card developers, really only one sound card standard. The main resources that games draw from have only a few flavors. Its hard to believe they can't really ensure a game will run decently on these parts *cough*Rage*cough*. That and I'm sick of paying $50 for a game that does not work. Imagine how much damage you might be able to do to priacy if the majority of the industry had a reputation of releasing stable games.

2. Change - Yes, change but in small doses. Psychonauts was ignored for a long time before people started to realizethat it is anawesome game. The Mesmer class in Guild Wars was original feared because it was nothing like any other RPG class. These days, the mesmer is everywhere. I would like to see developers add at least one unique element to each game. Its a small investment that could pay off really big.

Not really. I think the big problem is that publishers tell them to make their games very similar to whatever game is making the most money at any given point in time. I think developers, if left to their own devices, can make some truly fantastic games. Of course football is football - you can't change it all up and still have it be football.

Personally I've never seen fans give much useful input into what changes should be made to a game. They say "I want this" but never stop to think what all the ramifications of that change would be, and how it would screw up ten other things because it's all inter-connected.

Jackc8

I 2nd.