Controversial Opinions

Here's a few of mine (feel free to add yours down below)

N64 Overrated (every aspect especially the library)

Super Nintendo Underrated (every aspect & for how innovative it was)

FPS genre lacking innovation (splatoon is cool however)

E-Sports is a joke (at least calling it a sport is)

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• Resident Evil 7 is the worst RE game.
• Far Cry 5 is the most fun open world game of this gen so far.
• Bad Company 2 is not the best BF game Battlefield 2 is.
• Mirror's Edge Catalyst is Dice's best game of this generation.
• Call of Duty 4 is overrated trash it's influence dumbed down great games like Medal of Honor, Battlefield ect..
• Splinter Cell Conviction is a awesome game.
• Watch Dogs is better then WD2 especially in terms of combat and characters.
• Silent Hill Shattered Memories is the best SH game.
• Sleeping Dogs is better then any Watch Dogs or Saints Row game.
• LA.Noire doesn't get enough love and is better then most AAA games today.
• VR is not a gimmick and is easily the most impressive thing in tech and gaming today.
• Witcher 3 is overrated and the graphics look dated already.
• The version of Frank West from Dead Rising 4 is the best Frank he reminds me of Bruce Campbell.
• 4K is overrated I find AI Esrgan HQ textures more impressive.
• 99 percent of indy games are boring and worthless.
• Fallout 3 is overrated
• DMC 2013 is the best DMC game.
• GTAV remaster verisons look better then the Witcher 3 and is a much better game.
• Mafia 2 is best in the series.
• The Tomb Raider reboot 2013 is the best in the series.
• The Prey reboot was trash the oringal Prey is a million times better.

Is Prey a reboot? I heard the original Prey game is totally unrelated to the newer one.

You are right.

Motion controls are better than traditional ones.

The Last of Us gameplay has much to be desired.

Fallout 3 is the worst Bethesda game I've had the pleasure of playing. (did not play FO76)

Majority of gamers have themselves to blame for micro-transations and the lootbox model flourishing as the industry standard.

Vanquish is the best cover based shooter ever made.

Tekken 7 is a disgrace to the franchise, and peeked at TTT2.

Splatoon 2 is the best exclusive game on Switch.

Bioware can tell stories but not make fun games. Anthem confirms this.

DmC was not a bad game, it was just Heavenly Sword 2.0.

Katamari Damashii is the best game you'll never play.

The Witcher III has a fanbase-modern equivalent to The Last of Us.

Openworld games are usually an excuse for lazy/ bad level design.

Tetris is the only fundamentally perfect video game in creation.

When someone states 'it was good for its time'. Means it was always bad/ meh, and reality finally kicked in.

Sony could learn from Microsoft/ let people play older games without a paywall.

Cutscenes are usually bloated, bad and poorly implemented into games for the sake of 'art'.

Fane is the best NPC in Divinity: Original Sin II.

Uncharted 3 is the worst Uncharted game, attempts to capitalise on U2s success and became a bloated mess.

GoG is better than Steam.

Dead Space was a bleakly traced Resident Evil 4, with EAs physic engine.

Red Dead Redemption 2 forgot to be a fun game.

Mods don't make all games better. Time consuming and rarely worth the effort.

Outlast and Alien: Isolation are not Survival Horror games.

Switch needs a better battery. It's barely a handheld.

God of War (IV/ Dad of Boi) is not the best God of War game.

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze is the best 2D Platformer developed for a Nintendo console.

I don't think every game is Dark Souls unlike 95% of the internet.

Capcom was never overall "crap".

Many Mobile games are actually good.

Tearaway is one of Sonys best exclusives of all time.

Keyboard and mouse is the best part of P.C. gaming, not checking a FPS counter.

@worlds_apart: That would make it a reboot.

Persona 5 is not the best Persona game but it definitely one of the best JRPG in recent years,.

The Atari 2600 joystick will hurt your hand after 30 minutes of play.

The Commodore 64 was not a personal computer, it’s a console with a keyboard.

Nintendo is the only reason people buy Nintendo consoles. 3rd party developers have always made bad or weakest games for Nintendo consoles.

The SNES was not a proper generational leap. Genesis was.

The PS1 was a horrible console. It’s hits were mostly jrpgs which aren’t videogames.

The N64 has the worst controller in gaming history.

The PS2 held back gaming innovation and barely felt next gen.

The original Xbox is the most innovative console ever built.

GameCube and GBA connectivity was an extremely underrated innovation for couch play. Sadly, only two games of note took advantage of it properly - PacMan and Link 4 Swords.

Halo 1 and 2 were equally the best game’s of their generation.

Square Enix was the worst developer in gaming.

The PS3’s best selling point was backwards compatibility.

Move is the worst gaming peripheral ever built.

Thanks to bad Wii motion controls, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are the worst additions to the franchise.

Ridge Racer 6 on the Xbox 360 was the best of the franchise. 7 on the ps3 was the worst.

Dance Central 1, 2, 3, Spotlight are the only good game’s to ever release for the Kinect.

The ps4 is nothing more than a beefier Xbox 360.

Halo MCC is the best gaming value in history...about a year after launch.

The Smart Pistol (Titanfall) is the most unbalanced and unfair weapon in multiplayer gaming history.

Thanks to Squre Enix buying Eidos properties, they are no longer the worst publisher in the industry.

Forza Horizon 3 and 4 are the best arcade racers ever.

The Xbox One X is the most jealousy inducing console in gaming history.

The Switch is not a home console and shouldn’t be pitted against the Xbox One or PS4 in sales discussions.

No one game’s on a PC in their living room so claiming it’s a better alternative to console gaming is silly.

@RSM-HQ: haha!

what type of game do you class alien isolation as?

I dont think N64 overrated and FPS lacking innovation is that controversial. If you did not like Nintendo stuff like Mario or platformer in general, its a pretty skippable console. FPS part the genre is oversaturated.

Anyhow mine is;

• Xenoblade Chronicles is not that amazing, story is very bloated
• Final Fantasy 6 is not in my top 3 best Final Fantasy ever, Not even in Top 5
• Mario is rehash, every game is the same
• GoW ps2 is an average hack & slash game
• Okami is the best Zelda game ever made
• RE3 is better than RE2
• Witcher 3 Gwent is not that fun
• Witcher 3 Combat is terrible, and reviewers should have docked points for combat
• Persona 5 has pretty bad story pacing
• MGSV is the best MGS ever
• Zelda BotW weapon degradation is utter crap mechanic
• Infamous Second Son was a very mediocre game
• I want more Dragon Ball Games
• Bloodborne is better than All Souls game

@sakaixx: Agree about Okami, disagree about MGSV.

@worlds_apart: I agree with this, first prey was better, but was extremely easy.

@sakaixx: Disagree with MGS 5 being the best. I think MGS 4 is the best which is also a controversial opinion.

When I say unrelated I mean the newer Prey could have been named another name, I don't know why they named it Prey, they have nothing to do with each other, unlike say Devil May Cry and DmC.

PS3 was better than the PS4.

Damn that hurts me

@mandzilla said:

@sakaixx: Agree about Okami, disagree about MGSV.

@robbie23 said:

@sakaixx: Disagree with MGS 5 being the best. I think MGS 4 is the best which is also a controversial opinion.

contemplated between MGS3, MGS4 or MGS5 being the best, I avoided fan theories so Venom Snake is a fake reveal was a good one. Spending around 150+ hours getting into top 5000 online base building with many S++ on all field, platinum trophy was also a factor lol.

@sakaixx: Just my opinion of course haha. :)

My main arguments in favour of the PS3 are that I feel like the UI was cleaner, more new IPs launched for it, multiplats were better back then (really subjective though), greater multimedia features (believe it's still one of the best 3D bluray players you can get?), full backwards compatability with the PS1 and access to the majority of the best PS2 games through HD collections, longer Dual Shock battery life, more diverse exclusives lineup, nice social software like PS Home, free online, quicker downloads and no mandatory installs.

Really I'd say the PS3 is a very underrated console, and perhaps the second best Playstation after the PS2.

Hey that's awesome that you got the platinum for it, I'm impressed lol. I agree that MGS5 is a fantastic game, and by far the most ambitious in terms of gameplay. Just in relation to the other entries in the series I don't think it's the best 'Metal Gear Solid' game if that makes sense. Stuff like the storyline, character development and epic boss battles are what come to mind for me when I think of Metal Gear.

I'd rank them MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4=MGS5.

@ineedabetterone:

I agree that Esport is a total joke and that the N64 is grossly overrated. Here are mine.

*Jrpgs are better than Western Rpgs in the story department.

*Witcher 3 is overrated and has shitty combat.

*Dark Souls and Boodborne need an easy mode because the games are almost impossible.

*Halo under 343i plays 1,000 times better than it ever did under Bungie.

*Saints Row 2 and 4 are better than most GTA games before 5.

*God of War trilogy should be completely remade with the God of War 4 gameplay.

*Shadow of the Tomb Raider is the best in the Reboot trilogy.

*Older Spiderman games have better combat than Spiderman ps4.

*Uncharted has better gunplay than the Tomb Raider Reboot trilogy.

*Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is extremely overrated. And is the worst Zelda game in the series.

*Resident Evil 2 Remake is the best game in the series so far.

@infamy:

Every Persona game is a separate story in itself. Just like the Final Fantasy games. But the biggest difference is that they're all in the same world and the games try to keep the same fundamentals with improvements over time.

@RSM-HQ: I feel like half your points are not controversial, but actually quite popular

The best thing about the PS3 now is that it's a PS1

@Macutchi: While use to call them Hide n' Seek games, I've been calling them Stealth Horror for sometime now. Because they're not quite the baseline of either Tactical Stealth, or Survival Horror.

Just think these games would benefit more for being acknowledged as something different. It alienates the already niche installbase of Survival Horror, and I find it rare people enjoy both. It's either one or the other. They are different experiences and have different focuses on gameplay and structure_

It's heavily subjective and controversial anyway yet if Battle Royale can get its own genre by tweaking a third person death match. I see no logical reason why Outlast is still compared to Resident Evil, despite sharing almost nothing in common. Horror themes doesn't connect all these games together, otherwise D00M, Bloodborne and Dark Souls would all be Survival Horror as well.

@xantufrog said: I feel like half your points are not controversial, but actually quite popular

Thanks dood, however I see most being less than popular personally from a broad range. Fandoms have a tendency to be set in their ways. And many these examples are based on past gaming conversations.

to me hide and seek doesn't do it justice as it fails to acknowledge the horror element and the game clearly has been designed to scare the player. horror stealth would fit i guess but in the most literal sense the premise of alien isolation is survival horror.

it's interesting you see alien isolation as alienating (the irony!) the survival horror fanbase. assuming you class games like resident evil or evil within as survival horror, what makes them more worthy of the title than a game like alien isolation?

Who disagrees with this? I want them locked up, they are not to be trusted!

Spicey takes -

MS > NES

Bioshock 2 > Others

RE5 > RE4

Steam Controller > XbawX Controller

Photorealism mostly sucks

Well let's use the ones you selected. Survival Horror games are heavy on choices. Not just two roads, but what you pick up, order, and the how.

Inventory management, and giving player choices for continuing is part the genre. Has been since Alone in the Dark. Actions have consequences. In both those games it doesn't just reflect your avatar, but also reflects the survive ability of NPC characters, which changes events depending on outcome.

Nearby screams (The Evil Within has a woman being dragged to hang, Resident Evil has Rebecca Chambers cornered by a Hunter); you may choose to ignore and save ammunition, 'it's not your objective so why bother?' is just one scenario in both Resident Evil and The Evil Within. And just like that, a character dies and you move forward, no game over but does this change anything? (yes)

If someone didn't grow on Survival Horror games like Silent Hill, Demento, Siren and Resident Evil. I understand looking at it from the other-end stating "you think Aliens: Isolation isn't good enough?" When really that's not my point, and never was.

It's the same reason no one calls Symphony of the Night and Super Metroid 2D Platformers. They have a genre around them for what they did/ do differently. And the different gameplay experience.

I wouldn't take my opinion on Aliens and Outlast at heart anyway. And to be honest we've had this conversation a few times before haha. Finished Alien: Isolation, and that was the last I would play of that kind of Horror game. Did prefer it over Outlast. I can see the appeal, but didn't personally click with what it offered, or what I expected the game to offer.

@judaspete said: Who disagrees with this? I want them locked up, they are not to be trusted!

- FFVIII is the best Final Fantasy

- Xenosaga > Xenogears

- Dark Cloud > Dark Cloud 2

- Physical > Digital

- Ni No Kuni 2 was a great game. Combat was fun and it didn't take itself too seriously. Just not as good as the first one.

- Sonic > Mario

- Square Enix is far from worst in the industry. That title belongs to one of Microsoft's 1st party developers. FFXV scored 8's across the board and sold well. Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Quest XI, Octopath Traveler all scored and sold great btw

yeah know i was just curious about why one "flavour" of survival horror was more deserving of the title than others and why that particular flavour may polarise fans of the genre.

i don't doubt it lol. it must be that time of year again!

errr *raises hand sheepishly.

i luuuuuurve vanquish but if pressed i think i'd take the original gears of war over it. it was one of those "you needed to have been there at the time" type games. utterly captivating.

uh oh!

Well the whole point on genres is for classification, and at least knowing somewhat the gameplay is offering. As stated with CastleVania and Metroid having a sub-genre. I think it would benefit both audiences personally.

These thoughts are not just for myself, imagine a younger Gamer who's first 'Survival Horror' game was Outlast. Plays the new ResiRemake2 "what is this #¥%$" I can imagine being a common opinion for someone who hasn't played games like The Evil Within, Silent Hill, etc.

i luuuuuurve vanquish but if pressed i think i'd take the original gears of war over it. it was one of those "you needed to have been there at the time" type games. utterly captivating.

Gears of War is great, really like the second game. Yet I feel horde mode was bettered by Splatoon 2. And Vanquish just mechanically offers so much strategy and possibilities. Also just love the raw speed of scenarios. I recall a few years back with The Last of Us fans calling that the standard. Nothing against Naughty Dog but they are more a balanced package than delivering the best gameplay in the business.

uh oh!

Remember,

it's just a 'controversial opinions' thread, easy. No need for more newspaper beatings. .

It's also a shadow-stab at @Jackamomo for the Ultima thread lol. I'm shocked he hasn't submitted to a thread like this honestly.

@RSM-HQ:

Sevenizz Nintendo is the only reason people buy Nintendo consoles. 3rd party developers have always made bad or weakest games for Nintendo consoles.

The SNES was not a proper generational leap. Genesis was.

The PS2 held back gaming innovation and barely felt next gen.

^ Those are my unpopular opinions but they're not really unpopular. Just outnumbered by the Nintendo forum defence league.

I would say the SNES is the worst console ever made.

But it's the direction Sony and Nintendo steered gaming that get's my goat the most.

I am disappoint in modern gaming.

The only new ideas have to be begged for on Kickstarter to get money or are made by one one guy in his room who has to literally make a new game concept and release is his or herself in order to get something original into the market.

@jackamomo:

I would say the SNES is the worst console ever made.

The Super Nintendo/ Sūpā Famicom does have frame rate issues, and a lot of the games do seem to dip heavily. Looking at Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts and Demon's Blazon. And I state that who first played a Kirby game on that very system. From what I can gather overall what SEGA offered had more optimised games, Think both have a good selection to offer at any case. Even then I do favor Segas line of games slightly more.

Not sure if you share that platform bias as your quoter? @Sevenizz certainly does, if you look at his history he's kind of been a walking meme here since he joined; and has even made Alts just to agree with himself. That's far from a popular opinion, in the real world we call it denial.

I am disappointed in modern gaming.

To be honest I can see this to a certain extent. Know I've joked how you watch Youtube videos over actually ever playing games (Armored Core, Monster Hunter, Suikoden, Resident Evil, list never ending)

But it is our/my generation that has strengthened games releasing unfinished, an abundance seemingly stagmented, and gaming services around drying wallets over raw gaming entertainment. In many ways it is more reliable to be a retro gamer than dive into the modern library_

Great games still exist however the customer has to be more intuitive and invest in researching who's both developing and publishing these games a lot of the time to get a decent gaming experience.

Those who ever think Sumo Digital will make a good game (for example) will always be disappointed.

The only new ideas have. .

Going to stop you here, I've mentioned Tearaway to you before. It has great ideas, you just stated it "looked stupid". Ironically many clearly thought that also, that's why it couldn't even sell a million copies on two platforms. If you want to know why these 'new ideas' don't flourish the market? It's because you think they're stupid. And that's a quick 'case closed' mentality. As mentioned in my own controversial opinions, You (the customers) for the majority are the problem, not the developers when it comes to new ideas.

I recall you also stating Katamari Damashii was stupid as well (just to throw more truth from my list), also had great ideas, sold terribly. Was a PS2 game for the record_

The market lacks innovation because the market, or demographics that could benefit these developers is few and uncommon. You the customer don't want those kind of experiences. And prefer things as they are.

With that, while I like games that test concepts that work. I'm personally someone who just likes refinement and craftmanship more than anything else in a game, over a wondering mind that usually doesn't have the skills to put paper to code.

have to be begged for on Kickstarter to get money

I've backed a few games, glad to state all the ones that did are pretty good, my last one that released was ToeJam and Earl: Back in the Groove

More a retro callback though personally think it betters the original_

Also despite what you may believe; Divinity Original Sin II was a huge success, and honestly if you put past your spite for modern games I think you would have a great time with the game.

At anycase that list is small for you, expected more. I come across as more a Cynic than you. . Which frankly makes me question my own alacrity.

@RSM-HQ: ‘@Sevenizz certainly does, if you look at his history he's kind of been a walking meme here since he joined; and has even made Alts just to agree with himself. That's far from a popular opinion, in the real world we call it denial.’

Umm, come again? You got proof of these so-called ‘alts’ where I agree with myself? Maybe you need to look at my post history and discover that most people like to argue with me.

@RSM-HQ Tetris is the only fundamentally perfect video game in creation.

I love this sentence. I have, just now, in my mind, created a new game which is better than Tetris, if not as simple.

I can't tell you guys because this one is worth bank, sorry.

Don't come to me and tell me that new Toejam and Earl game is superior to the Mega Drive original - I will scoff at you.

Columns?

@uninspiredcup: Combining Tetris and the scrolling shooter genre. You shoot blocks as they fall. I don't think it's been done.

It's not controversial though. Unless it divides the gaming press. It might...

Haha_

Ok Peter Molyneux.

Then again I would reread what I posted. 'fundamentally perfect' is the key here. I'm sure many think other games are 'better'. Better is heavily subjective and catering. It's difficult to find a game with flawless fundamentals like Tetris. But would gladly read a competitor, Won't be as easy as one thinks.

Don't come to me and tell me that new Toejam and Earl game is superior to the Mega Drive original - I will scoff at you.

Well you are great at giving opinions to games you'll never play. I'm personally a fan of the original and the new game. The second was not that good.

*Less than controversial, Mech Warrior as a series deserved to die. Survival of the fittest. MW is clunky, poorly designed, barely sold anything, and offered nothing more than nostalgia towards a niche group who never played a From Software mech game. At least now P.C. only players get Metal Wolf Chaos.

@RSM-HQ: Yeah. The exploration game of the first TjE game was unique and fun. The platform game missed what was good about the first game. I kept the humour but lacked the charm. Also, you have gone from randomly generated 3d worlds to "omg another platform game for Mega Drive like we needed that."

As far as the Tetris-shooter hybrid game. It's difficult but it can be done and could be a hit.

Game designers can have this one for free. Blast blocks away, secondary weapon drops block shapes. Clever, no?

Did not see you mention the concept previously. Some games seem better on paper than in function at anyrate. Like Anthem.

Didn't win me with that pitch honestly. Reads like a cross between Space Invaders and Tetris, which removes a lot of the function behind the puzzle aspect.

Adding to Tetris or having a twist is nothing new, and had very mixed results, some being well received (Pazuru Boburu, Candy Crush, Puyo Puyo, Columns, Lumines, Critter Crunch). Some prefer clones or hybrids, I like quite a few of them. But the majority, myself included favor the classic Tetris structure.

Part of Tetris appeal is its simplicity. Only difficulty in Tetris is the block speed increases over time, everything else is self conceived. Because of this fundamentally Tetris is most raw form of challenge, risk, and reward in gaming. Adding gimmicks tends to only dwindle that experience into something shallow.

I'm sure you've got many other ideas in the afterburner. Till then; maybe add a sales hook to your Shooter Tetris, like rainbow vomit

omg another platform game for Mega Drive like we needed that.

lol I agree. Played the SEGA retro collection on PS3. And was very fed up with a lot of the platformers.

Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic 1, and Vectorman are very fun though. Wouldn't go back to the others.

Adding to Tetris or having a twist is nothing new

Really?

Part of Tetris appeal is its simplicity

Do go on.

I can't reveal all the details of the gameplay but it's not space invaders it's a vertically scrolling shooter and it's very simple.

I actually designed it for a handheld device.

Persona 3 FES is the best Persona game ever made, plot wise.

Front Mission 4 is the best FM game. 3 is too simple while 5 is too complex.

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel is the best Borderlands game or at least better than most people claimed.

haha, suppose that was the most oblivious statement of the day.

Look forward to seeing the product.

@RSM-HQ: i might do it in html5 and sell it to a free game website.

Keep us updated Jackamomo, and best of luck with your games.

The mini-map on BLPS is fucking terrible and that is what holds it back for me

For controversial
The Last of Us is overrated

@infamy: Not necessary. All the games are connected only in that they revolve around the same universe, but each story is unique.