Bethesda Teasing Fallout 4?

Fallout 4: The Buggening?

I think Bethesda is really getting Geared up for Next Gen. If they do announce Fallout 4 that will be 3 games already in the making for Next Gen, which is awesome.

I sure hope so. A next gen Fallout game would be crazy awesome. :DArchangel3371

Yeah I'd be ready for a new one on the next gen consoles or PC. New Vegas was such a great game.

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I sure hope so. A next gen Fallout game would be crazy awesome. :Dlozengez

Yeah I'd be ready for a new one on the next gen consoles or PC. New Vegas was such a great game.

I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

My  favorite game series.  Where do I preorder it?

Bethesda is awesome, but I never really got into the Fallout series.

My favorite game series. Where do I preorder it?

capaho

its not up for pre order imo.

Unless they overhaul the combat system I'm no longer interested. v.a.t.s. kill the immersion for me

Unless the overhaul the combat system I'm no longer interested. v.a.t.s. kill the immersion for meBlack_Knight_00

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Unless the overhaul the combat system I'm no longer interested. v.a.t.s. kill the immersion for mecapaho

Nah the gorn was great.

The combat system was rather frustrating if your weapons skill rating was low. I tended to focus on just a couple of weapons and bring the skill levels up on those. Once you max out the skill level on a particular type of weapon it becomes rather effective. The real draw of the series for me, though, was the RPG aspect and the huge open world.capaho

I used the chinese assault rifle and the automatic shotgun throughout the whole game and still the immersion factor suffered, even with combat skill maxed out. That's something they should be able to fix fairly easily though. I mean: the combat system in Oblivion was light years better than the one in Morrowind and the same can be said for Skyrim, a few quirks aside. Here's hoping they will make the shooting feel a little more natural and believable.

Black_Knight_00

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I used the chinese assault rifle and the automatic shotgun throughout the whole game and still the immersion factor suffered, even with combat skill maxed out. That's something they should be able to fix fairly easily though. I mean: the combat system in Oblivion was light years better than the one in Morrowind and the same can be said for Skyrim, a few quirks aside. Here's hoping they will make the shooting feel a little more natural and believable.

capaho

I'm amazed they left VATS in the game at all. With how little the game felt like a Fallout title keeping VATS was a terrible decision. They should have just focused on making the first person shooting enjoyable. VATS just took you out of the action and made the game incredibly easy, it's no longer a strategy game where VATS has any real purpose other than to remove you from the action (and in Fallout 3 and NV there is no real reason to bother aiming at anything but the head or thrown grenades anyway), and they somehow had less and worse death animations than Fallout and Fallout 2 so it didn't even work well to show off enemy deaths.

They probably just left it in to try to appeal to old Fallout fans but now that we know how pointless it is they should focus on making the action exciting for the type of gamers they appeal to and stop trying to pretend that it's strategic or role playing focused. If they did that we would all enjoy it a lot more.

I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

Legolas_Katarn

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I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

MonoSilver

[QUOTE="MonoSilver"][QUOTE="Legolas_Katarn"]

I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

Legolas_Katarn

Bethesda are the developer that blow me away with the first game in a series, then it descends into mediority and utter disdain for its absolute tedium and glitches.

I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

Legolas_Katarn

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

EvilSelf

An obvious improvement if they weren't already busy with their own projects and I'd rather not see Bethesda pay them less from a metacritic score again.

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

EvilSelf

This is true. Obsidian are class.

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If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

Legolas_Katarn

An obvious improvement if they weren't already busy with their own projects and I'd rather not see Bethesda pay them less from a metacritic score again.

Certainly! That bonus that was unpaid due to a single metacritic point was a disgrace practice...Shame on Zenimax...

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

EvilSelf

I still think there will be 2 new Fallout games: Fallout 4 and Fallout: New Vegas 2. Or something...

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If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

Blueresident87

I still think there will be 2 new Fallout games: Fallout 4 and Fallout: New Vegas 2. Or something...

The more the better in my view. Provided, they are quality of course. Nwe Vegas just blows Fallout 3 out of the water in my opinion, hence i am voting for Obsidian to further develop the series. J Sawyer and Chris Avellone know the Fallout franchise! They are the rightful heirs to continuing it! Them and Brian Fargo of course (InXile)...

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[QUOTE="EvilSelf"]

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

EvilSelf

I still think there will be 2 new Fallout games: Fallout 4 and Fallout: New Vegas 2. Or something...

The more the better in my view. Provided, they are quality of course. Nwe Vegas just blows Fallout 3 out of the water in my opinion, hence i am voting for Obsidian to further develop the series. J Sawyer and Chris Avellone know the Fallout franchise! They are the rightful heirs to continuing it! Them and Brian Fargo of course (InXile)...

Fallout 3 has a lot of good in it, but yea New Vegas just feels more like a Fallout game. I'd be excited to see something from both teams, because like you said the more the better, and with Fallout I'll always take more.

Fallout 4 would make a killer launch title for next gen consoles. But they really need a whole new engine. 

Bethesda should have some of the guys from id help them with the shooting this time. 

[QUOTE="capaho"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

I used the chinese assault rifle and the automatic shotgun throughout the whole game and still the immersion factor suffered, even with combat skill maxed out. That's something they should be able to fix fairly easily though. I mean: the combat system in Oblivion was light years better than the one in Morrowind and the same can be said for Skyrim, a few quirks aside. Here's hoping they will make the shooting feel a little more natural and believable.

Legolas_Katarn

I'm amazed they left VATS in the game at all. With how little the game felt like a Fallout title keeping VATS was a terrible decision. They should have just focused on making the first person shooting enjoyable. VATS just took you out of the action and made the game incredibly easy, it's no longer a strategy game where VATS has any real purpose other than to remove you from the action (and in Fallout 3 and NV there is no real reason to bother aiming at anything but the head or thrown grenades anyway), and they somehow had less and worse death animations than Fallout and Fallout 2 so it didn't even work well to show off enemy deaths.

They probably just left it in to try to appeal to old Fallout fans but now that we know how pointless it is they should focus on making the action exciting for the type of gamers they appeal to and stop trying to pretend that it's strategic or role playing focused. If they did that we would all enjoy it a lot more.

 I think VATS should be improved rather than removed. It's actually really fun and is an interesting homage to the turn-based isometric style combat of the old Fallout games. It just needs to be implemented better. A good start would be having it's targeting distance and lock-on capability tied directly to your Perception skill to stop people using it as an instant enemy spotter (capable of detecting even invisible enemies) unless they level up the appropriate skill.Cyrez60659

Frankly, I would be surprised if they did away with VATS considering that it's pretty much a signature feature of the game.  I am hoping, though, that they will improve the performance of the conventional combat so that it is more realistic.  That would certainly enchance the value of the game for those of us who aren't interested in using VATS.

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I hope not, we will get nothing but more mediocrity if Bethesda is the developer. If it going to use the same kind of terrible engine and gameplay give it to a studio that has good writers. Better yet give the entire property to someone else so they can make a decent engine less bugs, and decent gameplay then get some good writers on it.

MonoSilver

You think he's trolling? IMO the variants of Gamebryo that Bethesda has used were awkward and terrible. Everyone knows their games are buggy as hell. The stories are no more than a series of vaguely related events. Skyrim's story was 'kill evil monster', and FO3 from what I remember was 'find dad'.

If Obsidian were to develop the next Fallout game, it would be one of the best days of my gaming career. Bethesda should just give rights to Obsidian to further develop the Fallout franchise.

EvilSelf

I totally agree. I literally just finished Alpha Protocol and it had some great and original ideas. FNV had some great ideas as well, like using faction armor to disguise yourself. I also like mutually exclusive factions. I think it's stupid in Elder Scrolls games when you can join every faction and become the leader of all of them. If they have conflicting ideals they should have conflicts and you should have to pick a side.

Obsidian has a reputation for making buggy games but I think that's mostly because they're rushed by the publisher. And to be honest they can't possibly be much worse than Bethesda.

You know nothing, John Snow "Skyrim's story was 'kill evil monster'" Thats the most insane comment about Skyrim i have ever heard... you clearly have no idea what you are talking aboutRedentSC

That basically is Skyrim's story...

All the events in Skyrim are predictable and as straight forward as it gets. There's literally no motivation for any of the characters (including the Dragonborn, which is actually an issue for a game that gives you complete freedom, you HAVE to be the hero whether you like it or not) as they exist as simple archetypes.

The Elder Scrolls lore is fantastic, but let's not confuse that with story.

You know nothing, John Snow "Skyrim's story was 'kill evil monster'" Thats the most insane comment about Skyrim i have ever heard... you clearly have no idea what you are talking aboutRedentSC

You know nothing, John Snow "Skyrim's story was 'kill evil monster'" Thats the most insane comment about Skyrim i have ever heard... you clearly have no idea what you are talking aboutRedentSC

The main story was nothing special it was just a tool to give your character something to do and get him to explore. Games like Elder Scrolls, Fallout, pretty much anything else in that style aren't made to have great main stories the focus is or should be on the world characters, quests, lore, dialogue, interesting exploration. None of the games had that interesting of a main plot by good RPG/Adventure Game/Etc standards.

When people give reasons for disliking or liking games like Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Skyrim based on how terrible the story is I have to wonder how in the world they are playing the game, if they are just ignoring everything and only going form plot point to plot point and then quiting, and when people say they love the games for the great story I have to assume they don't play many or any well written games, watch movies, or read much. I might not like Fallout 3 and have huge problems with Skyrim but the quality of the main story certainly isn't something that factors into that.

The Elder Scrolls lore is fantastic, but let's not confuse that with story.

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I think it's stupid in Elder Scrolls games when you can join every faction and become the leader of all of them.

It was much more difficult in Morrowind when you had to actually be skilled in what the guild cares about to advance in rank. Unlike now when you can be a fighter with almost no magic skill and become the head of the mages guild.

When people give reasons for disliking or liking games like Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Skyrim based on how terrible the story is I have to wonder how in the world they are playing the game, if they are just ignoring everything and only going form plot point to plot point and then quiting, and when people say they love the games for the great story I have to assume they don't play many or any well written games, watch movies, or read much. I might not like Fallout 3 and have huge problems with Skyrim but the quality of the main story certainly isn't something that factors into that.Legolas_Katarn

I wasn't saying whether I liked the games or not, or whether the story was a factor. I did like all of the games regardless of the stories. I was just pointing out that there are legitimate complaints about the game and mentioning them doesn't make someone a troll.

It was much more difficult in Morrowind when you had to actually be skilled in what the guild cares about to advance in rank. Unlike now when you can be a fighter with almost no magic skill and become the head of the mages guild.Legolas_Katarn

I don't understand why they abandoned this idea. You can become Archmage without casting more than a dozen spells. I think you can complete the DB questline without ever sneaking. So dumb.

I wasn't saying whether I liked the games or not, or whether the story was a factor. I did like all of the games regardless of the stories. I was just pointing out that there are legitimate complaints about the game and mentioning them doesn't make someone a troll.

I was clearly talking to the guy I was quoting, the one who said that you were insane and know nothing for posting that it had a story that was just kill monster. Nothing I said really had anything to do with you other than agree that the story was just kind of there.

[QUOTE="Legolas_Katarn"]When people give reasons for disliking or liking games like Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Skyrim based on how terrible the story is I have to wonder how in the world they are playing the game, if they are just ignoring everything and only going form plot point to plot point and then quiting, and when people say they love the games for the great story I have to assume they don't play many or any well written games, watch movies, or read much. I might not like Fallout 3 and have huge problems with Skyrim but the quality of the main story certainly isn't something that factors into that.INF1DEL

I wasn't saying whether I liked the games or not, or whether the story was a factor. I did like all of the games regardless of the stories. I was just pointing out that there are legitimate complaints about the game and mentioning them doesn't make someone a troll.

It was much more difficult in Morrowind when you had to actually be skilled in what the guild cares about to advance in rank. Unlike now when you can be a fighter with almost no magic skill and become the head of the mages guild.Legolas_Katarn

I don't understand why they abandoned this idea. You can become Archmage without casting more than a dozen spells. I think you can complete the DB questline without ever sneaking. So dumb.

[QUOTE="Legolas_Katarn"]When people give reasons for disliking or liking games like Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Skyrim based on how terrible the story is I have to wonder how in the world they are playing the game, if they are just ignoring everything and only going form plot point to plot point and then quiting, and when people say they love the games for the great story I have to assume they don't play many or any well written games, watch movies, or read much. I might not like Fallout 3 and have huge problems with Skyrim but the quality of the main story certainly isn't something that factors into that.INF1DEL

I wasn't saying whether I liked the games or not, or whether the story was a factor. I did like all of the games regardless of the stories. I was just pointing out that there are legitimate complaints about the game and mentioning them doesn't make someone a troll.

It was much more difficult in Morrowind when you had to actually be skilled in what the guild cares about to advance in rank. Unlike now when you can be a fighter with almost no magic skill and become the head of the mages guild.Legolas_Katarn

I don't understand why they abandoned this idea. You can become Archmage without casting more than a dozen spells. I think you can complete the DB questline without ever sneaking. So dumb.

They did it to simplify. That's Skyrim's main downfall, it's far too dumbed down compared to how the ES games used to be.

I was like wtf when they posted this, but now I'm really hoping it is a sort of disguised teaser for Fallout 4.

Fallout 4 is inevitable, and I can't wait to see a next-gen Fallout game. Hopefully there won't be any framerate issues or glitches.

Actually they are making a fallout 4..There has been plenty said an read about it the last few years..There where arrest an stuff about it a few years back..When they scouted a place up north america in boston..So ya it is in the making..