best FPS before the arrival of Halo CE?

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

lol at all the goldeneye fanboys
game has aged so badly
the contorls are awful
the framrate is low

ai is terrible
??

MonkeySpot

So, apparently, is your ability to type like a human being or have any meaningful conversation past the contents of your belly-button, but you don't see us pointing that out unbidden... Do us all a favor - Take your 2002 cellphone-text hipster-speak and blow, would'ja? The adults are trying to talk...

"contorls".

This is what happens when you don't stay in school, kids. Take a GOOD look...

I wonder if you'll get accused of censoring people like I was in this thread

*sits and waits*

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

lol at all the goldeneye fanboys
game has aged so badly
the contorls are awful
the framrate is low

ai is terrible
??

Stefan91x

Deal with it.

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

lol at all the goldeneye fanboys
game has aged so badly
the contorls are awful
the framrate is low

ai is terrible
??

JigglyWiggly_

Deal with it.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Perfect Dark 64, no competition.

It is too bad it doesn't hold up today because of framerate issues and such. If it was remade for PC with new graphics, controls, framerate and online it would be the best FPS ever!

rilpas

there's a 360 port on XBLA

it fixes the all of it's issues as far as I know and improves the graphics

BUT it is only on the 360 :(. Should be on PC ;)

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Perfect Dark 64, no competition.

It is too bad it doesn't hold up today because of framerate issues and such. If it was remade for PC with new graphics, controls, framerate and online it would be the best FPS ever!

NaveedLife

there's a 360 port on XBLA

it fixes the all of it's issues as far as I know and improves the graphics

BUT it is only on the 360 :(. Should be on PC ;)

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Stefan91x"]Do you post another stupid comment again? It depends on the player, the game is not to blame if you are that stupid to play it, you have no skill.

Deal with it.

Stefan91x

Can even be on consolol

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] ?? I can beat you at any fps. Can't beat a quake live pro shafterJigglyWiggly_

Can even be on consolol

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] ?? I can beat you at any fps. Can't beat a quake live pro shafterJigglyWiggly_

Can even be on consolol

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The House of the Dead 2...

Yeah, I know it's not a 'proper' FPS game.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]Ha "pro shafter" your video showed otherwise.

conkertheking1

Can even be on consolol

LOL

I should link pc games section to this.
massive crap storm


bro get on my level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF5hqdc510g

that's what happened when a controller user tried vsing me


But to help your noobness understand
yes, anyone can aim better with mouse and keyboard, however there is no peak limit to how well you can aim.

Most pros use ginormous mousepads so they can move as fast as they want. I use the razer goliathus control L, so does yz50, and most quake pros.

With a controller, if a guy is behind you, you cannot possibly turn fast enough, you're dead.

If you choose extremely high sens, then you cannot hit precision shots.

About quake having no headshots, sure it doesn't. It's way faster paced which makes up for it. If it had headshots the gameplay style would change considerably, in a negative way. The only gun to take advantage of that would be rail.

Which ofc is my favorite weapon, but since the game is so fast paced, all that would end up would be luck headshots.

You can enable headshots if you want though.

Oh and if it's so ez, vs me in quake live. I don't even care what part of the world you live in, I could beat you with 200 ping which is unplayable.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]Ha "pro shafter" your video showed otherwise.

Stefan91x

Can even be on consolol

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If anyone wants to vs me, hit me up.

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Pick a fps and vs me bro.

Can even be on consolol

JigglyWiggly_

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

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If anyone wants to vs me, hit me up.

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

If anyone wants to vs me, hit me up.

JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]Is that a picture of yourself?

Stefan91x

now resorting to raciscm

huahuehuahue

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] say dat to me in rl and c what happens phucker

JigglyWiggly_

"I e queke pro zahfgetr" me bezt in tha world, cheot out mi zhaft.

[QUOTE="conkertheking1"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Pick a fps and vs me bro.

Can even be on consolol

JigglyWiggly_

LOL

I should link pc games section to this.
massive crap storm


bro get on my level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF5hqdc510g

that's what happened when a controller user tried vsing me

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Yes i know your type. You spend all day practicing one single game to be the 'best' but you can't type or spell and have no social skills whatsoever.
Though most Quake players are much better in their minds than they are in reality.
-
If you were any good whatsoever, you'd be playing Quake3, not the noob-mode QL for the modern kids, you just pick on gamepad users because they're all you can beat. I just watched your video and you're nowhere near the skills that are required to rule in Q3. You'll get your butt handed to you with your propensity to miss your target first time.
If you're really using a mouse and keyboard then you suck bigtime, no point having expensive equipment if you can't use it properly.
-
And don't think for one second i'm some kind of uber-Quaker. I enjoy having a life and being good at LOTS of games, not just one type.
Oh and UT99 is better than any Quake there's ever been, one day you might grow up and discover this. I'm not holding my breath.

You know what? There's this button on the side of the browser that makes all the childish crap posts go by like a fart in a fan... Never noticed that before. I can read the comments I choose to, and scan right on by the idiots... Keep disruptively posting, JW. I haven't seen a word of it, although the pics are funny as they go by at 90mph...

I've only stopped to read the comments on FPS, so I haven't stopped much on this last page. If I see JW's animated avatar, the button stays down, and wooooosh! It's GONE. Give it a try folks.

:lol:

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

lol at all the goldeneye fanboys
game has aged so badly
the contorls are awful
the framrate is low

ai is terrible
??

Stefan91x

Deal with it.

He's probably too young to remember when Quake came out and even the best PCs couldn't run it past 10 fps in high resolutions...

It took untill the GL Quake patch came out and a 3D accelerator for it to surpass consoles.

You know what? There's this button on the side of the browser that makes all the childish crap posts go by like a fart in a fan... Never noticed that before. I can read the comments I choose to, and scan right on by the idiots... Keep disruptively posting, JW. I haven't seen a word of it, although the pics are funny as they go by at 90mph...

I've only stopped to read the comments on FPS, so I haven't stopped much on this last page. If I see JW's animated avatar, the button stays down, and wooooosh! It's GONE. Give it a try folks.

:lol:

MonkeySpot

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

lol at all the goldeneye fanboys
game has aged so badly
the contorls are awful
the framrate is low

ai is terrible
??

nameless12345

Deal with it.

He's probably too young to remember when Quake came out and even the best PCs couldn't run it past 10 fps in high resolutions...

It took untill the GL Quake patch came out and a 3D accelerator for it to surpass consoles.

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="conkertheking1"] you do realize pc is the easiest platform to play fps's right. that mouse has good control. But when you play a game like quake where there are no headshots its probably easy to kill people and you must play people who really suck. vs anyone in golden eye so you can cry and whine over the controls and the speed and how there is no reticule BarbaricAvatar

LOL

I should link pc games section to this.
massive crap storm


bro get on my level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF5hqdc510g

that's what happened when a controller user tried vsing me

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Yes i know your type. You spend all day practicing one single game to be the 'best' but you can't type or spell and have no social skills whatsoever.
Though most Quake players are much better in their minds than they are in reality.
-
If you were any good whatsoever, you'd be playing Quake3, not the noob-mode QL for the modern kids, you just pick on gamepad users because they're all you can beat. I just watched your video and you're nowhere near the skills that are required to rule in Q3. You'll get your butt handed to you with your propensity to miss your target first time.
If you're really using a mouse and keyboard then you suck bigtime, no point having expensive equipment if you can't use it properly.
-
And don't think for one second i'm some kind of uber-Quaker. I enjoy having a life and being good at LOTS of games, not just one type.
Oh and UT99 is better than any Quake there's ever been, one day you might grow up and discover this. I'm not holding my breath.

[spoiler]
lol
i don't even play QL that much
I have 18 days or something total playtime and it's my main game.

Also to have good aim you have to be physically fit. Your points are now all invalid.


About Q3 LOL
I'd PREFER q3, but I never played it. The damage system would benefit my playstyle greatly.

Shaft is even stronger, and rail does 100 points.
I am a rail whore and lg whore, I'd love that.

Also you are a joke, once again. I challenge you to any fps.
You would be vsing a guy fatal1ty accused of botting.
r ur jimmies rustled?

Pro quake 3 player and quakecon winner in Q3 zero4 thought i was cheating several times. zero4 was fatal1ty's rival

It's in that picture I posted earlier, here is zero4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwSs6ZzkP5E

Here is fatal1ty hackusin me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXwLk08WL98&hd=1

u r no match

[/spoiler]

above is my response to your joke post

about goldeneye, oh yeah it's aged awfuly

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Stefan91x"]Do you post another stupid comment again? It depends on the player, the game is not to blame if you are that stupid to play it, you have no skill.

Deal with it.

rilpas

He's probably too young to remember when Quake came out and even the best PCs couldn't run it past 10 fps in high resolutions...

It took untill the GL Quake patch came out and a 3D accelerator for it to surpass consoles.

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

He's probably too young to remember when Quake came out and even the best PCs couldn't run it past 10 fps in high resolutions...

It took untill the GL Quake patch came out and a 3D accelerator for it to surpass consoles.

nameless12345

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

I'd say quake aged quite a bit better, I mean, the framerate for it is far better now then it was back then

and the controls can be changed to WASD

and personally, I tried getting into Goldeneye, playing it on a real N64, but I gave up

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

rilpas

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

I'd say quake aged quite a bit better, I mean, the framerate for it is far better now then it was back then

and the controls can be changed to WASD

and personally, I tried getting into Goldeneye, playing it on a real N64, but I gave up

Well, PC will always have the advantage of being upgradable, thus running older (3D) games much better than a console can (including mods, altho some of them can change the original experience completely thus should not count when debating the original game).

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

nameless12345

I'd say quake aged quite a bit better, I mean, the framerate for it is far better now then it was back then

and the controls can be changed to WASD

and personally, I tried getting into Goldeneye, playing it on a real N64, but I gave up

Well, PC will always have the advantage of being upgradable, thus running older (3D) games much better than a console can (including mods, altho some of them can change the original experience completely thus should not count when debating the original game).

in this case it doesn't change the experience though

It's strange though, I don't really have this framerate or control problem when playing saturn or PS1 shooters, but try as I might, I just can't get into goldeneye

I don't know what's so difficult playing FPS games on N64.

Turok controls: C buttons = wasd, analog stick = mouselock

only flaw: inverted controls

Goldeneye controls: analog stick = movement, hold R = aiming, C left and C right = strafing

only flaw: it's difficult to hit a target which is under or above while you moving, yet still possible.

I like to mention, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, both have one of the best aiming sensivity I've ever played on console FPS, such a dream, so easy.

I agree the framerate wasn't the best on FPS games and the N64 in general (basic SDK, awful performance tools) but it's not that bad, for my taste of course. Heck I have no problem playing Perfect Dark even in High Res Mode, sometimes it's laggy, but for the most part the game is playable very well.

I don't know what's so difficult playing FPS games on N64.

Turok controls: C buttons = wasd, analog stick = mouselock

only flaw: inverted controls

Goldeneye controls: analog stick = movement, hold R = aiming, C left and C right = strafing

only flaw: it's difficult to hit a target which is under or above while you moving, yet still possible.

I like to mention, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, both have one of the best aiming sensivity I've ever played on console FPS, such a dream, so easy.

I agree the framerate wasn't the best on FPS games and the N64 in general (basic SDK, awful performance tools) but it's not that bad, for my taste of course. Heck I have no problem playing Perfect Dark even in High Res Mode, sometimes it's laggy, but for the most part the game is playable very well.

Stefan91x

I hate aiming with the face buttons, it's why i don't play FPS games on the PSP or the dreamcast :P

and I just couldn't get into Golden Eye, the overall framerate, the aiming, just not a fan.

I have perfect dark on the 360 (the N64 port, not Perfect dark Zero), with improved controls, online play and better graphics and honestly, I think the game is okay, nothing too great

I don't know what's so difficult playing FPS games on N64.

Turok controls: C buttons = wasd, analog stick = mouselock

only flaw: inverted controls

Goldeneye controls: analog stick = movement, hold R = aiming, C left and C right = strafing

only flaw: it's difficult to hit a target which is under or above while you moving, yet still possible.

I like to mention, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, both have one of the best aiming sensivity I've ever played on console FPS, such a dream, so easy.

I agree the framerate wasn't the best on FPS games and the N64 in general (basic SDK, awful performance tools) but it's not that bad, for my taste of course. Heck I have no problem playing Perfect Dark even in High Res Mode, sometimes it's laggy, but for the most part the game is playable very well.

Stefan91x

Not only it's not difficult, the N64 pad is arguably better than the PS (DualShock) pad for FPS games (despite having just a single analog stick).

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

He's probably too young to remember when Quake came out and even the best PCs couldn't run it past 10 fps in high resolutions...

It took untill the GL Quake patch came out and a 3D accelerator for it to surpass consoles.

nameless12345

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

uh no the framerate is not ok
i play quake at 120+fps
no it's not enjoyable, the ai is broken, the controls blow, and the graphics look like ass.

Quake is not just "brown", it has a blueish and black look.
Graphic animations are better than goldeneye's
primitive ai? It's way better than goldeneye's and it does what it's supposed to do.

Ever seen those hostage rescue missions in goldeneye where your partner's ai keeps dying randomly and you lose the mission?

Quake has limited multiplayer options?

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGWgm0We-f8&t=3m40s

I don't look at games how they were back then, I look at games how they are now and whether they aged badly. Goldeneye has aged like complete garbage.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

but in the end he still has a point, Goldeneye didn't age all that well due to it's framerate

JigglyWiggly_

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

Sure.

Now go play on your 2K$ PC.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

The framerate is acceptable, the controls are okay and the AI does the job.

The game is still enjoyable but of course it's not as important as it once was or to be compared with modern shooters.

Same with Quake with it's brown, blocky, poorly animated graphics, non-existent story, primitive AI ("attack-if-detect" type), limited multi-player options, ect.

It's a classic but it should also be treated as such.

nameless12345

Sure kid.

Now go play on your 2K$ PC.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] uh no the framerate is not ok i play quake at 120+fps no it's not enjoyable, the ai is broken, the controls blow, and the graphics look like ass. Quake is not just "brown", it has a blueish and black look. Graphic animations are better than goldeneye's primitive ai? It's way better than goldeneye's and it does what it's supposed to do. LIMITED MULTIPLAYER OPTIONS? LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmNtOfpR8QJigglyWiggly_

Sure kid.

Now go play on your 2K$ PC.

Deus Ex

Red Faction 1

UT

Battlefield 1942 (launched a few months later in Europe)

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Sure kid.

Now go play on your 2K$ PC.

conkertheking1

[QUOTE="conkertheking1"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] problems being had? i always lol at goldeneye fans thinking they know anything about fps. Second they play another fps they think it's bad because they don't seem to realize they have terrible handeye coordination for tracking/reflex aiming. Oh and I do love dem old games, provided they aged properly, and goldeneye is the perfect example for a game that hasn't aged properly. JigglyWiggly_

Quake basically has the same AI like Goldeneye and most others 90s FPS: enemy detects you, is not abble to take cover and firing at you. Seriously you complaing about escort missions? Sure Quake does a better job.... moment...... Quake has escort missions?:lol:

I still say it's funny that apparently telling someone to take posts like the 4 posts before this one to systerm wars is not okay I guess this is the sort of discussion everyone wants on these boards?rilpas

The topic title invites it.

"Best FPS before the arrival of Halo CE?" is basically the OP saying "Halo is the best FPS evaaaar, but what was there before the greatest?"

And also dedicated FPS gamers tend to be the most er.. opinionated. If you want to see the hairy underbelly of people who honestly believe they're the gaming equivalents of Jesus then make a topic about FPS's and watch the dellusion floooowww. :)

[QUOTE="rilpas"]I still say it's funny that apparently telling someone to take posts like the 4 posts before this one to systerm wars is not okay I guess this is the sort of discussion everyone wants on these boards?BarbaricAvatar

The topic title invites it.

"Best FPS before the arrival of Halo CE?" is basically the OP saying "Halo is the best FPS evaaaar, but what was there before the greatest?"

And also dedicated FPS gamers tend to be the most er.. opinionated. If you want to see the hairy underbelly of people who honestly believe they're the gaming equivalents of Jesus then make a topic about FPS's and watch the dellusion floooowww. :)

actually you see this sort of opinion for just about every genre, I know I have

I just prefer discussions and arguments to be civil... and to actually have arguments, the last few posts in this thread have been nothing but name calling

Console: Goldeneye/Perfect Dark

PC: Quake 3/UT '99

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Stefan91x"]I don't understand one word, must be a egyptian or arabic.

Stefan91x

"I e queke pro zahfgetr" me bezt in tha world, cheot out mi zhaft.

Timesplitters...

Halo did nothing for PC gaming. All it was, was an epic FPS with a good story some great music, it proved that the Xbox was suited to FPS games and it was all played on the most graphically capable console of the time. That's what made Halo so good, but PC games had been better before and after the arrival of Halo.

Halo did nothing for PC gaming. All it was, was an epic FPS with a good story some great music, it proved that the Xbox was suited to FPS games and it was all played on the most graphically capable console of the time. That's what made Halo so good, but PC games had been better before and after the arrival of Halo.

andmcq

Yeah, TC meant what's the best console FPS before Halo. You're right though, PC hands down always had the better FPS games.

[QUOTE="andmcq"]

Halo did nothing for PC gaming. All it was, was an epic FPS with a good story some great music, it proved that the Xbox was suited to FPS games and it was all played on the most graphically capable console of the time. That's what made Halo so good, but PC games had been better before and after the arrival of Halo.

WhySoLimp

Yeah, TC meant what's the best console FPS before Halo. You're right though, PC hands down always had the better FPS games.

But did it have FPS games with good vehicle usage, shield regeneration, meele combat and a two weapons system?

Halo did more than just proove that consoles are good for FPS...

[QUOTE="WhySoLimp"]

[QUOTE="andmcq"]

Halo did nothing for PC gaming. All it was, was an epic FPS with a good story some great music, it proved that the Xbox was suited to FPS games and it was all played on the most graphically capable console of the time. That's what made Halo so good, but PC games had been better before and after the arrival of Halo.

nameless12345

Yeah, TC meant what's the best console FPS before Halo. You're right though, PC hands down always had the better FPS games.

But did it have FPS games with good vehicle usage, shield regeneration, meele combat and a two weapons system?

Halo did more than just proove that consoles are good for FPS...

"good vehicle usage"

Tribes 2

"shield regeneration"

I don't think this was seen before Halo, but I don't think that's a bad thing :p

"melee combat"

Not sure what you mean, but nearly every FPS has melee attacks.

"two weapons system"

Rise of the Triad, but it limited you to 4 weapons: 3 that shoot bullets and either 1 magic or 1 missile weapon.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="WhySoLimp"]

Yeah, TC meant what's the best console FPS before Halo. You're right though, PC hands down always had the better FPS games.

WhySoLimp

But did it have FPS games with good vehicle usage, shield regeneration, meele combat and a two weapons system?

Halo did more than just proove that consoles are good for FPS...

"good vehicle usage"

Tribes 2

"shield regeneration"

I don't think this was seen before Halo, but I don't think that's a bad thing :p

"melee combat"

Not sure what you mean, but nearly every FPS has melee attacks.

"two weapons system"

Rise of the Triad, but it limited you to 4 weapons: 3 that shoot bullets and either 1 magic or 1 missile weapon.

Rainbow Six, Rogue Spear, Ghost Recon, and Counter-Strike limit you to one primary and one secondary firearm.

[QUOTE="WhySoLimp"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

But did it have FPS games with good vehicle usage, shield regeneration, meele combat and a two weapons system?

Halo did more than just proove that consoles are good for FPS...

SonOfChewbacca

"good vehicle usage"

Tribes 2

"shield regeneration"

I don't think this was seen before Halo, but I don't think that's a bad thing :p

"melee combat"

Not sure what you mean, but nearly every FPS has melee attacks.

"two weapons system"

Rise of the Triad, but it limited you to 4 weapons: 3 that shoot bullets and either 1 magic or 1 missile weapon.

Rainbow Six, Rogue Spear, Ghost Recon, and Counter-Strike limit you to one primary and one secondary firearm.

First three are tactical shooters, not your typical FPS.