Am scared for Red Dead Redemption 2

I'm pretty sure that they aren't going to have micro in campaign, online though they probably will because people pay, if people didn't they wouldn't do it. I'm not going to play RDR2 for MP anyway so I'm not scared at all

I'm not worried about the SP and as far as MP I wouldn't be playing it. I refuse to pay for online if I want to play a MP game I'll play it on PC.

As long as the SP is as good as the previous title, I'm good. I couldn't care less about MP.

As long as there's a solid single player campaign I'll be happy. After a brief stint with GTAO I stopped playing it and probably wont touch RDRO, so I don't really care what they do with that portion of the game.

I am already noticing a certain response type when it comes to the microtransactions with SP and MP modes. I too am with those who state they could care less what they decide to do with the MP modes because I as well will NOT be playing it for the MP modes. I thoroughly enjoyed the story from the first one and hope they put a lot of focus into the SP mode.

@altron67 Rockstar have a pretty good success record for its huge market (sandbox shooter fans).

So long as they keep them happy, maintain the Rockstar charm, and produce the game at high production value? I really don't think fans will care; even if the shooting, level design, and riding are so-so. . . And yes, even if it's less catered to the Story mode. Fans will call it "the best game of all time" just you watch. Rockstar have a charm-of-gameplay and immersion few dislike_

Even though Grand Theft Auto V focused on the multiplayer side of things after launch, no one can question how successful a game it is. And equally what they get right, which is what these fans are happy with. Rockstar know the audience they cater for, and have done for a long time now.

This is coming from someone who hasn't clicked with a Rockstar game since Bully, and likely one of the rare few who has never owned a copy of GTAV in these Forums :P

I fully expect Take Two to milk it for all it's worth.

I also expect Rockstar to come up with a good single player campaign.

...but yeah I expect the equivalent to GTA Online and no additional single player content.

@RSM-HQ: I also don't own that game.

A rare sight to behold.

Micro transactions are hella overblown honestly, as long as they don’t affect gameplay is really is that big a deal

While we can all agree Grand Theft Auto V was successful, it was the first Rockstar game in well over a decade that didn't add a Single-Player expansion. So really those micro transactions did in-fact affect gameplay.

Even if you enjoy a game you should acknowledge its weaknesses; and GTAV took a different trend to increase profitability not to enhance your gaming experience.

Red dead 2 won't sell anywhere near GTA 5 numbers but will sell incredibly well. I have hope rockstar will deliver even though it's a sequel.

@RSM-HQ: fair points, rockstar give us so much free content to though a lot more then a single player expansion would. It’s up to the players to not buy virtual currency with real life money, it’s not like shadow of war where you had to buy orcs if you didn’t want to grind for hours to beat the game

I'm not all worried about RDR2 because I Won't be buying the game!

I would rather single player expansions rather than multiplayer. You know it will have a battle royale mode that's a given. Undead nightmare was excellent for the original.

@swaggedoutsquirtle:

it’s not like shadow of war where you had to buy orcs if you didn’t want to grind for hours to beat the game

If we're in the debate on Rockstar Games being less greedy than Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment? I fully agree.

But you've also admittedly set the bar very low, comparing Rockstar business model to a publisher that added loot-boxes to a Single-Player game, even added DLC of a deceased Dev member. . .

Not to even mention what WB does with NetherRealm studios for micro transactions. Only company I can think that does it worse than WB, is EA.

It really shouldn’t matter who does it though if it’s an AAA game. GTA online is constantly giving free content the model of GTA online isn’t based on micro transactions it’s on the content, the extra stuff is for the lazy ones who want everything now. As for the single player dlc, we wouldn’t have gotten close to enough content as we did in GTA online so it could have ultimately been a good thing. Don’t get me wrong though I don’t think micro transactions in games are a good thing it’s just that if it doesn’t affect the actual gameplay and how you progress then it isn’t as big a deal.

On another note will RDR2 even have mp?

I have no worries that the main campaign won't be at least decent but I do kind of worry that they'll end up putting all the focus on Multiplayer after launch, like GTA5. I've read a few comments about an unused horse race track in GTA5, that people were saying would have had another heist.

I'm not too worried that it won't have a great SP. I won't hold my breath for any meaningful SP DLC this time, however. I know the online will be their main focus post-launch and I don't really want much to do with it.

They did increase my gaming experience. I enjoy the online more than I do the story mode. This game has kept the online content coming and kept me and my group of friends playing since its release. It all depends on your point of view.

@heathen75: I get the view point you're aiming for. However it wasn't really relevant to what you quoted me on.

Multiplayer and the adding of constant micro transactions, though connected, are separate features in the game respectfully.

To be honest all that really told us is you like playing games online with your friends, and less that GTA Vs dip into micro transactions was a good thing.

Though as my post explained, we can all agree it was the right decision from a profitability standpoint, from a gameplay standpoint? Most certainly affected it heavily seeing as it's the first Rockstar game in a long time to not have a huge expansion

And yes. Gaming with friends is great, I do it all the time, but nothing to do with what I posted in the slightest.

Any gaming experience can be more fun with a friend or a handful I do agree, even mediocre ones.

Yet it's not like your options began or ended with Grand Theft Auto V as an online experience anyway fyi

i play only SP on RDR2 i excited and hyped so much

Not worried since anything Rockstar puts out tends to be single player focused and free of microtransactions to that end. The issue is when you give us a bs campaign, then proceed to copy and paste a multiplayer together from the last game and flood the experience with lootboxes. That's not R*'s style

My only gripe with rockstar is they stopped the SP expansions in their games. But you can't complain with the content and effort they put out overall. What I like is they delay to iron out problems and finish the game properly and don't just put it out and patch it later like a number of Devs.

Am not worried in the least.

I won't be playing this game for the mp; if there are some kind of micro-transactions in the campaign I'll just ignore them.

@RSM-HQ: Micro trans are a good thing in my opinion. The success of the micro trans has allowed Rockstar to add all this extra content that I don't have to pay for. They have made the people like me who don't mind the grind happy, as well as the people who like to take shortcuts, making their game the huge success that it is. The people still hung up on the single player game is a very small percentage compared to the people who play online. Better business sense to concentrate on the online. Who said all we play is GTA? You know what they say about assuming? All I said was that we have continued to play it since its release. If you're not a fan of the micro trans, that's fine, but to say it doesn't enhance the gameplay experience is just your salty opinion as most people prefer the multiplayer, which is what they enhanced.

We will have to agree to disagree.

Only thing I see it being good to is the people making money from cheap cosmetics, that take next to no effort in being added towards these modes compared to an expansion. It's a cheap and lazy way to get more money out a game.

I understand it from a business sense, but from a Gamers perspective it's disgusting. Before the crave of loot boxes and horse armor we got free content known as 'game unlocks'.

I'm worried about RDR 2 as well but for different reasons.

This is the first major Rockstar release since GTA III without Leslie Benzies behind the scenes. Benzies is famous for pulling the team and the resources together for a Godzilla-like prototype that later became GTA III and pulling Red Dead Redemption out of development quagmire after development quagmire.

Every Red Dead 2 trailer while beautiful, also marks the first time ever in an open world Rockstar release to feature a completely forgettable main character who's devoid of any and all charisma. I hope this isn't a symptom of Benzies' absence and isn't a hint of many and more disappointments to come.

I'm a huge fan of the Online as well. After ignoring it for a couple of years, I recently started engaging in it with a group of friends and we're having a blast.

Folks don't give it enough credit for being the best non-subscription based crime mmo ever made.

@RSM-HQ: I don't own GTA V either. I've just played it like a million times at other peoples houses lol. I'm not worried about RDR2 in the least bit, though. I know it will be great.

why?

Rockstar is not your lover, you are not married to them, its not your child, 'worried about Rockstar'

for once I would like to see gamers just focus on game play

I’m not worried about Red Dead Redemption 2 myself. I had a great time with Grand Theft Auto V and didn’t spend a dime beyond the initial game purchase. I’m sure Rockstar will handle RDR2 the same way.

I have 100% faith in rockstar I can't remember the last time they made a bad game.

GTA 4 is on my top 5 'worst games I ever bought' list

It wasn't their best and the expansions were better than the base game but it wasn't a bad game in my opinion. Each to their own.

All I ask is for a solid campaign with no microtransactions, tbh. Online I don't care, it seems that having microtransactions now is the standard though lol

That's only for online. The offline campaign is still microtransaction free in GTA V. If it's like that, then I'm not worried in the slightest.

Now that's clever gaming, I did that with a friends PSP for years.

They're gonna have a good campaign and a good MP

If microtransactions and DLC are your only concerns for RDR2, I think you'll be ok.

@RSM-HQ: I'm a little fed up with their formula. I'd like to see them try to make a new IP or something. I acknowledge that it's a good game but I don't feel it's worth the purchase to me. That's why I have such high hopes for RDR2 because I loved the first game. It's like GTA but way different due to things like hunting and horseback riding. I also felt like the story was better than GTA games too especially the ending, though

@valgaav_219:

I'd like to see them try to make a new IP or something

I fully agree, however keep in mind Rockstar did try many different things during the 128-bit generation; yet both the gaming media and GTA fanbase gave these games negative coverage and average or below reviews.

Manhunt was claimed to possess a student to kill his friend in a horrible backlash, which later was proven to be Grand Theft Auto III, once the truth was found out the entire case was dropped simply because GTA is a beloved game. Same with Bully, which despite the name does not encourage bullying,the media and many reviews dubbed it a Bullying Simulator. Many reviews for this claim stating they should stick to making GTA. Which isn't as "serious" with its themes.

All this negative media and poor reviews refrained Rockstar to dip outside the popular sandbox template, despite having the same level of dark humor.

At this state I think Rockstar are just giving people (most the market, no means everyone) what they want. And do so partly out of fear of what they've encountered with Manhunt and Bully. And to be honest I don't blame them; they've tried being creative outside usual sandbox gangsta games, and got shunned for it.

To put it in a more basic level, Rockstar fans (for the most part) are hypocrites. And the vocal bunch of these fans are the reason Rockstar make the same kind of games.

@RSM-HQ: At this point I view GTA as being just as copied and pasted as CoD and I won't be buying either one of them.

Only bought one from both franchises, and neither investment from the past decade, so I'm with you on that.

However for me it's less that they're following the same template; and more because I don't find either interesting as a gaming series.