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The original question proposed

"So, I was pondering. What PC exclusive within the last 5 years has created a new standard for graphics in games? If PCs are being held back by consoles mainly due to multi-platform games then the PC exclusive would remain untouched by the "peasantry" of consoles allowing the graphic powerhouse of the PC to easily surpass anything that console exclusives has generated. So, what are these games?"

The reason giving for closing the thread

"3 pages of the TC acting in complete denial of all evidence that contradicts his opening statement. This farce of a troll post has gone on long enough."

There were specifically one poster that stated a point that was not relevant to the topic at hand and to which a miscommunication between what was being discussed to what was being said. This miscommunication fed give key posters enough ammo to side track from the initial topic. There was no evidence from these posters that contradicted the opening statement. In fact there was an actual discussion with the non disruptive members. Needless to say that I think the thread was locked unjustly especially if we are going by the gold standard.

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As @AdobeArtist was the acting moderator, I'm calling his attention to this thread for further clarification.

I've been over this already in the PM discussion I had with Pedro.. Most of the responses were valid and constructive counter arguments to the opening statement, that is to say solid visual evidence of PC titles that clearly demonstrate graphics fidelity at a very high standard.

Yet despite this evidence Pedro, you repeatedly deflected the counter arguments with equivocation (ie. goal post moving) to find some disingenuous criteria to invalidate the arguments presented to challenge your assertions. In our PM dialogue, you claim that the responders were "derailing" your topic with irrelevant replies. Sorry to say, but just because you don't like how it challenges your opening statement, does not make it "derailing" or "sidetracking" as you put it. If a poster were spamming Spiderman or Zoidberg memes in response, that would have been a derailment.

But a majority of the replies were in fact direct responses to the very topic you established your thread on, they were submitting valid examples of PC game graphics. But again, you found one shifty basis or another to dismiss them. And this btw, is coming from a PS4 gamer (previously X360), not a PC gamer myself. But even I can plainly see the incredible visuals being presented in response to your initial query.

You claim to have asked a question in earnest, yet with all the times I saw your equivocations to dismiss the replies that were very much on topic, makes me question the sincerity with which you approached said question. Rather it looks more and more like you had already drawn your conclusion and no evidence would ever satisfy your criteria. This "bias confirmation" does not cultivate a genuine discussion for the boards - not if it leads to going in circles of "here's some evidence/point" only to be replied with "nope, that is unacceptable" and against all reasonable parameters.

Basically, ruled as a disingenuous topic that didn't appear to be geared towards genuine discussion, so I locked it. While those bullet points serve as a general baseline for threads that will be locked, they can't anticipate all possible threads that might be disruptive. There is the moderator discretion to cut off any thread that is seen to not be conducive to discussion.

And as the thread in question is linked in the OP here, any mod can examine to see the replies, and Pedro's responses to those replies.

Adobe with all due respect I believe your Moderator Discretion was was not reasonable thus the reason we are here. The very nature of your response already has a predetermined slant of my intentions and was also exhibited in the reasoning for closing the thread.

The subject that was presented is something than can be discussed and the evidence you reference to counter my initial point does not create facts. Graphics being impressive is subjective and you are treating it as something that is objective and cannot be disputed or discussed. You are claiming that I was goal post moving when the criteria for the games were clearly stated and posters were referencing subject matters that were not applicable. Even the applicable ones are debatable and you are taking the stance that it cannot be debated and there was no room for discussion.

As I have mentioned in my PM there were meaningful discussion with other members in the thread and if it was a troll thread; as you stated at the closing of the thread, I would not be engaging anyone in a meaningful discussion but those meaningful discussions were ignored in your evaluation even now. I even looked for better images of suggested games specifically Arma III, so its rather strange to conclude I was trolling and pretending to create a discussion. I actively decided I was no longer going to engage the particularly hostile responses that I was receiving from the other members in the thread and the thread was finally heading in a direction that was intended.

Sorry, but your discussion was anything but meaningful. Meaningful would imply the conversation was moving forward in a constructive fashion. Instead we have you running the topic in circles, denying all counter arguments with irrational loop holes and disingenuous criteria (moving those goal posts), or just plain denial of the merit of the evidence presented. From what I read I just cannot believe your intents towards meaningful conversation is genuine, and yes it really does come across as trolling.